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看你唧唧歪歪的一副冷枪炮的样子,回答你。首先政策才改,人家怎么会知道。其次,即使没改之前,有的Gifted的班里会有一个两个,随时有一个专业人员跟着的。行了么?
吆喝,你还一副不耐烦的样子?你至于么? :monster: 我问你了么?:D
你要知道渥太华这华人圈,第一哪家没有政府工?:D第二哪家没有Gifted小孩? :evil: 明白过来的马甲们谁有工夫瞎嘚吧?
我们即使有好奇也是好奇其中行为异常的另类,我给你讲讲我亲眼见过两个,一个老外是上课永久保持打算盘的手势,另一个是老师准备一个齐腰高的健身球放教室后面,小孩椅子上永远坐不住。你这专业人员跟着的还是很罕见啊。:monster:
你接着不耐烦啊,真的没人在乎行不行的。:monster::monster:
 
据我家小情报员反映,现在班上同学们都挺好相处的,目前没见到明显的异类。
但是据我所观察真的有异类。
1.一斯里兰卡家庭的孩子(老二),三年级时原本在baseline那边跟我儿子同学,也是好朋友。家里父母都忙,没人好好辅导他们功课的,家里五口人挤在两居室的condo里。三年级那年老师推荐他和我儿子去考试,但由于我家正遇上搬家转学校错过了,他家老二那年考上了。后来我儿子考上后,他们俩又在gifted班上重逢了,根据我儿子的情报。我觉得那孩子接受能力真的很强,属于天生真聪明,我感觉属于异类,不服不行!
2.有感觉行为异类的,但不在一个班。但我个人觉得那是属于家教有问题,导致行为异类。
3.其实普通班也有另类的呀,以前他班上四年级时转来了位一直没上过学,长期待在家里,父母教的那种学生。那时真是很多时候都跟一般人反应不一样,以至于很长时间孩子们天天回来以这位新同学为话题。但是老师和家长都以宽容、理解的心态来引导自己孩子接受并帮助那位同学。
4. 其实也许我家的就是另类!那我也不在乎,活着就是活个真的自己。
这个叫“行为异常”啊? 那我理解偏了。:D
 
对毫无意义的冷言酸语你还很耐心,赞

你知道这些人为什么“冷言酸语”吗?这些人很可能都是过来人。你的有些概念,不是很清楚。

Special Education 有很多programs:

Autism Spectrum Disorder Secondary Credit Support Program (ASP)
Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD)
Behaviour Intervention Program (BIP)
Blind/Low Vision – Integrated Program (B/LV)
Deaf/Hard of Hearing Program (D/HH)
Developmental Disabilities Program (DD)
Dual Support Program (DSP)
General Learning Program (GLP)
Gifted Program (Gifted)
Language Learning Disabilities Program (LLD)
Learning Disability Program (LD)
Physical Support Program (PSP)
Primary Special Needs (PSN)

据我几个孩子的经验,行为有问题的孩子,是不和Gifted Program的孩子在同一个教室一起上课的。
 
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你知道这些人为什么“冷言酸语”吗?这些人很可能都是过来人。你的有些概念,不是很清楚。

Special Education 有很多programs:

Autism Spectrum Disorder Secondary Credit Support Program (ASP)
Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD)
Behaviour Intervention Program (BIP)
Blind/Low Vision – Integrated Program (B/LV)
Deaf/Hard of Hearing Program (D/HH)
Developmental Disabilities Program (DD)
Dual Support Program (DSP)
General Learning Program (GLP)
Gifted Program (Gifted)
Language Learning Disabilities Program (LLD)
Learning Disability Program (LD)
Physical Support Program (PSP)
Primary Special Needs (PSN)

据我几个孩子的经验,行为有问题的孩子,是不和Gifted Program的孩子在同一个教室一起上课的。
懂了,这里老ID,都是过来人,家家有天才政府工,所以有资格冷言酸语。新ID都概念不清。虽然您列的以上网站上的列表我并不能一个个背下来,如果你以为连特殊教育和旗下的Gifted 都分不清,您大约还真把ID注册时间和概念成正比了。
 
吆喝,你还一副不耐烦的样子?你至于么? :monster: 我问你了么?:D
你要知道渥太华这华人圈,第一哪家没有政府工?:D第二哪家没有Gifted小孩? :evil: 明白过来的马甲们谁有工夫瞎嘚吧?
我们即使有好奇也是好奇其中行为异常的另类,我给你讲讲我亲眼见过两个,一个老外是上课永久保持打算盘的手势,另一个是老师准备一个齐腰高的健身球放教室后面,小孩椅子上永远坐不住。你这专业人员跟着的还是很罕见啊。:monster:
你接着不耐烦啊,真的没人在乎行不行的。:monster::monster:
您就是在这里玩得时间长,论坛老革命,因此产生的误区,哈哈,以为自己啥都懂啦,看见人问问题就不屑一顾,是不是。拜托,你真代表不了渥太华上万华人家庭。:p
 
您就是在这里玩得时间长,论坛老革命,因此产生的误区,哈哈,以为自己啥都懂啦,看见人问问题就不屑一顾,是不是。拜托,你真代表不了渥太华上万华人家庭。:p
吼吼吼,你家别不是有行为异常的孩子吧? :D:D
本来楼主问GIFTED小孩的EFI和校车,你歪到对行为要纠正的孩子。
从去年起,这个program 的标准变了。好像更是针对行为要纠正的孩子。不过,我没仔细看,不能十分确定,还是自己去好好查查吧。
b4w纳闷,gifted program为什么要行为纠正,你引出了Behavioral intervention。也不去计较你的中文翻译了。:D
Behavioral intervention
13楼cgi把二者关系讲的很清楚,你说不影响已有的,你听说,只听了一耳朵。:D 不回答楼主就算了,还歪楼展示自己不很懂的特长?
是两个不同的。但Gifted 的入门标准2015年做了大变动,本来想仔细看看呢那时候,后来说不影响已有的,就没看,耳听了一点。
挺离谱,挺有趣的是这句,成绩都够,行为纠正的优先? 难道gifted program里有Behavioral intervention的孩子?:monster::monster: 你真的完全无法区分二者啊?
对的。就是说两个孩子成绩都够标准,只能取一的话,就取行为需要纠正的。
一般的中国人真的对Behavioral intervention一无所知,可直觉和gifted不沾边吧?:D 我特意问了一下小火星,可见她45楼完全不懂什么是Behavioral intervention,她说的是行为异类。
48楼cgi把事情都给你列清楚了,Behaviour Intervention Program (BIP)是异于Gifted另一个特殊教育BIP,给你看看什么是BIP,能跟gifted孩子一样成绩都够么? 标准一样么?:D:D
http://www.ocdsb.ca/programs/se/sepr/Pages/BehaviourInterventionProgram(BIP).aspx
那个教育局经费短缺,总想省钱,除gifted以外别的都是不能动的,所以年年喊改革,无非是home school的IEP,没啥大惊小怪的啊。。。你引的那段不就是有ABC死扛着呢么? :evil:
别拜了,我是盐吃多了咸得回你贴,真不打算代表你啊。:D
 
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吼吼吼,你家别不是有行为异常的孩子吧? :D:D
本来楼主问GIFTED小孩的EFI和校车,你歪到对行为要纠正的孩子。

b4w纳闷,gifted program为什么要行为纠正,你引出了Behavioral intervention。也不去计较你的中文翻译了。:D

13楼cgi把二者关系讲的很清楚,你说不影响已有的,你听说,只听了一耳朵。:D 不回答楼主就算了,还歪楼展示自己不很懂的特长?

挺离谱,挺有趣的是这句,成绩都够,行为纠正的优先? 难道gifted program里有Behavioral intervention的孩子?:monster::monster: 你真的完全无法区分二者啊?

一般的中国人真的对Behavioral intervention一无所知,可直觉和gifted不沾边吧?:D 我特意问了一下小火星,可见她45楼完全不懂什么是Behavioral intervention,她说的是行为异类。
48楼cgi把事情都给你列清楚了,Behaviour Intervention Program (BIP)是异于Gifted另一个特殊教育BIP,给你看看什么是BIP,能跟gifted孩子一样成绩都够么? 标准一样么?:D:D
http://www.ocdsb.ca/programs/se/sepr/Pages/BehaviourInterventionProgram(BIP).aspx
那个教育局经费短缺,总想省钱,除gifted以外别的都是不能动的,所以年年喊改革,无非是home school的IEP,没啥大惊小怪的啊。。。你引的那段不就是有ABC死扛着呢么? :evil:
别拜了,我是盐吃多了咸得回你贴,真不打算代表你啊。:D
我靠九哥,你ABC Ottawa工作的吧,太门清了。。
不过knowhow说的也没错,去年开始除了智力一个profile,还加了学业和行为两个profiles,.跟往年略有不同。。但是执行起来还是看学校的LST。。总之就是教育局没钱,gifted属于special needs,彻底砍了不敢,只好让home school给拦截一下。。
 
讨论孩子的事。大家各让一步。安生傻逼教委把一个好好的天才班搞到大家分不清楚天才还是特需。

故意混淆概念的结果。曾经很明确的体系。洋人多数到时不在乎。华人聪明孩子多。是需要辩论清楚的。

但是矛头只需对准操蛋的安生教育系统。
 
Gifted grogram我理解就是特需班,这样翻译才贴切,才符合开设这种班的真实意图。
无奈人们喜欢美化一些字眼,取悦大家。你不可能取名--"行为异常矫正班",就像在加拿大有教养的人不会直接叫人家残疾人,弱智.......这是一个道理。
行为异常的,需要老师对症下药,给予更多关照,用特殊教育方法。
智力发育超前的,需要老师教授相应更深一些新知识的,否则学生在普通版厌学,注意力不容易集中。普通班的老师很难兼顾学习进度最靠前与排最后的孩子,于是部分分流。
 
走错教室了
天才爹妈这都行为异常窝里斗上了:rolleyes:
还是天生好斗之才:evil:
这典型的天才班家长打仗,:oops:俺们围观不下去了插一句:shy:,没别的意思:p,各位尽兴,:D大过年的一定要耍尽兴,哈:jiayou:
 
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Gifted grogram我理解就是特需班,这样翻译才贴切,才符合开设这种班的真实意图。
无奈人们喜欢美化一些字眼,取悦大家。你不可能取名--"行为异常矫正班",就像在加拿大有教养的人不会直接叫人家残疾人,弱智.......这是一个道理。
行为异常的,需要老师对症下药,给予更多关照,用特殊教育方法。
智力发育超前的,需要老师教授相应更深一些新知识的,否则学生在普通版厌学,注意力不容易集中。普通班的老师很难兼顾学习进度最靠前与排最后的孩子,于是部分分流。

教育局对Gifted Program定义:



再说一遍,Special Education 有很多programs, ,Gifted Program 和 Behaviour Intervention Program 是其中两个,Gifted Program 和Behaviour Intervention Program 也不在一起上课。


Autism Spectrum Disorder Secondary Credit Support Program (ASP)
Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD)
Behaviour Intervention Program (BIP)
Blind/Low Vision – Integrated Program (B/LV)
Deaf/Hard of Hearing Program (D/HH)
Developmental Disabilities Program (DD)
Dual Support Program (DSP)
General Learning Program (GLP)
Gifted Program (Gifted)
Language Learning Disabilities Program (LLD)
Learning Disability Program (LD)
Physical Support Program (PSP)
Primary Special Needs (PSN)
 
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Gifted Program (Gifted)

OCDSB > Programs > Special Education > Special Education Programs

Special Education Service Delivery Model in the OCDSB: A Guide for Parents Of Students With Giftedness
Description

The Ministry of Education currently describes the exceptionality of Giftedness as:
an unusually advanced degree of general intellectual ability that requires differentiated learning experiences of a depth and breadth beyond those normally provided in the regular school program to satisfy the level of educational potential indicated.
The OCDSB supports students with giftedness in a variety of ways including in a regular class environment or a specialized program class environment. These students may have some of the following characteristics: the mastery of new skills and concepts quickly; advanced vocabulary; superior judgment and reasoning abilities; strong sense of ethics and values; original, flexible and fluent thinking. The OCDSB Gifted specialized program classes are for those students who, in addition to targeted Tier 1, 2, and 3 interventions, would still benefit from a specialized program class.
Here Is What We Do To Support Students with Giftedness (Tiered Intervention Approach)
There is no specific time requirement for each intervention; the length of time an intervention should be tried is dependent on the individual strengths and needs of the learner. Which interventions are tried also depend on the individual strengths and needs of the learner; there is no one-size that fits all.
School Based Support (Tiered Intervention) MAY include but not limited to:
·Classroom Teacher
·Learning Support Teacher
·Learning Resource Teacher
·Principal/Vice Principal
·Educational Assistant
·Early Childhood Educator
·ESL Teacher
·Multi-Disciplinary Team (Psychologist, Speech/Language Pathologist, Social Worker, etc.)
·Parent(s)/guardian(s)
Classroom based supports (Tier One Interventions) for students with Giftedness in the regular classroom MAY include but not limited to:
·Identification of strengths and needs
·Classroom observation and tracking
·Parent/guardian consultation/feedback
·Classroom assessments
·Differentiation of instruction, environment and/or assessment (e.g. ability grouping, visual supports, use of assistive technology)
School based supports (Tier Two Interventions) for students with Giftedness MAY include but not limited to:
·In-School Team Meeting Referral
·Targeted, precise specific instruction to adhere to need (e.g. Critical and Creative thinking tasks)
·Development of Individual Education Plan (IEP)
·Educational Assessment (e.g. WIAT III)
·Specific differentiated supports in place for areas of strength and need (e.g. tasks based on increased depth and breadth, social skills building activities, leadership opportunities, organizational skill building)
·Continued parent/guardian consultation
·Consultation with other departments (i.e. Curriculum Services, Business and Learning Technologies, Facilities and Planning)
Other school based supports (Tier Three Interventions) for students with Giftedness MAY include but not limited to:
·Cognitive Assessment (e.g. CCAT , WISC-IV/V)
·Counseling (social emotional support as needed)
·Continued development of IEP
·Parent/guardian consultation/feedback
·Multi-Disciplinary Meeting/ Updated action plan (e.g. type of assessments used; use of technology; SEA application; further opportunities to work with other gifted/highly talented learners; student-centered project based learning opportunities; intensive school-based support strategies; specialized program class referral)
Identification as a Student with an Exceptionality of Giftedness VS Eligibility for a Specialized Program Class – Gifted Program
Students may be Identified with an exceptionality of Giftedness and not placed into a Gifted Program specialized program class. In these cases the student would receive in-class support in the regular class setting.
Criteria for Specialized Program Class: Gifted Program
Specialized Program Classes Available

English Grades 1-12
Early French Immersion Grades 5-12
Class Sizes
Grades 1-3, 20 students per class
Grade 3/4 split, 23 students per class
Grades 4-8, 25 students per class
Assessments, Documentation, and Student Profile for Referral
Cognitive Assessment

To ensure best practice, current psychological assessment (within the last 2 years) or verification from a psychologist/psychological associate that an assessment completed more than two years ago continues to be valid is required. The OCDSB will prioritize assessment, for students being considered for a referral to specialized program classes for the following school year, based on need by the multi-disciplinary team and parent consultation. We support this process internally. Any of the following Assessments may be used:
·CCAT (Canadian Cognitive Abilities Test)
·WPPSI-IV (Wechsler Preschool and Primary Scale of Intelligence, fourth edition),
·WISC-IV/WISC V (Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children, fourth or fifth edition) ,
·Stanford-Binet
Criteria:
Primary, (Grades 1-4)

·CCAT: Scores at the 99th percentile on two of the three scales (one must be Verbal) and at least 90th on the third.
·WPPSI/WISC: Full scale or GAI (General Ability Index) or Verbal Index (composed of at least 3 Verbal Reasoning Subtests) at or above 99.6th percentile.
Junior/Intermediate (Grades 5-8)
·CCAT: Scores at the 98th percentile on two of the three scales and at least 90th on the third.
·WPPSI/WISC: Full scale or GAI or Verbal Index (composed of at least 3 Verbal Reasoning Subtests) at or above 98th percentile; alternatively a score at the 98th percentile or above in the Perceptual Reasoning (composed of 3 Perceptual Reasoning subtests scores) accompanied by at least a score at the 95th percentile on the Verbal Reasoning Index (composed of 3 Verbal Reasoning subtests).
Secondary (Grades 9-12)
·For OCDSB students, our LST’s (Learning Support Teachers) for Grade 8 support the referral process into a secondary specialized gifted program class. For outside applicants, your home gifted secondary school will support you directly in this process.
·All students who meet OCDSB gifted identification, as per the Gifted Screening and Identification Manual, are eligible.
Educational Assessment
To ensure best practice, current educational assessment (within the last 12 months) is required. Two subtests from the Wechsler Individual Achievement Test, third edition, (WIAT-III), reading comprehension and math problem solving, must be included in the referral. The educational assessment may be included in the psychological report. An educational assessment may be completed at your child’s school.
Criteria: There are no specific results criteria for any of the items within this section. The information is used to gather a fulsome picture of the student being referred.
Academic Profile
As cognitive ability does not always equate to academic achievement, additional educational information is required for a referral to a Gifted Program specialized program class. A students’ current report card and a current Individual Education Plan (IEP) are required in a referral.
Social/Behavioural Profile
There may be social and/or behavioural factors that warrant being explained as part of the referral process. This information is helpful to provide a fulsome picture of the learner. These social/behavioural observations may be within the classroom and/or at home and may include disengagement, low self-esteem to perfectionist characteristics. There are no specific social/behavioural characteristics needed in order to be referred to the Gifted Program specialized program class.
Additional Supporting Information
Additional information may be helpful to provide a fulsome picture of the student. This information may be relevant to the student’s needs and programming requirements. This may include a Social-Work Assessment, anecdotal reports, awards, extra-curricular interests, achievements, and/or any other evidence supporting a referral.
Note: The progress of a student in a specialized program class will be monitored regularly and reviewed through the Individual, Placement, and Review Committee (IPRC) process to ensure appropriate placement to support student learning needs.
Specialized Program Class Referral Process
Referral Process for the Gifted Program Specialized Program Class for OCDSB students

·Deadline for a referral to a Gifted Program specialized program class (for September placement) is determined by Learning Support Services (usually the beginning of April).
·OCDSB referrals are coordinated through the multi-disciplinary team at your child’s school.
·All questions relating to this process can be directed to your child’s current school.
·Referrals will be considered throughout the year (not only April) on a case by case basis. Once the gifted committee has confirmed that the student meets criteria, if space is available, an offer for placement may be made at that time.
Referral Process for the Gifted Program Specialized Program Class for non-OCDSB students
·Referral forms and information may be provided by the OCDSB Learning Support Consultant with the gifted portfolio.
·Please review OCDSB current criteria for our programs on the OCDSB website prior to requests for referral forms.
·Deadline for the referral to a Gifted Program specialized program class (for September placement) is the same as determined by Learning Support Services.
·Referrals will be considered throughout the year (not only April) on a case by case basis. Once the Gifted Program committee has confirmed that the student meets criteria, if space is available, an offer for placement may be made at that time.
·Referral documentation must be completed as a joint effort between parent(s)/guardian(s) and child’s current school.
·Preference for placement is given to current OCDSB students who meet criteria.
Other Information Regarding Referral Process for all students
·The committee begins reviewing referrals in April for placement in the following academic year. Referrals are not considered on a first-come, first-serve basis. Parent(s)/guardian(s) participate in this process, their input is required as part of a referral form.
·Those students who meet criteria will be placed dependent on availability and home address. All those who have met criteria and who have not been placed will remain on a wait list and will be placed throughout the year as spaces become available (wait lists do not carry over to the next academic year).
·Referrals may be submitted at any time throughout the year and will be reviewed by the gifted program committee upon their next meeting. At that time, if the student has met criteria, a placement may be offered, depending on availability.
·Once in a Gifted Program specialized program class, no further referrals are required to stay in the program each subsequent school year.
·Please note: further information can be provided to referrals through Learning Support Services (LSS) upon request.
Final Note:
We support learners in a variety of ways within the OCDSB. We recognize that each learner has their individual strengths and needs and that what works for one may not work for another within a similar profile. We allow external referrals to the specialized program classes and welcome students within the Ottawa area to consider any OCDSB school as we endeavor to support our learners, both within the regular class program and within a specialized program setting.
(http://www.ocdsb.ca/programs/se/sepr/Pages/GiftedProgram(Gifted).aspx)
 
吼吼吼,你家别不是有行为异常的孩子吧? :D:D
本来楼主问GIFTED小孩的EFI和校车,你歪到对行为要纠正的孩子。

b4w纳闷,gifted program为什么要行为纠正,你引出了Behavioral intervention。也不去计较你的中文翻译了。:D

13楼cgi把二者关系讲的很清楚,你说不影响已有的,你听说,只听了一耳朵。:D 不回答楼主就算了,还歪楼展示自己不很懂的特长?

挺离谱,挺有趣的是这句,成绩都够,行为纠正的优先? 难道gifted program里有Behavioral intervention的孩子?:monster::monster: 你真的完全无法区分二者啊?

一般的中国人真的对Behavioral intervention一无所知,可直觉和gifted不沾边吧?:D 我特意问了一下小火星,可见她45楼完全不懂什么是Behavioral intervention,她说的是行为异类。
48楼cgi把事情都给你列清楚了,Behaviour Intervention Program (BIP)是异于Gifted另一个特殊教育BIP,给你看看什么是BIP,能跟gifted孩子一样成绩都够么? 标准一样么?:D:D
http://www.ocdsb.ca/programs/se/sepr/Pages/BehaviourInterventionProgram(BIP).aspx
那个教育局经费短缺,总想省钱,除gifted以外别的都是不能动的,所以年年喊改革,无非是home school的IEP,没啥大惊小怪的啊。。。你引的那段不就是有ABC死扛着呢么? :evil:
别拜了,我是盐吃多了咸得回你贴,真不打算代表你啊。:D
斗嘴不要紧,你这就开始问候我家孩子了?人渣是不是?你既然开了头,就好办了。就不怕你这种渣人。你不但自己渣,你父母那肯定也渣啊,你孩子们那也不会和你差太远,一家渣人!版主不要说我骂人啊,是这个渣人先开头的。
 
看你唧唧歪歪的一副冷枪炮的样子,回答你。首先政策才改,人家怎么会知道。其次,即使没改之前,有的Gifted的班里会有一个两个,随时有一个专业人员跟着的。行了么?
拿电枪不?:o:o:o
 
拿电枪不?:eek::eek::eek:
不能多说啊,涉及到那孩子隐私吧,虽然是个老外孩子,不会到这里来。教育局真下本,一个大人专门陪着一个孩子。
 
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