美国总统选举: 几个州重新点票

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Trump files objection to Jill Stein-led election recount in Michigan

President-elect’s attorneys claim Stein is not entitled to a recount and describe Green party candidate’s actions as creating an ‘electoral farce’



Jill Stein described Trump’s move as an ‘attempt to undermine democracy’. Photograph: Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images
Thursday 1 December 2016 22.13 GMT

Donald Trump asked the state of Michigan on Thursday to reject Jill Stein’s request for a recount of the presidential election.

Attorneys for the US president-elect argued in a filing to Michigan election officials that Stein was not entitled to the recount and that it could not be completed in time before the state must cast its electoral college votes.

“Michigan should not grant this lawless, insulting request, and its voters should not risk having the Electoral College door knocked off its hinges, all because a one-percent candidate is dissatisfied with the election’s outcome,” Trump’s filing said.

Trump accused Stein of creating an “electoral farce” and claimed that she “aims to sow doubts regarding the legitimacy of the presidential election”.

Stein, who has also filed for recounts in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, described Trump’s move as an “attempt to undermine democracy” and assured supporters that the recount would go ahead.

“The Trump campaign’s cynical efforts to delay the recount and create unnecessary costs for taxpayers are shameful and outrageous,” Stein said in a statement.

Ruth Johnson, Michigan’s secretary of state, said in a statement that recounting, which was scheduled to begin on Friday and continue over the weekend, had been “put on hold” until the board of state canvassers had made a decision on Trump’s objection.

Stein’s recount requests were made to states where Trump narrowly defeated Hillary Clinton, who had led in opinion polls prior to election day. Stein acted on behalf of a coalition of election security experts, who are concerned that the electoral process could have been sabotaged by hackers.

The election took place following warnings from US intelligence agencies that Russian hackers were behind the thefts of emails from Democratic officials and had been intruding into the voter registration systems of several American states.

The Obama administration has said it is confident that no cyber-hacking interfered with election day and that the result was “the will of the American people”. A group of Democratic senators has, however, asked the president to declassify more information about Russia’s involvement in the US election process.
 
Stein calls Trump's recount objection 'shameful'
Dec. 1, 2016 4:45 PM EST





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LANSING, Mich. (AP) — The Latest on the presidential recount efforts in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin (all times local):

4:45 p.m.

Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein says President-elect Donald Trump's objection to her campaign's request to recount Michigan's presidential votes is "shameful and outrageous."

Stein response Thursday came after the Trump campaign filed an objection, delaying the planned Friday start of the recount.

Trump's attorneys say Stein, who finished fourth in Michigan, is not "aggrieved" by any alleged election fraud or mistake, that a recount couldn't be finished on time and that her petition wasn't properly signed. Trump says Stein is asking for an expensive, time-consuming recount "on the basis of nothing more than speculation."

Stein has also requested recounts in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, which began its recount on Thursday.

Michigan's elections board will consider Trump's objection on Friday. The recount now couldn't start until next week, at the earliest.

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3:30 p.m.

President-elect Donald Trump's campaign has filed an objection to Green Party candidate Jill Stein's request for a hand recount of Michigan's presidential election votes.

The objection filed Thursday will delay or block the recount, which the state was planning to begin Friday.

The Board of State Canvassers has scheduled a meeting Friday to hear arguments. The Michigan Bureau of Elections says the recount cannot begin until two business days after the four-member, bipartisan board resolves the objection.

Trump's attorneys say Stein, who finished fourth in Michigan, is not "aggrieved" by any alleged election fraud or mistake, that a recount couldn't be finished on time and that her petition wasn't properly signed. Trump says Stein is asking for an expensive, time-consuming recount "on the basis of nothing more than speculation."

Stein has also requested recounts in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, which began its recount on Thursday.

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10:30 a.m.

Observers representing Democrat Hillary Clinton, Republican Donald Trump and Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein are spread out throughout Wisconsin to watch as ballots are recounted.

Trump's Wisconsin campaign director Pete Meachum was in Madison on Thursday for the start of the recount. Meachum says the campaign had people in every major county across the state. Trump won Wisconsin by about 22,000 votes, or less than a percentage point.

Stein has raised questions about the integrity of votes cast in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan without presenting any proof of wrongdoing.

Stein said in a statement that "verifying the vote through this recount is the only way to confirm that every vote has been counted securely and accurately and is not compromised by machine or human error, or by tampering or hacking."

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9 a.m.

The recounting of the presidential election results in Wisconsin is underway. It's the first candidate-driven recount in the United States since Florida in 2000.

Green Party candidate Jill Stein requested the recount that started Thursday, even though she has no chance of picking up the roughly 1.3 million votes needed to win. Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton by about 22,000 votes in Wisconsin.

Stein says she wants a recount to ensure ballot tabulating machines were not compromised by hackers.

Workers in 72 counties across the state began recounting ballots at 9 a.m. They have until 8 p.m. Dec. 12 to finish.

In Madison, about 40 workers gathered in two conference rooms overflowing with sealed bags of ballots from across the county.

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8:40 a.m.

Vote counters, observers, reporters and curious onlookers are filling the hallway outside two large conference rooms in a downtown office building in Madison, Wisconsin, where a recount of the presidential race is about to begin.

Similar scenes are playing out across the state Thursday as the recount requested by Green Party candidate Jill Stein gets underway. All 72 counties were required to start by 9 a.m. They have less than two weeks to recount nearly 3 million ballots. The deadline to complete it is Dec. 13, but the state Elections Commission gave counties until 8 p.m. Dec. 12 to finish.

Dane County Clerk Scott McDonell walked down the hallway in Madison about an hour before the recount was to begin, bringing coffee for those about to begin the recount.

Stein has also requested recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan. Almost no one expects the recounts to result in a victory for Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton over President-elect Donald Trump.

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12:05 a.m.

The first candidate-driven statewide recount of a presidential election in 16 years is set to begin in Wisconsin.

The recount starting Thursday was requested by Green Party candidate Jill Stein. It carries none of the drama that Florida did in 2000, when the outcome of the election between Al Gore and George W. Bush hung in the balance.

Almost no one expects recounts this year to result in a Clinton victory.

But still, county election officials across Wisconsin were hiring temporary workers, expanding hours and dusting off recount manuals to prepare for the work of retabulating nearly 3 million ballots.

A recount was to begin Friday in Michigan and Stein is suing for a recount in Pennsylvania.
 
美国大选是interesting indeed!

特朗普和他的支持者们为什么试图阻止在那几个州重新点票呢?

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美国大选是interesting indeed!

特朗普和他的支持者们为什么试图阻止在那几个州重新点票呢?

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因为绿党要求手工点票,在12月14号选举人投票之前肯定不能完成。这样的话川普的46张选举人票成为争议票,他就只有260票,达不到270。
 
因为绿党要求手工点票,在12月14号选举人投票之前肯定不能完成。这样的话川普的46张选举人票成为争议票,他就只有260票,达不到270。


怎么能保证第二次比第一次精确呢?
票放在那里这么久,被人动手脚的机会更大吧?
 
因为绿党要求手工点票,在12月19号选举人投票之前肯定不能完成(重新计票的最后期限是12月13号)。这样的话川普的46张选举人票有可能成为争议票,他就只有260票,达不到当选需要的绝对多数270张选举人票。
 
因为绿党要求手工点票,在12月14号选举人投票之前肯定不能完成。这样的话川普的46张选举人票成为争议票,他就只有260票,达不到270。
如果我是床铺,这关过了的话,一定送洗那里蹲大牢。
 
如果我是床铺,这关过了的话,一定送洗那里蹲大牢。

这种技术性挑战不会阻挡老川当选,只是增加他当选的争议性。

从他昨天的Ohio的演讲看,尽管有许多草根支持者对希拉里不依不饶,他基本上是会放手以求和解。
 
从他昨天的Ohio的演讲看,尽管有许多草根支持者对希拉里不依不饶,他基本上是会放手以求和解。
办洗那里是为了震慑宵小。
 
办洗那里是为了震慑宵小。

这个代价会太大。他必须在1年内小有所成以应付中期选举;在3年内有显著成效以应付下次大选。另外选战后不再与对手纠缠也是美国很好的一个政治传统。
 
川普的这个感恩讲话真的不错。46:00开始。
 
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