这么大的事没人关心吗？马上就省选了，这时机

[GuardianAngel]

One of his accusers alleges he asked her for oral sex. the other was a former staffer who alleges he plied her with alcohol, took her to his bedroom and kissed her, his erection against her, until she protested and demanded he drive her home, whereupon he ceased and did just that.

就这两个指控吗? 这哥们儿栽的有点冤啊 ... ...

的确。这都算啥呀。
1st case, consensual

2nd case, don't what to say.
I don't like the hidden liberal Patrick Brown much anyway, so ... But it is really not fair for him.

 

[GuardianAngel]

如果你说的是misconduct。我不同意。左派右派都有放纵的，方向略有不一样。但是，左派的道德标准的确是低。道德与自由在很大程度上是对立的。自由（神父用别的词），我依然尊重左派，暂时接着用自由二字。道德的定义是约束。“一种社会意识形态。是调整人与人之间、个人与社会之间关系的行为规范的总和。如真诚与虚伪、善与恶、正义与非正义、公正与偏私等都属于道德范畴。”

再说，我跟明神有类似的观点，政治，总有观点，有观点就有雷同之处。但也有很多不同的观点，左派说不过了，一般就把我宗教那边推。左派几招，都领教过了。好像辩论对手一粘宗教，左派就赢了。这点我早就观察清楚，而且在CFC我反复说了N次了。唉。



那么brown misconduct是不是事儿。未经证实，我不清楚，所以没法聊。

有一件事儿是证实的，hijab谎言未经证实的，CBC，各级官员就上窜下跳，hijab hoax。这是证实的的。我说事儿，喜欢说那些证实的。

绕口令来了。未经证实的谎言被政客广为宣扬，证实为谎言之后，还拒不倒谦。未经证实的指控不用被证实就可以让一个政客毁灭，这是证实了的现实。

谢谢。在下不如左派各级首脑高，他们的智商那绝对的高。但是道德和绕口令还算凑合。

"有一件事儿是证实的，hijab谎言未经证实的，CBC，各级官员就上窜下跳，hijab hoax。这是证实的的。我说事儿，喜欢说那些证实的。

绕口令来了。未经证实的谎言被政客广为宣扬，证实为谎言之后，还拒不倒谦。未经证实的指控不用被证实就可以让一个政客毁灭，这是证实了的现实。"

现在的极左派，象土豆和Wynne 之流搞得我们这些本来的左派现在跟他们一比，都成了右派。

恶心。。真的，就是恶心

 

[GuardianAngel]

Christie Blatchford: What happened to Brown is fundamentally wrong. Every man in the world is now vulnerable
I can think of almost nothing that requires less fortitude than accusing someone else of wrongdoing when your own face, name and identity are hidden

For all the other moments #MeToo has wrought, the Patrick Brown story is seminal: A political leader is cut down like a sapling in the forest in a matter of hours, and none of his colleagues, in and outside of the Ontario Conservative party, and including the Ontario premier and the prime minister of Canada, have one word to say in the defence of fair play or the presumption of innocence.

This — not the anonymous allegations of Brown’s accusers from the shadows — is what is shocking and disgraceful about this story.

Kathleen Wynne spent nearly 18 minutes in front of the TV cameras at Queen’s Park Thursday. Only one journalist even bothered to ask her about due process.

“These are allegations. He’s not had a chance to defend himself. Are you in any way concerned there is a bit of a public trial going on and is that fair?” the reporter asked.

“Again, I’m not going to comment on the specifics of the situation,” Wynne replied. “I do think that it was brave for these young women to come forward. I think that it was a hard thing for them to do, but the point I’m making this morning is that — we always, there will always be due process and there should be due process and there is a legal process that has to be part of this…”

And then she went on to urge Ontarians to get out their “own little flashlights” to “shine a light” into their own lives and to work together to “create safe spaces for everyone” — you know, except for the accused.

As for the PM, from Davos, Justin Trudeau saluted the women “for their courage and their leadership.” Ahh, what a fine fellow he is: It wasn’t so long ago his heart went out to the little Toronto girl whose hijab had been cruelly slashed by a man in a hate crime. Er, wait.

Andrea Horwath, the leader of Ontario’s New Democrats, was predictably even less circumspect.

Saying she was “pretty disgusted” by the allegations, she too fielded a question about the dangers of a trial in the court of public opinion.

“I really have two words about the justice system: Jian Ghomeshi,” she said, and went on to say that the “justice system is failing women … so let’s not pretend that we have a justice system that’s actually protecting women and making sure that women see justice.”

News flash: The justice system isn’t meant to protect women, not to mention, not all of us need protecting.

And Ghomeshi was acquitted in a fair trial, with rules and order and an appeal process, and he was acquitted not because the system failed women, but because his accusers failed women: They variously lied, colluded with one another or failed to tell the truth to police and prosecutors.

Let it be perfectly clear.

The point is not what Brown allegedly did.

The point is not even Brown, though spare a minute for him, that poor, lonely castoff. No wonder he raced to hold that impromptu press conference Wednesday night; very likely, it will be the first and only opportunity he ever has to defend himself in public.

That his senior staff deserted him immediately is no reflection on the strength, or lack of it, of the allegations made against him. Political staff are the human equivalents of blowflies; they’re the first to recognize a corpse.

The point is that purely on the say-so of two women who claim he sexually assaulted them another prominent man has been ruined. One of his accusers alleges he asked her for oral sex (her words, according to Glen McGregor, the CTV reporter who broke the story Wednesday night), the other was a former staffer who alleges he plied her with alcohol, took her to his bedroom and kissed her, his erection against her, until she protested and demanded he drive her home, whereupon he ceased and did just that.

Whatever the merits of their accusations — and how is anyone to know? — the mere act of making them to a journalist was enough. This is all it takes now.

It means that every man in the world is vulnerable, not because he has necessarily misconducted himself, but because a woman may say he has. The truth of the alleged misconduct — did it happen? Were there mitigating circumstances? Does the accuser have motive to lie? — is incidental, if not irrelevant.

http://nationalpost.com/opinion/chr...rong-every-man-in-the-world-is-now-vulnerable

好文。

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As for the PM, from Davos, Justin Trudeau saluted the women “for their courage and their leadership.” Ahh, what a fine fellow he is: It wasn’t so long ago his heart went out to the little Toronto girl whose hijab had been cruelly slashed by a man in a hate crime. Er, wait."

 

[某某]

再来一篇
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/sta...e-if-patrick-brown-was-a-randy-womanizer.html

 

[asdfqwer]

Due process在政治游戏里就是个笑话。这边厢Patrick Brown自己死扛但架不住队友们集体撤退，他一个孤魂野鬼也不得不让位。那边厢却有有过之而无不及的一位，各种指责调查人家还是稳稳坐着世界第一强国的总统之位。有天理吗？

知情者肯定明白这绝不是空穴来风。而且Brown的两个控诉者都比他年轻许多，其中一个当年还未成年。细节也不利：他自己不喝酒却让小姑娘们喝，居心叵测啊！

PC这次别想了，就算能出现当年的奥巴马也没戏。Caroline Mulroney倒是可以出来捞点政治资本。

预测自由党连任，minority government，最终跟NDP结成同盟继续执政。此次PC重挫最大获益者将是Andrea Horwath。

 

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Due process在政治游戏里就是个笑话。这边厢Patrick Brown自己死扛但架不住队友们集体撤退，他一个孤魂野鬼也不得不让位。那边厢却有有过之而无不及的一位，各种指责调查人家还是稳稳坐着世界第一强国的总统之位。有天理吗？

知情者肯定明白这绝不是空穴来风。而且Brown的两个控诉者都比他年轻许多，其中一个当年还未成年。细节也不利：他自己不喝酒却让小姑娘们喝，居心叵测啊！

PC这次别想了，就算能出现当年的奥巴马也没戏。Caroline Mulroney倒是可以出来捞点政治资本。

预测自由党连任，minority government，最终跟NDP结成同盟继续执政。此次PC重挫最大获益者将是Andrea Horwath。

UltraViolet projected this message onto Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday.

The message called attention to allegations of sexual assault against Trump ahead of his State of the Union address.

 

[asdfqwer]

Stormy Daniels，床铺大叔花了13万堵嘴的porn star被Jimmy Kimmel问得哑口无言，还差点承认床铺的律师伪造了签名。

Stormy的叙述虽然不如当年斯塔大叔记录克林顿那么高潮迭起，也堪称有趣吧，自己看：http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/stormy-daniels-full-interview-151788

 

[uglyducking]

Stormy Daniels，床铺大叔花了13万堵嘴的porn star被Jimmy Kimmel问得哑口无言，还差点承认床铺的律师伪造了签名。

Stormy的叙述虽然不如当年斯塔大叔记录克林顿那么高潮迭起，也堪称有趣吧，自己看：http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/stormy-daniels-full-interview-151788

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她肯定是看上了窗破的玛尼，都红眼了

 

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