NAFTA谈成了

还有昨天那谁大侠告我的网购的免税限额的提高,加拿大消费者可能赢了,去美国购货多买点不交税,但是加拿大这边的网店经销商惨了。对加拿大经济来说,算赢了么?:D
新闻里用的duty。只是100刀以内不收duty,tax的界限理论上和原来一样,还是20(实际操作时本来100以下也不怎么收tax)。我还没被收过duty呢,只交tax。所以,没影响啊。
 
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The new deal, formally called the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, came together in the final hours before the deadline for Canada to come on board a renegotiated trilateral deal. Otherwise, Mexico and the U.S. were poised to push ahead without them on a bilateral agreement. It will replace the North American Free Trade Agreement once fully ratified.

The pair spent the morning briefing Canada’s premiers about the details of the deal which are still emerging after the announcement late Sunday night. The new agreement will have an impact across industries and regions of the country.

On Sunday, all three countries were heralding the agreement as a win-win-win, though reaction is pouring in from various industries and stakeholder groups, who have a mixed reaction to the news of a new agreement after nearly 14 months.

Trudeau touted it as a good deal for the Canadian economy, businesses, and families.

The prime minister is set to hold another cabinet meeting this afternoon. This will be the second cabinet meeting in less than 24 hours after Sunday night’s 10 p.m. gathering of the federal ministers when news began to break of a new deal on the table.

Trump trumpets fair deal

U.S. President Donald Trump, who triggered the NAFTA renegotiations, heralded the new USMCA as “a wonderful new trade deal.”

“Late last night, our deadline, we reached a wonderful new Trade Deal with Canada, to be added into the deal already reached with Mexico. The new name will be The United States Mexico Canada Agreement, or USMCA. It is a great deal for all three countries, solves the many deficiencies and mistakes in NAFTA,” Trump tweeted.

Speaking with reporters at the White House Rose Garden on Monday, Trump touted the benefits of the new agreement, as several high-profile members of his administration including U.S. Ambassador to Canada Kelly Craft and U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer clapped behind him.

Trump also referenced the drama that was laced throughout the negotiations, including what he called the “difficulty” between himself and Trudeau. At one point in the talks Trump called Trudeau “very dishonest and weak,” though now Trump seems hopeful the relationship is on the mend.

“The only problem with Justin is he loves his people and you know he’s fighting hard for his people,” Trump said. “This is good for everybody.”

The U.S. president called it the most important trade deal his administration has signed, and expressed satisfaction that the pact is a fair one. He also stated that if Canada did not open up its dairy market, it would have been a “deal breaker.”

Lighthizer also spoke, and thanked by name Freeland, as well as other senior officials including Trudeau’s top two aides: Gerald Butts and Katie Telford.

Monday morning, Trudeau spoke with both Trump and Mexican President Pena Nieto.

In both talks — according to the PMO readouts — Trudeau and his North American counterparts welcomed the deal, and stressed how the deal will bring the countries closer together and enhance North American competitiveness.

Trudeau described the call with Trump as “very positive.”

The leaders of all three countries are expected to convene before the end of November to sign the deal, which will allow the outgoing Nieto to sign the new agreement before his successor Andres Manuel Lopez Obrado takes office in December. It will then begin its winding journey through each country’s legislative body.

Political, stakeholder reaction

Both Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh will share their reaction to the news of the major new trade pact later this afternoon in Ottawa.

In a statement, Brian Mulroney, the former Canadian prime minister who signed the original NAFTA deal 25 years ago, said the agreement was “a highly significant achievement for Canada.”

Mulroney said that, while he has not yet had an opportunity to read the details, “Canada appears to have achieved most if not all of its important objectives in this lengthy and challenging set of negotiations.”

The key points of the new USMCA:

  • The Chapter 19 dispute resolution mechanism remains intact, though, it has been renumbered in the new 34-chapter agreement. This part of the deal allows for independent panels to resolve trade disputes that arise out of the deal. It was a red line for Canada, which feared not having an objective arbiter, despite the U.S.’s push for changes.
  • American farmers will have increased access to the supply-managed Canadian dairy market. Specifically, Canada has increased the market access to 3.59 per cent, and the federal government agreed to get rid of what was known as Class 7 pricing on some dairy ingredients. The Americans are viewing this as “a big win” for them. It’s a bigger concession than what Canada made in the Trans Pacific Partnership.
  • Canada maintained the original NAFTA text related to an exemption for cultural industries, which is aimed at protecting such things as Canadian media and cultural content.
  • Under the USMCA trade deal, online cross-border shipments to Canada worth less than $150 will no longer be subject to duties. The deal raises the raises the minimum purchase price that qualifies for duties and taxes, known as the de minimis threshold, up from $20 to $40.
  • The deal includes 12 side letters on issues including wine, water, and cheese names. Eight were posted with the first full text of the deal Sunday night, and four others were published later, regarding the national security provision, aka Section 232.
  • The deal includes stronger rules of origin for autos, and an “ambitious” slate of other provisions related to the digital age.
  • It includes a termination provision aimed at preventing the deal from becoming outdated. It states that the deal is good for 16 years after it comes into force, but within the first six years a mandatory “joint review” will be conducted to determine whether all three countries want to extend the agreement for another 16 years. It maintains the six month opt-out of the deal notice that existed in NAFTA.
  • The U.S. has given Canada assurance that an exemption — should Trump follow through on a 25 per cent tariff on autos — would be granted for 2.6 million vehicles and US$32.4 billion worth of auto parts.
  • The exchange of steel and aluminum tariffs between Canada and the U.S. remain in place for now.
 
duty free threshold 从20刀涨到150刀,sales tax 就是 HST threshold 从20刀涨到40刀。
我从美国买的东西少,前几楼有大侠说从美国网购收过 duty,还是有影响的。
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就实际情况,影响就一点点。收duty的那些东西,100刀以下能搞定不太多。:D
 
这事关系到魁省安省的核心利益,是国家实力的摊牌游戏。保守党自由党的前总理们都表态,宁可没有协议。这事不是土豆个人或者执政团队能随便让步的。别把土豆又看那么高。


加拿大也是老人干政啊?
前总理们都想干啥?
他们的权力从哪里来的?
 
别把土豆又看那么高。这事不是土豆个人或者执政团队能随便让步的。
保守党自由党的前总理们都表态,宁可没有协议。
这事关系到魁省安省的核心利益,是国家实力的摊牌游戏。

没搞错吧, 如果是保守党, 会毫不犹豫地让步乳制品, 那些魁省奶农本来就不是保守党的票仓。

实际上土豆这次的表现充分地显示了他的良好演技, 在一个多月前,各大媒体都说会在奶制品上让步, 但是外交部长就是在谈判桌上一个也不让,逼到川普在两天前说她不好。土豆在最后一刻让步, 让他守住了纠纷仲裁条款的底线, 从全局上对得起加拿大人民了, 保守党未必能谈得更好。土豆对本国奶农用安抚补贴的办法说得过去, 大家就都多吃点奶酪支持加拿大经济吧

在最后一天达成的协议不可能是在最后一天逼出来的, 最后几天都是在演戏了。所以土豆的这个条约在实际上其实就是让了奶制品几个百先, 而其他的让步并没有暂时实际利益损失,反而在工资上涨方面可能得益, 美国的胜利在于全局和框架 ,美国的利益并不全是从美墨加贸易中得到, 美国的领袖地位和金融地位让他可以利用大北美的整合打击其他贸易对手。
 
别把土豆又看那么高。这事不是土豆个人或者执政团队能随便让步的。
保守党自由党的前总理们都表态,宁可没有协议。
这事关系到魁省安省的核心利益,是国家实力的摊牌游戏。
那话是给床铺听的,是策略,实际上加拿大基本承受不了谈崩了的结局。谈下来就是好事,谈崩了才是傻笔!:p
 
没搞错吧, 如果是保守党, 会毫不犹豫地让步乳制品, 那些魁省奶农本来就不是保守党的票仓。

实际上土豆这次的表现充分地显示了他的良好演技, 在一个多月前,各大媒体都说会在奶制品上让步, 但是外交部长就是在谈判桌上一个也不让,逼到川普在两天前说她不好。土豆在最后一刻让步, 让他守住了纠纷仲裁条款的底线, 从全局上对得起加拿大人民了, 保守党未必能谈得更好。土豆对本国奶农用安抚补贴的办法说得过去, 大家就都多吃点奶酪支持加拿大经济吧

在最后一天达成的协议不可能是在最后一天逼出来的, 最后几天都是在演戏了。所以土豆的这个条约在实际上其实就是让了奶制品几个百先, 而其他的让步并没有暂时实际利益损失,反而在工资上涨方面可能得益, 美国的胜利在于全局和框架 ,美国的利益并不全是从美墨加贸易中得到, 美国的领袖地位和金融地位让他可以利用大北美的整合打击其他贸易对手。
让川普这个败家子折腾的美国的领袖地位还能坚持多久?美国的红脖们看不明白,你也不明白?
 
让川普这个败家子折腾的美国的领袖地位还能坚持多久?美国的红脖们看不明白,你也不明白?

真不明白, 请您详述
 
坚守底线是每个国家的权利, 包括美国自己。

您说他bully我认, 不知道川普哪里败家了
真不明白, 请您详述
我说他败家是他把二战以后美国历届政府做老大的努力credit and legacy都慢慢败光了。。

而这个世界只能有一个老大。。:(
 
我说他败家是他把二战以后美国历届政府做老大的努力credit and legacy都慢慢败光了。。

而这个世界只能有一个老大。。:(

他最终会被选下去的, 人民永远不会错的
 
坚守底线是每个国家的权利, 包括美国自己。

您说他bully我认, 不知道川普哪里败家了
谈判归根结底要靠实力,技不如人就不要怪老天不公平。床铺是个生意人,理财是把好手,什么时候加拿大也能出个床铺就好了。
 
谈判归根结底要靠实力,技不如人就不要怪老天不公平。床铺是个生意人,理财是把好手,什么时候加拿大也能出个床铺就好了。


美国是世界老大,川普是站在巨人肩上。他来加拿大当头的话,比土豆会强一点是真的。
 
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