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[向问天]

在加拿大为毛不能提本地老百姓呢？政府的举措还是要看民意的。“屁都不算”，你口气不小呀，要不你回中国带些人来灭了加拿大。

我反驳的是你说“本地老百姓对孟案中中国的做法极其反感”。中国政府做事凭什么要看加拿大的民意？难道中国政府是加拿大选民选的？

可见你发帖虽然不少，但是都是瞎BB。

 

[京都人]

那中国的策略就错了。这样的施压只能让加拿大做出一个选择：无条件引渡孟到美国，否则，不管是哪个党当政都无法给国民一个交代。本地老百姓对孟案中中国的做法极其反感。

你看现在引渡了吗？中国没什么选择，总不能打左脸，再把右脸递过来。土豆就是想以拖待变。老百姓认同土豆，估计连任机会又大了，你哭吧你。

 

[阿土仔]

我反驳的是你说“本地老百姓对孟案中中国的做法极其反感”。中国政府做事凭什么要看加拿大的民意？难道中国政府是加拿大选民选的？

可见你发帖虽然不少，但是都是瞎BB。

哦，是吗？本地老百姓对孟案中中国的做法是不是极其反感啊？

 

[一亩三分地]

新证据越来越清晰的点出美国那边其实证据也不多.....不突击调查的话证据不足，回头人还是得放，这事做的糙啊。

 

[阿土仔]

你看现在引渡了吗？中国没什么选择，总不能打左脸，再把右脸递过来。土豆就是想以拖待变。老百姓认同土豆，估计连任机会又大了，你哭吧你。

你认为是土豆在拖，还是孟在拖，或者两者都在拖？当然，现在最好的解决办法是美国不要求引渡孟了，这样各方面都有台阶下。

老百姓在党派竞选方面认同谁只有到大选揭晓的时候才知道。

 

[阿土仔]

新证据越来越清晰的点出美国那边其实证据也不多.....不突击调查的话证据不足，回头人还是得放，这事做的糙啊。

美国不要人了，再好不过，加拿大就坡下驴了。

 

[一亩三分地]

美国不要人了，再好不过，加拿大就坡下驴了。

人都得罪了，这下驴也没啥好下场，感觉就是被坑的角色

 

[lindamy]

新证据越来越清晰的点出美国那边其实证据也不多.....不突击调查的话证据不足，回头人还是得放，这事做的糙啊。

以前我以为是孟做演讲时的幻灯片上找到的证据，后来才知道是汇丰和她喝咖啡时骗来的幻灯片，生拉硬拽搞出来的证据。

 

[京都人]

新证据越来越清晰的点出美国那边其实证据也不多.....不突击调查的话证据不足，回头人还是得放，这事做的糙啊。

效果达到了。中加搞僵了，对美国的两个协议都有利。就算引渡之后，证据不足再释放，目的也达到了。

 

[flapjack_monkey]

哦，是吗？本地老百姓对孟案中中国的做法是不是极其反感啊？

孟案已经进入司法程序，本地老百姓反感不反感有影响吗？如果有，加拿大又如何说自己会做到司法公正？

 

[阿土仔]

人都得罪了，这下驴也没啥好下场，感觉就是被坑的角色

那有什么办法，谁让加拿大人选了土豆呢？

 

[flapjack_monkey]

对于孟案，我最初的观点是“让RCMP去抓了，但没抓到人”，打个马虎眼就过去了。但由于土豆的傻笔，人已经抓了，就必须走程序。中国的一系列报复明显是惹不起美国而拿加拿大出气，这就有点无赖了。对此的最好回应是加速完成引渡程序，让孟到美国"冤有头、债有主"的说个清楚。

为什么不能是法官宣布孟引渡案不成立，孟被当厅释放？

 

[阿土仔]

为什么不能是法官宣布孟引渡案不成立，孟被当厅释放？

也不能说没有这种可能。但在中国的强力施压下加拿大如果放人，国民会质疑加拿大政府屈从于压力而有碍司法公正，这是哪个党派都背不动的黑锅。

 

[flapjack_monkey]

也不能说没有这种可能。但在中国的强力施压下加拿大如果放人，国民会质疑加拿大政府屈从于压力而有碍司法公正，这是哪个党派都背不动的黑锅。

现在法官怎么判和政府无关。如果政府在现阶段介入，不管是朝哪个方向，那才是有碍司法公正。
真要是法官判了放人，小土豆也不一定就要去背什么黑锅。土共很大可能是找个借口把两个加拿大人也放了，一场危机烟消云。

 

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Vancouver makes an unlikely front line in the battle between global superpowers.

But the Huawei executive whose arrest last year placed Canada in the middle of a conflict between China and the United States will again take centre stage in a B.C. courtroom this week.

Meng Wanzhou's lawyers will begin eight days of hearings Monday, scheduled to argue for access to documents related to her initial detention and arrest at Vancouver's airport last December on a warrant for extradition to the U.S.

Vancouver makes an unlikely front line in the battle between global superpowers.

But the Huawei executive whose arrest last year placed Canada in the middle of a conflict between China and the United States will again take centre stage in a B.C. courtroom this week.

Meng Wanzhou's lawyers will begin eight days of hearings Monday, scheduled to argue for access to documents related to her initial detention and arrest at Vancouver's airport last December on a warrant for extradition to the U.S.

Meng has been living under the terms of a self-funded form of house arrest since she was released on $10 million bail last December. She is guarded around the clock. (Ben Nelms/Reuters)

Meng is accused of lying about the relationship of the two companies to an HSBC executive during a meeting at a Hong Kong restaurant in 2013 — allegedly putting U.S. banks at risk of violating sanctions.

Both she and Huawei have denied all the allegations.

The 47-year-old has been living under a form of house arrest in one of her two multi-million-dollar Vancouver homes after being released on $10 million bail in the weeks following her initial detention.

'Unlawfully detained, searched and interrogated'
Last December, President Donald Trump said he would be willing to intervene with the U.S. Justice Department in the case against Meng, if it would help secure a trade deal with Beijing.

In documents filed with the court in advance of this week's proceedings, Meng's lawyers claim Trump's comments provide "important context to what occurred" in the days and hours leading up to her arrest.

They accuse American and Canadian authorities of using the CBSA's extraordinary powers of detention to mount a "covert criminal investigation" against their client.

They claim RCMP originally planned to arrest Meng on the plane, but changed their minds for some unknown reason.

Notes included in a defence application for documents also show that a CBSA officer asked Meng about Huawei's business in Iran as she watched him inspect her bags.

A still from a video of Meng filed as part of a defence application for access to documents. The video was taken during Meng's first few hours in CBSA custody.

Meng's lawyers ultimately plan to argue that all those factors contribute to abuses of process serious enough to have the case tossed.

But first they hope to convince B.C. Supreme Court Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes to order the disclosure of notes, emails, texts, reports and any other documents they believe will help them make their case.

"[Meng] submits that she was unlawfully detained, searched and interrogated at YVR under a ruse carried out by the CBSA, RCMP and American authorities, for the benefit of and likely at the direction of the FBI and other U.S. authorities," the defence team claims.

"In these circumstances, one would reasonably expect that the FBI was in communication with the [Department of Justice], the RCMP and/or CBSA throughout these events ... Yet none of this material has been disclosed."

A legal tangle
Monday's hearing will be the first time Meng has made a public appearance in months, guaranteeing a flock of media from around the world.

Her extradition hearing itself isn't slated to begin until January 2020. A separate hearing is also slated for next year to deal with the abuse of process allegations.

Since her last appearance in B.C. Supreme Court, Meng has moved into the second of her Vancouver homes, this $15-million mansion in Shaughnessy. (Evan Mitsui/CBC)

But a variety of legal proceedings have to play out before any of that can happen.

Adding to the legal complications, Meng is suing both the Canada Border Services Agency and the RCMP for allegedly violating her Charter rights during her initial arrest and detention.

The civil suit is a separate process to the extradition proceedings, but both will focus intense scrutiny on the events leading up to and including Meng's arrest — including the reason authorities allegedly made a last-minute decision to have CBSA officers detain Meng instead of arresting her either on the plane or as she disembarked.

Hearings in both cases are scheduled for Monday morning.

A 'ruse' to get information?
Meng's civil lawyers have interviewed Canadian officials at length as part of the discovery process and have told the court her extradition lawyers want to see those transcripts — which have not yet been entered into the record.

At a sparsely attended hearing a few weeks ago, Chief Justice Christopher Hinkson expressed some doubts about the motivation for the civil case.

A sign in support of Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou is displayed outside of the B.C. Supreme Court building where she will again take centre stage this week. (David Ryder/Reuters)

"I'm concerned that what's going on in this civil lawsuit is just a ruse to get information for the extradition proceedings," Hinkson told Meng's civil lawyers.

But Meng's civil lawyer, Howard Mickelson, claimed there was "meat on the bones" of the allegations that Meng's rights had been violated and that her two separate legal teams were not working together.

It's all likely to contribute to a day of unprecedented activity at the court.

'People are puzzled'
Meanwhile, the ripples from Meng's arrest continue to be felt in both Canada and China.

The Chinese government has blocked imports of canola seeds, pork and beef from Canada.

Two Canadians accused of drug trafficking in China have been sentenced to death.

Michael Spavor, left, and former Canadian diplomat Michael Kovrig, right, were taken into custody in China after Meng's arrest in Vancouver. They are accused of spying. (Associated Press/International Crisis Group/Canadian Press)

And Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig remain in custody in China. The two men, who are accused of spying, were arrested within days of Meng's detention in Vancouver.

China has denied that any of these actions were taken in direct retaliation, but Chinese officials have made no secret of their displeasure with Canada's decision to assist the U.S. with Meng's extradition.

Paul Evans, a University of B.C. professor who is director emeritus of the Institute of Asian Research, says Meng's situation has captured the world's attention.

Evans says he's spoken with people across the country about the case and the underlying issues. Feelings are mixed, he says, but even the most tangled of court appearances will have the ability to spark debate.

"People are puzzled about Meng, but they generally are divided on whether they're sympathetic to her, whether they see her caught in a vice knot of her own making, whether this has been sprung on us by the Americans," he says.

'Something that frightens'
Evans says the longer the case drags on, the more concern for Kovrig and Spavor will eclipse Meng's legal peril, especially considering the draconian conditions of their incarceration compared to Meng's gold-plated house arrest.

He says the case raises questions about the possibility of extradition being used as a tool for the United States to pursue a vendetta — questions at the heart of this week's proceedings.

Meng's extradition lawyers have argued that for years, U.S. officials "have been stopping Huawei employees at U.S. ports of entry in order to gather evidence" as part of an "overall escalation in tactics" against Huawei.

"When we talk about who's breaking the rule of law, who's breaking international norms, this thing that the United States has done in going after Meng, is something that frightens the Chinese, it frightens people in Europe," Evans says.

"If the United States is going to use extradition treaties to pull the chains on individuals who in this case are Chinese — is this something new?"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/meng-wanzhou-september-hearing-1.5289143