The Guardian: Huawei affair reveals superpowers’ imperial rules of engagement

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Blame the British, as usual. In 1807, in the midst of a struggle with Napoleonic France, HMS Leopard, a Royal Navy ship of the line, attacked, boarded and captured an American frigate, USS Chesapeake, off Norfolk, Virginia. The British claimed their action was justified by the presence on the American ship of four English deserters, whom they arrested. But, for President Thomas Jefferson, it was an outrageous, illegal infringement of the sovereignty and independence of the infant republic, eventually leading to the 1812 war.

It’s fair to say the Americans never forgot lessons drawn from the Chesapeake humiliation – and have been faithfully following Britain’s script ever since. As its power grew, the US, too, assumed the right to extend its national writ beyond its shores. One modern example is the way the US justice department ruthlessly pursues foreign nationals, such as the Scottish hacker Gary McKinnon, who are deemed to have broken US law. McKinnon’s extradition was ultimately blocked in 2012 by Britain’s then home secretary, Theresa May, after a public outcry.

Donald Trump’s threat to impose sweeping penalties on any country or individual, anywhere in the world, that dares to ignore his unilateral embargo on Iran’s oil exports is another instance of extra-territorial over-reach. Like an Oriental pasha of old, Trump has graciously deigned to issue exemptions to supplicants who beg for relief. But the overall principle is clear: in its view, the US has the right to direct and control the actions of sovereign states using threats, sanctions and almost any other means at its disposal.

Even liberal-minded Americans see no particular problem with such overweening, imperial power-plays – for who, some argue, can doubt that the US, as the pre-eminent guardian of enlightened values, acts for the best? Yet American power is no longer as all-pervasive, or trusted, as perhaps it was 30 years ago. Many contemporary states, allies included, do harbour serious doubts about US motives and intentions.

Foremost among them is China – a rival, not a friend – whose furious reaction last week to the arrest in Canada, on a US warrant, of the top Huawei executive, Meng Wanzhou, showed how Washington’s presumptuous attempts to exercise universal jurisdiction have become outdated, objectionable – and increasingly unenforceable.

Meng is ostensibly wanted for breaching Iran sanctions. But the wider context is more instructive than the specific, alleged offence. Huawei is the world’s largest supplier of telecommunications network equipment and second-biggest maker of smartphones, with revenue of about $92bn last year. Western spy chiefs believe its market dominance, and close association with China’s communist regime, pose a security risk. The US, Australia, New Zealand and Japan have all recently restricted use of Huawei technology.

In Britain, Huawei has pledged to spend $2bn to fix security loopholes that the National Cyber Security Centre, an offshoot of the GCHQ spy agency, fears could be exploited for surveillance and data-collection. The promise followed a reportedly bad-tempered meeting last month with British officials. Huawei insists that neither Meng, nor the company, have broken the law or pose any kind of security risk.

The row will intensify existing worries about Chinese state-approved investment in Britain’s next generation of nuclear power stations. Meanwhile, in a public speech, Alex Younger, the head of MI6, said Britain must decide whether it was “comfortable” with using Chinese technology in critical national infrastructure. Last week, BT gave its answer, confirming it was removing Huawei equipment from its 4G network.

More broadly still, the backdrop of intensifying US-China strategic, geopolitical and economic rivalry is also germane to Meng’s arrest, as is both countries’ blatant disregard for international law. The US warrant has embarrassed Canada, partly due to suspicions that it is a politically motivated abuse of the extradition system. Although it will not admit it, China’s action last week in detaining two Canadian citizens was direct retribution, intended to pressure Ottawa into releasing Meng.

There can be little doubt Meng is a highly symbolic victim of this global rivalry. Typically clueless, Trump gave the game away when he explicitly linked the possible dropping of the case against her to resolving the US-China trade war. Trump’s clumsy intervention – rapidly disavowed by his own justice department – left the US looking no better than Beijing. Both sides appear guilty of what amounts, in effect, to hostage-taking – not what the world expects from superpowers. But perhaps it’s no surprise. After all, it is learned behaviour, courtesy of the Royal Navy.
 
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More broadly still, the backdrop of intensifying US-China strategic, geopolitical and economic rivalry is also germane to Meng’s arrest, as is both countries’ blatant disregard for international law.
好了,老向们的呐喊终于使得国际社会对中国的刻板印象成为逃不掉的事实:
川大和习大,都是藐视国际法律的两个旧社会土耳其老巴夏,棋逢对手,灵魂眷侣。。。:wall::wall::monster:
 
国际法律的制定权解释权执行权一直都在列强手里。藐视国际法律是一个很可笑的说法。


好了,老向们的呐喊终于使得国际社会对中国的刻板印象成为逃不掉的事实:
川大和习大,都是藐视国际法律的两个旧社会土耳其老巴夏,棋逢对手,灵魂眷侣。。。:wall::wall::monster:
 
国际法律的制定权解释权执行权一直都在列强手里。藐视国际法律是一个很可笑的说法。
不会吧,你要帮老向啊?:eek:
规则的确是胳膊粗的制订的,但是也不能因为规则不合你意你就不遵守啊,等自己胳膊粗了再争取规则制定权,否则你反也反不了嘛对不对?当然川大自己也反是有点好笑。:D
 
没听说过双重标准的说法吗。法是死的,人是活的。利益是根本的。 同样的规则可以有不同的解释。而且不管如何制定规则解释规则,总的让系统正常运转。公司违法处罚公司说的过去。如果公司违法就都抓高管,那整个世界经济系统就没法运转了。孟这种情况如果都抓高管,米国自己的大企业高管要抓多少? 不说通常的欺诈百姓的案子,和伊朗有关的违规,牵扯到的美国大公司大银行就有一大批。如果再扯上欧日韩,那就更不知有多少。


不会吧,你要帮老向啊?:eek: 规则的确是胳膊粗的制订的,但是也不能因为规则不合你意你就不遵守啊,等自己胳膊粗了再争取规则制定权,否则你反也反不了嘛对不对?当然川大自己也反是有点好笑。:D
 
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都知道这报纸吧。
 
都知道这报纸吧。


美国自己的经济学家应该比英国人更懂这件事的原委。


https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ca...tional-trade-cold-war-jeffrey-sachs-1.4947966

Canada abetting Washington's 'new Cold War' with Huawei arrest, says economist
  • Justin Li · CBC News · Posted: Dec 15, 2018 3:19 PM ET | Last Updated: 6 hours ago

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    Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou is escorted by her private security detail while arriving at a parole office in Vancouver on Wednesday. (Darryl Dyck/Canadian Press)
    The arrest of a Chinese tech executive is yet another example that the U.S. is creating "a new Cold War" in international trade, says economist Jeffrey Sachs, who adds that Canada is abetting its southern neighbour.

    Canadian officials arrested Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of the Chinese telecommunications firm Huawei, in Vancouver on an extradition request from the U.S. She has been released on $10-million bail and must stay at her Vancouver home.

    Sachs — director of Columbia University's Center for Sustainable Development and the UN's Sustainable Development Solutions Network — believes the arrest is an attempt by the U.S. to "stop China's rise" by creating a chilling effect on Chinese businesses."You have a neighbour to the south that is quite erratic ... a little bit unhinged at China's rise in power," Sachs told CBC from Warsaw, Poland.

    "This is a pretty well-known American approach to use its power to try and break the economic momentum of a rival, and I think it's very, very bad behaviour and very dangerous, actually, for the world to have a new Cold War," he added.

    "This is the U.S. Cold War mentality being replayed ... the U.S. just doesn't want any rivals anywhere."
 
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加拿大自己的经济学家应该比英国人跟懂这件事的原委。


https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ca...tional-trade-cold-war-jeffrey-sachs-1.4947966

Canada abetting Washington's 'new Cold War' with Huawei arrest, says economist
  • Justin Li · CBC News · Posted: Dec 15, 2018 3:19 PM ET | Last Updated: 6 hours ago

    china-huawei-cda-20181212.jpg
    Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou is escorted by her private security detail while arriving at a parole office in Vancouver on Wednesday. (Darryl Dyck/Canadian Press)
    The arrest of a Chinese tech executive is yet another example that the U.S. is creating "a new Cold War" in international trade, says economist Jeffrey Sachs, who adds that Canada is abetting its southern neighbour.

    Canadian officials arrested Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of the Chinese telecommunications firm Huawei, in Vancouver on an extradition request from the U.S. She has been released on $10-million bail and must stay at her Vancouver home.

    Sachs — director of Columbia University's Center for Sustainable Development and the UN's Sustainable Development Solutions Network — believes the arrest is an attempt by the U.S. to "stop China's rise" by creating a chilling effect on Chinese businesses."You have a neighbour to the south that is quite erratic ... a little bit unhinged at China's rise in power," Sachs told CBC from Warsaw, Poland.

    "This is a pretty well-known American approach to use its power to try and break the economic momentum of a rival, and I think it's very, very bad behaviour and very dangerous, actually, for the world to have a new Cold War," he added.

    "This is the U.S. Cold War mentality being replayed ... the U.S. just doesn't want any rivals anywhere."


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The arrest of a Chinese tech executive is yet another example that the U.S. is creating "a new Cold War" in international trade, says economist Jeffrey Sachs, who adds that Canada is abetting its southern neighbour.

Canadian officials arrested Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of the Chinese telecommunications firm Huawei, in Vancouver on an extradition request from the U.S. She has been released on $10-million bail and must stay at her Vancouver home.

Sachs — director of Columbia University's Center for Sustainable Development and the UN's Sustainable Development Solutions Network — believes the arrest is an attempt by the U.S. to "stop China's rise" by creating a chilling effect on Chinese businesses.

"You have a neighbour to the south that is quite erratic ... a little bit unhinged at China's rise in power," Sachs told CBC from Warsaw, Poland.

"This is a pretty well-known American approach to use its power to try and break the economic momentum of a rival, and I think it's very, very bad behaviour and very dangerous, actually, for the world to have a new Cold War," he added.

"This is the U.S. Cold War mentality being replayed ... the U.S. just doesn't want any rivals anywhere."

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Sachs also questioned the reason for the arrest, arguing the motive is inconsistent with previous U.S. behaviour.

"She's charged with — as I understand it — fraud, for a presentation she gave to HSBC about Iran dealings," said Sachs.

"It's interesting that HSBC was itself sanctioned for massive violations of U.S. sanctions to Iran, but not a single executive faced any charges, much less an arrest in a foreign airport, and dragged through a process like [Meng]," he added.

"This is extraordinary, and I understand why China's reaction is as it is, because it's absolutely, completely out of the norm."

Meng's father is founder of Huawei, a powerful Chinese telecommunications company that has sold equipment and consulting services around the world. The company is moving rapidly into 5G technology working with international researchers, but some critics have accused Huawei of spying on behalf of the Chinese government.

The fraud allegations against Meng centre around the relationship between Huawei and a Hong Kong company called Skycom, that did business in Iran.

According to U.S. prosecutors, Skycom was a "hidden" subsidiary of Huawei. Meng once served on Skycom's board of directors but she says Huawei sold its interest in Skycom and she stepped down from the board.

Iran is subject to U.S. sanctions and banks can be found criminally liable if they help move money out of a sanctioned country and into the broader global banking system.

'Canada's being used and manipulated'
Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig were detained by China on Monday over what the Beijing News, a state-run Chinese newspaper, described as suspicion of engagement in activities that endanger China's state security.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Friday criticized China's actions, calling them "not acceptable."

When asked if the detention of the two Canadian men was intended as retaliation, a spokesperson for China's Foreign Ministry said they were being handled according to Chinese law.

Sachs believes the arrests are a consequence for Canada's recent involvement in Washington's campaign to levy heavy-handed punishment on Meng over perceived Iran sanctions violations.

"I think Canada's doing the bidding of United States policy that is not well-controlled or well-modulated," he said.

"Maybe Canada's being used and manipulated, not only vis-à-vis China, but for the United States to try to show anyone: 'You dare cross us on any business with Iran, you're going to pay a price.'"

Canadian officials, including Trudeau, have emphasized that Canada's arrest of Meng was not arbitrary, but done in accordance with the extradition treaty in place with the United States.

Sachs urges Canada to consider evaluating the situation by its own merits rather than acquiescing to U.S. demands.

"To my view, Canada should reflect independently and realize that what it's being asked to do was completely outside international norm and very provocative," he said.
 
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Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale is calling reports that Canada will join some of its Five Eyes allies in banning the telecommunications giant Huawei from its 5G network "speculation."

This week, the Sydney Morning Herald reported that Ottawa is expected to announce a formal ban on tech firm Huawei and ZTE, China's second-largest telecommunications equipment maker, within weeks.

The Australian paper said the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing alliance met in Nova Scotia in July to discuss what to do about Huawei.

Asked about the reported gathering, Goodale said he "was not part of that meeting."

"That's a meeting that involved the security agencies, I gather, but ministers were not there," he added.

But he dismissed talk of a ban as "speculation."

"The issues are being very carefully considered by Canadians. We have not arrived at a conclusion," he told CBC Radio's The House.

Most of Canada's partners in the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing alliance have taken action against the telecommunications firm.

New Zealand and Australia have banned the use of Huawei products in their 5G network development, fearing Huawei could use its access to spy for the Chinese government. In August, U.S. President Donald Trump signed a bill imposing restrictions on government contracts with Huawei and ZTE, citing national security concerns.

And earlier this month, the U.K.'s BT Group said it would remove Huawei equipment from its existing 3G and 4G mobile operations.

Canada is conducting a comprehensive review of the 5G technology movement, which is expected to bring faster connections and greater data capacity.

"Digital technologies enrich our lives in countless ways and underlying them is complex infrastructure upon which our economy and modern society depend ... our most sensitive personal and financial information is floating in a cloud," Goodale told the crowd, adding foreign states, militaries, terror groups, organized crime and petty thieves try to hack Canada's digital infrastructure millions of times a day.

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"Imagine the damage that would ensue if a major digital infrastructure system were to be compromised — in telecommunications, for example, or banking, or transportation, or healthcare or energy transmission."

Some national security experts have warned against giving a Chinese company access to such critical infrastructure.

The government has not said yet when that 5G review report is due. Infrastructure Minister François-Philippe Champagne told the Canadian Press the government doesn't want to rush it.

Five Eyes have raised concerns

Huawei has long insisted that it is not a state-controlled company and denies engaging in intelligence work for the Chinese government. However, Chinese law dictates that companies must "support, co-operate with and collaborate in national intelligence work."

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Huawei has long insisted that it is not a state-controlled company and denies engaging in intelligence work for the Chinese government. (Luis Gene/AFP/Getty Images)

Canada's relationship with Huawei is under heightened pressure now after officials arrested the company's chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou on an extradition request from the U.S.

This week, the Conservative Opposition urged the Trudeau government to keep Huawei away from Canada's 5G infrastructure.

"This is a major security threat, and this government refuses to do anything about it," said Conservative MP Dan Albas.

Earlier this month, Canadian Security Intelligence Service Director David Vigneault said his agency already has seen a trend emerging of state-sponsored espionage in fields like artificial intelligence, quantum technology and 5G wireless tech.

Business standards coming
Goodale also hinted at new legislation that would set cybersecurity standards for Canadian companies.

"The crucial point is the weakest link. It can bring down the whole house of cards and do irreparable harm. Those links need to be avoided to the maximum extent possible," he said in his speech.

He later clarified that the new legislation, coming in the new year, would lay out corporate and business responsibilities to prevent cyber attacks.

The standards would cover companies' online practices and customer and employee procedures.

"In most of these hacking incidents, the hacker is exploiting a defect or a gap in the security system a company has set up," he said.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/huawei-5g-goodale-1.4946635
 
没听说过双重标准的说法吗。法是死的,人是活的。利益是根本的。 同样的规则可以有不同的解释。而且不管如何制定规则解释规则,总的让系统正常运转。公司违法处罚公司说的过去。如果公司违法就都抓高管,那整个世界经济系统就没法运转了。孟这种情况如果都抓高管,米国自己的大企业高管要抓多少? 不说通常的欺诈百姓的案子,和伊朗有关的违规,牵扯到的美国大公司大银行就有一大批。如果再扯上欧日韩,那就更不知有多少。
杀人的没被抓也不一定是双重标准,很可能是漏网的。但杀人被抓了就该认命,再抱怨不公平也不能证明自己没杀人。既然你做了,办你就没错!你说是不是这个道理?
 
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