2019-2020 IB新生录取结果放榜了！

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不要过分强调你那客观。。CAT号称无法准备，但我能让学习一般的小孩一个月刷题刷到全部95+你信吗？
教师的推荐信在录取中其实才是个killer。。而且即使apeal，推荐信也是看不到的。。如果教育局的resource足够，应该如私校录取一样加入学生面试环节，这样才能减少录取中的分歧。。。但是在目前的情况下，倚重同一系统中学校的report card和教师推荐是最有效的办法。。

还记得省选吧，还记得即使福胖一大堆毛病，可老中还是相当大比例给福胖的党选票，为啥呢？ 如果这福胖不上去，让NDP上台，EQAO砍掉了，学校客观评判的没有了，大家都软性指标，老中孩子还有上升台阶么？ 完全靠软性指标，小中娃能拼得过小白，小黑，小印，小木吗？

IB课程（文科类）超级强大我完全认同。本来这个CAT给了IB选拔一个客观的依据和修正，可惜IB并没有好好抓住这机会。造成了现在这偏文类+一大堆主观因素完全主导了局面，这是IB选拔机制的硬伤。不得不承认这一点。

 

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还记得省选吧，还记得即使福胖一大堆毛病，可老中还是相当大比例给福胖的党选票，为啥呢？ 如果这福胖不上去，让NDP上台，EQAO砍掉了，学校客观评判的没有了，大家都软性指标，老中孩子还有上升台阶么？ 完全靠软性指标，小中娃能拼得过小白，小黑，小印，小木吗？

IB课程（文科类）超级强大我完全认同。本来这个CAT给了IB选拔一个客观的依据和修正，可惜IB并没有好好抓住这机会。造成了现在这偏文类+一大堆主观因素完全主导了局面，这是IB选拔机制的硬伤。不得不承认这一点。

中国高考体制的最大弊端是什么？

 

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中国高考体制的最大弊端是什么？

中国机制弊端就是100%硬指标。

任何事物不能走极端，软性和硬性的如果一方绝大比例做大是不利的。

我以前说过美国大学的选拔机制，我认为是最好的。各类硬指标，软指标都有

 

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中国机制弊端就是100%硬指标。

任何事物不能走极端，软性和硬性的如果一方绝大比例做大是不利的。

我以前说过美国大学的选拔机制，我认为是最好的。各类硬指标，软指标都有

中国高考非百分之百硬指标，比如北京人上清华北大比外地人容易一百倍。

 

[小地主]

中国机制弊端就是100%硬指标。

任何事物不能走极端，软性和硬性的如果一方绝大比例做大是不利的。

我以前说过美国大学的选拔机制，我认为是最好的。各类硬指标，软指标都有

美国的选拔机制是最好的吗？最好的为啥哈佛还被告着呢。。所有的选拔机制都有缺陷，但是要注意的是rule是人家制定的不是你我制定的。。
下面这个哈佛给高中生建议的课程选择你值得读一读，我替一个朋友转发给你。。文理并重历来是综合大学招生的原则。。强调一招鲜吃遍天的都是蓝翔。。


How Can You Best Prepare for Harvard?
We hope you will read our thoughts about choosing high school courses that will provide a strong base for a liberal arts education. But in summary, we recommend:

• The study of English for four years: close and extensive reading of the classics of the world’s literature
• Four years of a single foreign language
• The study of history for at least two, and preferably three years: American history, European history, and one additional advanced history course
• The study of mathematics for four years, including the particular topics described
• The study of science for four years: physics, chemistry, and biology, and preferably one of these at an advanced level
• Frequent practice in the writing of expository prose

Various important secondary school subjects, such as art and music, are not specifically mentioned in our recommendations. The omission of these subjects should not be interpreted as a value judgment. We are concerned only with secondary school subjects for which we have data that suggest they are specific prerequisites for college work.

Academic preparation and admission
While we believe that the conclusions summarized on this page will meet the expectations of many other selective colleges, let us say a word about Harvard, since it was here that the data underlying our conclusions were gathered.
This overview is not intended to provide a formula that will ensure admission to Harvard. Our admissions policies are based on many criteria. Some are academic; others are not.
Our Admissions Office chooses carefully from a broad range of applicants who seem to us to offer the most promise for future contributions to society. Not all of the students who are best prepared for college will be among those with the most future promise, nor are all of the most promising well prepared academically.
While the heart of the matter will always lie in academic promise, we prize candidates with special talents and with outstanding personal qualities; we are interested in students who excel in one or more extracurricular activities; and we seek a distinctive and diverse national and international student body.
Most of all we look for students who make the most of their opportunities and the resources available to them, and who are likely to continue to do so throughout their lives.
We believe that you should prepare for college by mastering certain subjects and skills. You should demonstrate your proficiency in the areas described below by taking SAT II Subject Tests, Advanced Placement tests, and International Baccalaureate tests.

 

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美国的选拔机制是最好的吗？最好的为啥哈佛还被告着呢。。所有的选拔机制都有缺陷，但是要注意的是rule是人家制定的不是你我制定的。。
下面这个哈佛给高中生建议的课程选择你值得读一读，我替一个朋友转发给你。。文理并重历来是综合大学招生的原则。。强调一招鲜吃遍天的都是蓝翔。。


How Can You Best Prepare for Harvard?
We hope you will read our thoughts about choosing high school courses that will provide a strong base for a liberal arts education. But in summary, we recommend:

• The study of English for four years: close and extensive reading of the classics of the world’s literature
• Four years of a single foreign language
• The study of history for at least two, and preferably three years: American history, European history, and one additional advanced history course
• The study of mathematics for four years, including the particular topics described
• The study of science for four years: physics, chemistry, and biology, and preferably one of these at an advanced level
• Frequent practice in the writing of expository prose

Various important secondary school subjects, such as art and music, are not specifically mentioned in our recommendations. The omission of these subjects should not be interpreted as a value judgment. We are concerned only with secondary school subjects for which we have data that suggest they are specific prerequisites for college work.

Academic preparation and admission
While we believe that the conclusions summarized on this page will meet the expectations of many other selective colleges, let us say a word about Harvard, since it was here that the data underlying our conclusions were gathered.
This overview is not intended to provide a formula that will ensure admission to Harvard. Our admissions policies are based on many criteria. Some are academic; others are not.
Our Admissions Office chooses carefully from a broad range of applicants who seem to us to offer the most promise for future contributions to society. Not all of the students who are best prepared for college will be among those with the most future promise, nor are all of the most promising well prepared academically.
While the heart of the matter will always lie in academic promise, we prize candidates with special talents and with outstanding personal qualities; we are interested in students who excel in one or more extracurricular activities; and we seek a distinctive and diverse national and international student body.
Most of all we look for students who make the most of their opportunities and the resources available to them, and who are likely to continue to do so throughout their lives.
We believe that you should prepare for college by mastering certain subjects and skills. You should demonstrate your proficiency in the areas described below by taking SAT II Subject Tests, Advanced Placement tests, and International Baccalaureate tests.

美国的录取制度不能说没有缺陷，但是我觉得在目前世界各国录取系统中是最好的，远远超过中国和加拿大。你能想得到的各类考试，比赛，活动应有尽有。全系列。孩子在小学时就有很多客观的标准和参照物。加拿大小学打基础的这一段是短板。

哈佛的理念我完全赞同， SELECTIVE的，强化的模式在加拿大早就应该实施。但加拿大的小学是个问题，基本没学到啥。文理兼备应该从小学开始，到了8年级时准备上高中时，已经太晚了，各类孩子能力倾向大方向基本定型，很难高效的通过科班方式补短了。只能依托孩子强项做改进。

 

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看了大家的讨论，结合我娃CAT4成绩（4个total 分别是94，94，99，99）和平常的表现，俺真的怀疑IB录取标准。俺娃没被录取但俺没觉得有太多的遗憾，不去也没什么遗憾的。

CB和MH就是看出来你儿子无所谓的样子才决定不录取的

 

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事在人为，那就wait and see 了。。

需要的就是这点儿精神

 

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中国高考体制的最大弊端是什么？

客观

 

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美国的录取制度不能说没有缺陷，但是我觉得在目前世界各国录取系统中是最好的，远远超过中国和加拿大。你能想得到的各类考试，比赛，活动应有尽有。全系列。孩子在小学时就有很多客观的标准和参照物。加拿大小学打基础的这一段是短板。

哈佛的理念我完全赞同， SELECTIVE的，强化的模式在加拿大早就应该实施。但加拿大的小学是个问题，基本没学到啥。文理兼备应该从小学开始，到了8年级时准备上高中时，已经太晚了，各类孩子能力倾向大方向基本定型，很难高效的通过IB科班方式补短了。只能依托孩子强项做改进。

切，哈佛会赞同你么

 

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客观

培养出书虫书呆子，百般无用。

再看看那汉语水平。

 

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培养出书虫书呆子，百般无用。

也不能这么说。。。。。。都挺听话。

 

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也不能这么说。。。。。。都挺听话。

呵呵，刁钻是真的。

 

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爱玛，海内外中国家长为了祖国的花骨朵真是呕心沥血啊上周去坎屯唠嗑，侧面证实了坎屯家长疯狂的推娃事迹：有孟母三迁的，有分居分阵地培养的，有ib群、饿哦嘛群，各种课外活动小群。。。。个个都是教育家，思想家、战略家再接国内家长的电话，更疯狂，申请私校国际学生不仅家长孩子要面试，还要通过据说研究生水平的英语考试，小sat考试，3%的录取率逼的家长有条件辞职的辞职，没条件的到处找home stay,反正最次大学都没出来的，都没脸见人

 

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爱玛，海内外中国家长为了祖国的花骨朵真是呕心沥血啊上周去坎屯唠嗑，侧面证实了坎屯家长疯狂的推娃事迹：有孟母三迁的，有分居分阵地培养的，有ib群、饿哦嘛群，各种课外活动小群。。。。个个都是教育家，思想家、战略家再接国内家长的电话，更疯狂，申请私校国际学生不仅家长孩子要面试，还要通过据说研究生水平的英语考试，小sat考试，3%的录取率逼的家长有条件辞职的辞职，没条件的到处找home stay,反正最次大学都没出来的，都没脸见人

丽处，您社交圈广，您能否帮忙 给卡屯降降温？
-让从卡北EOM考上IB的都去MERIVALE IB发展，缓解一下座位紧张的局面？
-小留理性选择EOM

麻烦您给宣传宣传。