太惨了，死的39人全是中国人

[飞来客]

到底都是哪国人？

没有确切的国籍证据，英国人已经说了，暂时不再公布是那里的人了。

 

[lindamy]

这事儿真必须当作犯罪来看。虽然看似好像没对别人直接造成伤害。
很多毒村，走私村，盗猎村，人贩子村，也是拿命换钱。也是村里家家小洋楼。我看这些偷渡村和那些也没啥两样。
不能因为家人过上更好生活，就把犯罪看成可以理解的行为
严打犯罪是为了警醒后来人。减少这样的悲剧发生。可恶的不是对这些人冷嘲热讽的。而是美化这种行为唱赞歌鼓励别人继续去这样做的的那一批人。

我不赞成这种致富方法，同意各国执法机构严防死守，坚决打击。
偷渡客是犯罪，但最不至死，在生死边缘上，任何人遇见都有义务施以援手。这并非纵然认可犯罪。
极少数唱赞歌的是利用这类事件达到某种抹黑目的，就像老猫说的是吃人血馒头。对这些人的言论不奇怪。

 

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[gcy1208]

我不赞成这种致富方法，同意各国执法机构严防死守，坚决打击。
偷渡客是犯罪，但最不至死，在生死边缘上，任何人遇见都有义务施以援手。这并非纵然认可犯罪。
极少数唱赞歌的是利用这类事件达到某种抹黑目的，就像老猫说的是吃人血馒头。对这些人的言论不奇怪。

他们当然罪不至死，也不应该死。可他们的死是因为他们将自己置身法外，是他们自己造成的。所以他们才是太可怜啦！可怜到想去同情他们都很难找到正当的理由。

 

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不是最新消息吧。

 

[9981]

我不赞成这种致富方法，同意各国执法机构严防死守，坚决打击。
偷渡客是犯罪，但最不至死，在生死边缘上，任何人遇见都有义务施以援手。这并非纵然认可犯罪。
极少数唱赞歌的是利用这类事件达到某种抹黑目的，就像老猫说的是吃人血馒头。对这些人的言论不奇怪。

他偷渡会让你看见？ 还援手？

 

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[longshan]

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太可惜了，多读点书吧。
他们只要把集装箱上部那个布帘拆下来，堵在后面那个黑色矩形空调进风口就行了。
那个布帘是冷风送气风道。保证冷气送到全集装箱的。
司机就会立刻发现空调工作不正常，车厢温度不够，会停车检查的。

 

[lindamy]

他偷渡会让你看见？ 还援手？

当然不容易，但有可能，比如万一有人听到呼救信号，或者声音。

 

[winterheather]

几乎肯定都是越南人。据说越南帮和福清帮不能混合的。

到底都是哪国人？

 

[知更鸟]

https://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2019/10/26/8804103.html
3辆车100多越南人去英国 2辆已到达 有人持伪造中国护照

不管是哪国人，还是感到悲哀。希望严惩组织非法偷渡的蛇头。

他们当然罪不至死，也不应该死。可他们的死是因为他们将自己置身法外，是他们自己造成的。所以他们才是太可怜啦！可怜到想去同情他们都很难找到正当的理由。

他们大概还没有法的概念，他们也许视蛇头为上天派来救他们出苦海的福星，你和他们说蛇头骗人，他们也许会和你拼命。你要帮他们走合法途径移民，等着蛇头收拾吧。
认人不清，能怎么办？如果没出事，他们也许会是下一批蛇头。

 

[知更鸟]

问个问题，请指教。美加新澳是移民国家，英国是非移民国家，那这些人到加拿大是不是可以申请庇护留下来，就不用用这么危险的方式来了?

 

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The 39 migrants who died after being locked in a freezing container en-route to the UK left 'bloody handprints' on the inside of the doors and walls of the 'coffin' where their bodies were found, it was revealed last night.

It is grim evidence of the victims' desperate final moments while locked inside the container that was loaded onto a ferry in Zeebrugge in Belgium in a people smuggling operation, before the shocking discovery at an Essex port on Wednesday.

Sources have now claimed that the migrants, six of whom were thought to have been Vietnamese, were naked or had minimal clothing when they were found in the container on Wednesday in Purfleet, Essex.

It is also believed that the Vietnamese migrants are all from the Can Loc district in northern Vietnam and had been 'banging on the doors' for help and had 'foam coming from their mouths' when found.

The latest revelation comes as a 48-year-old man from Northern Ireland was arrested at Stansted Airport on suspicion of conspiracy to traffic people and suspicion of manslaughter.

Vietnamese woman Pham Thi Tra My sent her mother a series of harrowing messages telling her she 'loved her' and was 'dying because she couldn't breathe.'

Her family claim the 26-year-old paid people smugglers £30,000 to travel to the UK via China 'in search of a better life.'

Police and forensic officers investigate a lorry in which 39 bodies were discovered in the trailer on Wednesday. Sources have now claimed that bloodied hand marks were found inside

Pham Thi Tra My (left) had texted her mother whilst taking the journey to the UK. The family of Nguyen Dinh Luong (right) are also concerned for his safety

Forensic officers are pictured above doing a full sweep of the lorry which had been carrying the migrants across the world

The Vietnamese migrants are all thought to have travelled from the same district, the Can Loc district, which is pictured right. In text messages sent at 10.28pm GMT on Tuesday, Pham Thi Tra told her mother, 'I love you so much...I'm sorry.' Pictured left, the screenshot of Tra My's last text

Since Wednesday four people have been arrested in connection with the death of the 39 migrants. Police had initially believed they had come from China

Pham's family are believed to be one of ten that have come forward saying that they feared their relatives were missing after the discovery in Essex.

A human rights worker in Vietnam, who was spoken with her family, has revealed that she made the perilous journey because her family was in debt and she was desperately trying to help them.

'She had just returned from Japan where she was working to try and pay off the debt. And that was not enough and so she looked for a better future,' she told the BBC.

Asking to remain anonymous, the human rights worker continued: 'For this girl it is very sad that she took the risk because she was dealing with debt that was created by another man in the family.

'And I also learnt that the service that she was using was called 'very important service' and so it is like a business class ticket on the lorry and with that she had to pay double or three times the price of the cheap ticket.'

At least six of those found in the container may have been Vietnamese and new reports from the BBC now claim that a 20-year-old man is also feared to be one of the victims.

Relatives of Nguyen Dinh Luong told the broadcaster that he may be one of those found in the container. His family claimed they received urgent messages from two phones relating to Nguyen.

His father Nguyen Dinh Gia said his son told him two weeks ago he planned to travel to Britain from France, where he had been living illegally since 2018.

He said he would pay 11,000 pounds ($14,000) for the journey.

But Gia got a call several days ago from a Vietnamese man saying 'Please have some sympathy, something unexpected happened,' he told AFP.

'I fell to the ground when I heard that,' Gia told AFP.

'It seemed that he was in the truck with the accident, all of them dead,' he added.

His father told The Associated Press he had not been able to reach him since last week. He had said he would join a group in Paris that was trying to reach England.

'He often called home but I haven't been able to reach him since the last time we talked last week,' Nguyen Dinh Gia said. 'I told him that he could go to anywhere he wants as long as it's safe. He shouldn't be worry about money, I'll take care of it.'

He said his son left home in central Ha Tinh province to work in Russia in 2017, then on to Ukraine. In April 2018, he arrived in Germany then traveled to France. He told his family that he wanted to go to the U.K.

Luong's older brother, Pham Dinh Hai, said that Luong had a tattoo of praying hands on a cross on his right shoulder. The family said they shared the information with local authorities.

This is while a third Vietnamese family said a 19-year-old woman was missing after calling relatives at 6.20am on Tuesday to say she was getting into a container and was turning her phone off.

Vietnam's embassy in London said it had received requests from Vietnamese families asking for help in finding out whether their relatives were among the victims found dead in the back of the truck.

Last night, sources told the Mirror that emergency teams responding to the call from driver Maurice 'Mo' Robinson found hand prints on the doors of the container.

'When the door of the container was opened, first responders were shocked to see dozens of dead bodies piled on top of one another.

'The bodies closest to the doors had foam coming from their mouths and were in the early stages of rigor mortis.

'There were bloody handprints all along the inside of the lorry door where they must have been banging for help.'

The area the Vietnamese migrants are thought to have hailed from has suffered hardship in recent years following an environmental disaster in 2016.

The region had relied on fishing as a main source of income and a chemical spill wiped out around 125 miles of coastlines. Since then there has been a rise in migration in the area, with many moving away to find work.

As details of the migrant's perilous journey continue to emerge, a French state prosecutor in Boulogne-sur-Mer has told The Times of how migrants were sometimes lured into such lorries not realising how cold it would become inside.

He said that smugglers persuaded migrants to enter by setting the temperature at minus 4C 'because no one would get in at minus 20C. They tell these people: 'Look, it's not that cold, all you need to do is to wrap up warmly'. But when they get to the port they turn the temperature to minus 20C because they know that police officers would find it suspicious if they saw a refrigerated lorry with a temperature of minus 4C.'

Pham Thi Tra My sent her mother a series of harrowing text messages telling her she 'couldn't breathe' whilst in the container

Her family said 26-year-old Tra My paid £30,000 to travel to the UK via China 'in search of a better life' for herself

The 39 desperate stowaway migrants were locked up in the trailer (above). It is unclear how long they had been in there for but it is believed to be at least 15 hours

As well as the arrest at Stansted, a husband and wife, thought to be the last known owners of the lorry, were arrested on Friday after police swooped on their Cheshire home, three days into the biggest murder investigation in Britain since 7/7.

Joanna Maher, 38, and her husband Thomas, also 38, from Warrington, are understood to have been held on suspicion of conspiracy to traffic people and on suspicion of 39 counts of manslaughter.

Pham Thi Tra's last text messages were sent at 10.28pm BST on Tuesday - two hours before the truck reached the UK, as it was en route from Belgium.

Pham Thi Tra told her mother: 'I'm sorry Mum. My journey abroad hasn't succeeded. Mum, I love you so much. I'm dying because I can't breathe.'

Tra My's brother told the BBC on Friday that his sister had told them not to contact her because 'the organisers' did not allow her to receive calls.

He said she flew to China from her home in Can Lộc, a rural district of Hà Tĩnh Province in Vietnam, then left for France and initially attempted to cross the border into the UK on October 19, but 'got caught' and turned back.

Tra My is thought be among the eight women and 31 men who were discovered inside the 'metal coffin' lorry container on Wednesday morning. The Vietnamese families of a 26-year-old man and a 19-year-old woman have also contacted the BBC raising fears they could be among those dead.

Bernie Gravett, a former Metropolitan police officer who now advises the EU on human trafficking, said families trying to help their loved ones travel abroad would pay large sums of money to smugglers.

He told BBC Breakfast: 'In Vietnam it is assessed at 20 to 30,000 US dollars, from China it's 40 to 50,000 US dollars.'

Mr Gravett said identifying the victims found in Essex would be a hard and long process due to the possible use of false identification documents and the numbers of people travelling to Europe.

He said: 'It's a cruel stage for the families, because hundreds if not thousands are currently on those routes, so I appreciate we are getting calls from Vietnam saying my loved one is missing and my loved one may be on that lorry but they could be on another lorry.

'These lorries are coming through on a weekly basis, we have just found one, others get through undetected and the victims then go on to be exploited in the UK.'

Mr Gravett added: 'Victims will be given fake documents, so with Chinese generally they are given Korean documents or other documents depending on the country of destination.

'Most often they are stripped of all documentation so that when they get to the UK then documents are provided relating to this country.'

Liu Xiaoming, the Chinese Ambassador to the UK, said in a tweet: 'Latest report from the Minister-Counsellor of my Embassy: Essex police emphasised they are still verifying the identity of the 39 deceased.

'We are waiting for the police to identify the victims. This is a number one priority.'

The report has emerged from Human Rights Space, a civic network based in Vietnam, but there has not yet been any further verification of its claims, or those of her brother.

Hoa Nghiem from HRS said: 'It was told on the news that all 39 people were Chinese but Tra My's family is trying to verify if their daughter was among them as the last dying text from her was coincidentally in time.

'Our contact is getting more alerts that there could be more Vietnamese people in the truck.'

Police previously said the eight women and 31 men were all believed to be Chinese nationals, but claims have now surfaced online that some may have been from Vietnam.

The Vietnamese Embassy in London confirmed it has contacted police in regard to Tra My. A spokesman for the embassy said they had been contacted by a family in Vietnam which claimed their daughter had been missing 'since the lorry was found'.

The map above shows the perilous 5,000 mile journey the 39 migrants would have taken to get to the UK having paid 'snakehead' gangsters £20,000 for the privilege

Private Ambulances arriving at Tilbury Port to remove the remaining victims from the container on Friday morning

The spokesman said: 'We have contacted Essex Police and we are waiting for an answer.'

Joanna Maher, 38, and her husband Thomas, also 38, from Warrington, are understood to have been held on suspicion of conspiracy to traffic people and on suspicion of 39 counts of manslaughter.

The couple told MailOnline that they sold the lorry cab a year ago to a company in Ireland - but police officers investigating the tragedy raided their property yesterday. The refrigerated trailer carrying the 39 frozen trafficking victims is believed to be owned by a rental firm in Dublin.

A Cheshire Police patrol car arrived at the Irish couple's house at 7am on Thursday before up to a dozen police officers went inside at around Midday - just before the arrests were announced. The pair have not been seen.

Earlier this week Mrs Maher told MailOnline: 'It's the cab - my name was down as owning it.

'We did own it but sold it 13 months ago', adding they sold it to a company in County Monaghan, close to where truck driver Maurice 'Mo' Robinson, 25, lives.

Police are also questioning the Northern Irish trucker for the third day with a decision on whether to charge him with murder or release him.

An Essex Police spokesman said: 'We have carried out warrants in Cheshire as part of the investigation into 39 bodies being discovered in a lorry trailer in Grays.

'As a result, a 38-year-old man and a 38-year-old woman from Warrington have been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to traffic people and on suspicion of 39 counts of manslaughter. A 25-year-old man, the driver of the lorry, remains in custody on suspicion of murder'.

The container carrying migrants had previously criss-crossed the Channel via refugee hotspots in the week before it arrived in Britain with 39 frozen bodies inside, perhaps for several days, it was revealed yesterday.

Yesterday their bodies were moved by private ambulance from Tilbury docks to Chelmsford mortuary for post-examinations that will run into next week.

This harrowing image shows a fleet of private ambulances arriving at Tilbury Docks to take away the victims on Friday

Final journey: How the 39 tragic migrants ended up in Purfleet, Essex, dead in the back of a refrigerated biscuit lorry

The industrial estate where the 39 migrants were found frozen to death in the back of a lorry remains sealed off on Friday as police questioned the driver for a third day

Police at the Warrington home of Joanna Maher, 38, and her husband Thomas, also 38, yesterday where the couple are understood to have been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to traffic people and on suspicion of 39 counts of manslaughter

Police the home of Joanna and Thomas Maher who were the last named owners of the lorry which was found containing 39 migrants

Robinson arrived in the UK at the weekend after a ferry from Dublin to Holyhead. He picked up the trailer, which had been shipped from Zeebrugge to Purfleet. Minutes later, he pulled into the Essex industrial estate and the alarm was raised

Two houses have been raided by police in Northern Ireland - one belonging to the lorry driver in Markethill and the other belonging to his parents in Laurelvale, both Co Armagh. A third house in Armagh City has also been raided


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