WTF, 有完没完了，下周又罢工两天, PD day 一天

[gocanoeing]

哪个服务行业不是这样啊？ 也不是哪个服务行业都这么高工资的

不能把老师和餐厅服务员类比吧，毕竟老师的入门要求还是比较高的

 

[gocanoeing]

加拿大和安省应该马上立法，关于国家民生行业的工会（比如医生，政府，警察，教师，邮局，水电气 垃圾等行业），无权组织罢工！
太贪婪了，教师行业有那么高的年薪，一年还休几个月的带薪假。不行就让贤，竞争上岗，有的是新移民愿意从事教育业，还可以带来好的教育精神和习惯。对孩子要求也比当地人更严格和好，这才是加拿大优胜略汰更进步的有国际竞争能力的未来，而不是职业水平不高却贪婪的没有职业牺牲精神的人教出整天罢工的孩子的懒惰落后的国家未来。

加拿大宪法规定，罢工是每个人都有的权利

不让罢工也行，比如警察就法定不能罢工，但那样雇主雇员双方就得接受强制仲裁，最后仲裁结果出来是什么就是什么，没有讨价还价的余地

 

[gcy1208]

不能把老师和餐厅服务员类比吧，毕竟老师的入门要求还是比较高的

我看现在的小学老师水平真不咋地。就剩个学历撑门面了

 

[gocanoeing]

其实很多讨论老师罢工的都没有抓到重点，总之不能因为你不方便了就要修改宪法吧

前几天CBC有一篇文章很精辟，指出对任何罢工，政府都有权通过复工法律，违法的话将会有高额罚款，但是由于罢工是宪法规定的权利，所以只能在非常特殊的情况下才可剥夺。那么对中小学教育而言，什么才是非常特殊的情况呢，该文指出一般如果学期无法按期完成，影响升学，就非常可能构成特殊情况造成省政府通过复工法律。这也是为什么老师只是一次罢工一两天，而不是无限期罢工的原因。

 

[gocanoeing]

我看现在的小学老师水平真不咋地。就剩个学历撑门面了

习总也差不多

 

[gcy1208]

习总也差不多

我没接触过习总，只见过孩子学校里的小学老师。

 

[gocanoeing]

我没接触过习总，只见过孩子学校里的小学老师。

合理猜测，小学教师都有和习总差不多的水平了，要知福惜福啊

 

[gcy1208]

合理猜测，小学教师都有和习总差不多的水平了，要知福惜福啊

建议你也偶尔换换脑子

 

[gcy1208]

为什么初中高中不罢工？

 

[lindamy]

为什么初中高中不罢工？

前不就也罢工了，轮流。

 

[gcy1208]

前不就也罢工了，轮流。

哦，那到底是啥诉求？

 

[New Person]

哦，那到底是啥诉求？

Still, there remains plenty in dispute between the ETFO and the province, chiefly:

• The government wants to limit the wage increase to one per cent annually, while the union wants a wage hike that meets the inflation rate.
• The government wants to change a rule that requires principals to choose from only the most senior teachers in the supply pool when hiring for long-term and permanent teaching jobs.
• The union says the government's proposal for special education funding is less than half what was in its 2017 collective agreement.
• The union wants enhancements to benefits. It's not clear how big an ask this is, but government officials hint that it's on the pricey side.

These gaps are not impossible for the two sides to bridge. But it's hard to conceive how it actually happens.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-teacher-strike-etfo-analysis-osstf-oecta-1.5453447

 

[gcy1208]

Still, there remains plenty in dispute between the ETFO and the province, chiefly:

• The government wants to limit the wage increase to one per cent annually, while the union wants a wage hike that meets the inflation rate.
• The government wants to change a rule that requires principals to choose from only the most senior teachers in the supply pool when hiring for long-term and permanent teaching jobs.
• The union says the government's proposal for special education funding is less than half what was in its 2017 collective agreement.
• The union wants enhancements to benefits. It's not clear how big an ask this is, but government officials hint that it's on the pricey side.

These gaps are not impossible for the two sides to bridge. But it's hard to conceive how it actually happens.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-teacher-strike-etfo-analysis-osstf-oecta-1.5453447

除了第三条看上去还算比较正常的诉求，其他三条看上去政府的做法很合理啊

 

[地坛北里]

用教育的名义要求涨工资。
渥太华中学教师平均工资已经10万了

一年还有近三個月的假期，人心不足

 

[New Person]

除了第三条看上去还算比较正常的诉求，其他三条看上去政府的做法很合理啊

这要看立场。站在雇员的立场，自然希望年薪增长高于通货膨胀率，否则实际收入在下降。但作为雇主，自然希望付给的工资越少越好。没法调和的矛盾。