卡尔顿和渥太华大学在最新的Maclean排名中几乎掉到了最后

[happy_guy]

最初由 acetone 发布


He is from National Research Council, not OU or CU

呵呵，没错

 

[土鳖虫]

最初由 gdntfrank 发布
Ranking canadian schools are really meaningless.
You won't see any difference from No 5 to No 20.
All the canadian schools (except UT) ranked between 20-50 in US.

说对加拿大大学排名无意义是一种夸张，如果真是那样，卡尔顿和渥太华大学对这次
最新的Maclean排名就完全不必care. 可事实恰恰相反。你说的加拿大大学在美国排
名只在20-25之间倒恰恰是一种无意义。知道原因吗？美国的名校95%是私立学校，
而排名也只在这些私立学校之间进行。而通常的州立(公立)大学是不可能入围前20名
的。但在加拿大就不同了，加国只有公立大学，把加拿大的大学等同于美国一般公
立大学是无意义的。

 

[gdntfrank]

最初由 土鳖虫 发布


说对加拿大大学排名无意义是一种夸张，如果真是那样，卡尔顿和渥太华大学对这次
最新的Maclean排名就完全不必care. 可事实恰恰相反。你说的加拿大大学在美国排
名只在20-25之间倒恰恰是一种无意义。知道原因吗？美国的名校95%是私立学校，
而排名也只在这些私立学校之间进行。而通常的州立(公立)大学是不可能入围前20名
的。但在加拿大就不同了，加国只有公立大学，把加拿大的大学等同于美国一般公
立大学是无意义的。

You misunderstood me. All the universities in NA is included in the ranking.
Those TOP schools like MIT. stanford, University of California all included.

We don't care about the ranking. Since overall ranking means nothing. We just
curious how they get the ranking. Can you explain why MacMaster is ranked so
low?

 

[pandora]

没希望了没希望了
转学转学

 

[土鳖虫]

最初由 gdntfrank 发布


You misunderstood me. All the universities in NA is included in the ranking.
Those TOP schools like MIT. stanford, University of California all included.

We don't care about the ranking. Since overall ranking means nothing. We just
curious how they get the ranking. Can you explain why MacMaster is ranked so
low?

你被误导了。McMaster 的综合排名在第四，其他项目也在前五左右。请参看最新一
期(上星期五)中华导报。楼下某人的贴子有误。

 

[stjoseph]

实在难以置信,不知道他们怎么评的.我个人觉得OU和CARLETON这两年很有进步.校长们该管管了,不能让他们随便贬低学校的名誉.

 

[stjoseph]

不管排名有没有意义,再可笑的排名也会影响学校的声誉.

最初由 土鳖虫 发布


说对加拿大大学排名无意义是一种夸张，如果真是那样，卡尔顿和渥太华大学对这次
最新的Maclean排名就完全不必care. 可事实恰恰相反。你说的加拿大大学在美国排
名只在20-25之间倒恰恰是一种无意义。知道原因吗？美国的名校95%是私立学校，
而排名也只在这些私立学校之间进行。而通常的州立(公立)大学是不可能入围前20名
的。但在加拿大就不同了，加国只有公立大学，把加拿大的大学等同于美国一般公
立大学是无意义的。

 

[Biochemistry]

最初由 土鳖虫 发布


Maclean的大学排名是比较权威的，而且一般来说是可信的。据我所知，大学排名的
主要依据是教授们在一流科学期刊上的论文数，被引用数，科研成果的获奖级别和
数量等。而学生的入学数量并非是主要衡量依据。举个例子，被Maclean排名在前五
名的大学通常都有一至数名教授在重大的专业领域中获奖或被提名。例如，多大的
诺贝尔奖获得者通常保持在五名以上，而获提名者就更多了。相比之下，卡尔顿和
渥太华大学的教授们有吗？我好像没听说。

Dr. Tito Sciano from the department of Chemistry had won the highest prize for a chemist in the world, that prize is one of the requirement to be nominated by the Nobel Prize. one of the Dean of the Faculty of Science from the University of Ottawa made the most contribution to morden organic chemistry and he was nominated for the Nobel Prize in Chemistry but unfortunately, he died before the award was announced.

U of O has the most funding in research, together with UOBRI (university of ottawa biotechnology insititute) and NRC, U of O is just as good as U of T in terms of research. you can find the last year's Mclean's description of the Medical school, the Eye institute is well knonw not only NA but all over world. one of the critical gene responsible for Lung Cancer was sequenced and mapped by the University of Ottawa Medical School. U of O and U of T are the only two world-wide well known RESEARCH CENTERS in canada.

one of the reason why this year U of O went down is due to the "residency" category. since from last year, the position for MD graduates starts to drop in Ontario, but there was a increase in demand of MD graduates in Quebec, so most of the MD graduates from U of Ottawa went to McGill to get PhD or work in the hosiptals in Quebec. so the In-province residency score for U of O is lower compared to U of T, but the enterence score and rate is much harder for Medical school here at U of O than at U of T.

another reason is due to the double cohort. according the news from SSAS and Housing Service, the amount of new students admitted by every ontario university is averaged out based on the size of the university, for example, U of T, Western and McMaster shoud accept more students than U of O, Queen's. but Western said that they can't make enough spaces for the pre-calculated number of new students, so they sent all the students to U of O, most of whom are with a low enterence mark.

moreover, from my experiences, all my classes are taught by Professors, but in U of T, in the first two years, 25% of the classes are taught by instructors.

the last but not least, after all, it all comes down to how much effort you put into your study. nobody really cares where you get your first degree, as long as it is a recognized university. you don't go to the "best" (yet there isn't best, but always better), but you go to the "most fitted".

cheers

 

[Biochemistry]

but for international students who don't want to get a master or a PhD rite after the bachelor degree, maybe transfer to a school with a better NAME will be better off economically. cuz you pay about the same tuition and you get a degree which "sounds" better.

and for those who is really thinking of transferring, i think Queen's is the best buy.

cheers

 

[acetone]

最初由 Biochemistry 发布


Dr. Tito Sciano from the department of Chemistry had won the highest prize for a chemist in the world, that prize is one of the requirement to be nominated by the Nobel Prize. one of the Dean of the Faculty of Science from the University of Ottawa made the most contribution to morden organic chemistry and he was nominated for the Nobel Prize in Chemistry but unfortunately, he died before the award was announced.

U of O has the most funding in research, together with UOBRI (university of ottawa biotechnology insititute) and NRC, U of O is just as good as U of T in terms of research. you can find the last year's Mclean's description of the Medical school, the Eye institute is well knonw not only NA but all over world. one of the critical gene responsible for Lung Cancer was sequenced and mapped by the University of Ottawa Medical School. U of O and U of T are the only two world-wide well known RESEARCH CENTERS in canada.

one of the reason why this year U of O went down is due to the "residency" category. since from last year, the position for MD graduates starts to drop in Ontario, but there was a increase in demand of MD graduates in Quebec, so most of the MD graduates from U of Ottawa went to McGill to get PhD or work in the hosiptals in Quebec. so the In-province residency score for U of O is lower compared to U of T, but the enterence score and rate is much harder for Medical school here at U of O than at U of T.

another reason is due to the double cohort. according the news from SSAS and Housing Service, the amount of new students admitted by every ontario university is averaged out based on the size of the university, for example, U of T, Western and McMaster shoud accept more students than U of O, Queen's. but Western said that they can't make enough spaces for the pre-calculated number of new students, so they sent all the students to U of O, most of whom are with a low enterence mark.

moreover, from my experiences, all my classes are taught by Professors, but in U of T, in the first two years, 25% of the classes are taught by instructors.

the last but not least, after all, it all comes down to how much effort you put into your study. nobody really cares where you get your first degree, as long as it is a recognized university. you don't go to the "best" (yet there isn't best, but always better), but you go to the "most fitted".

cheers

YOu must be kidding to use "world-wide well known RESEARCH CENTERS in canada" to descirbe OU.

OU is really good at research on eye and heart, but in terms of many other researh fields such as chemistry, biology, it is far away behind UT, McGill, Queens and Albert, etc..

In terms of research centers in Canada, pls never forget NRC.

 

[Biochemistry]

i have talked to many professors from different institutions and universities, i just simply forward their messages. and to me, lots of my profs and some of my friend who are PhD students here at UO are from Harvard, Cambridge, U of T.....
UO does have the most funding in research, it's on Mclean's. but i still doubt the reliability of this ranking though. this ranking has been criticized a lot in the States, UK and even in Aussie.

 

[Biochemistry]

for chemistry, i don't think it's worthy for my prof to lie to the entire class. so believe it or not, what i just said about the contributions in chemistry from U of O were correct. if you don't believe me, just go to the Faculty of Science and ask for any prof in Chem Department. or you can simply go visit Prof. Ogilvie

 

[Biochemistry]

one more thing, the teaching lab in U of T sucks big time. but after all, U of T is still a good one. especially for its Engineering Science program and Human biology program. they are as popular as the Biochem, Biopharm, Biotech and Biomed here in U of O. the enterence rate for Biomed program in 100/1500 this year.

 

[Biochemistry]

yeah NRC is good, in the sense that it allows a lot of science students at U of O to experience the new discoveries in sciences.

 

[acetone]

最初由 Biochemistry 发布

UO does have the most funding in research,

If this is true, many of UO's professors should feel sorry for their producing efficiency from the funding.