瑞典到底是不是达到了herdImmunity?兼谈美国加拿大

看不懂?

那我简化给你们看。

第一波冲击力巨大。不能搞交流群体免疫。那是对弱势群体的定向清除。

第二波冲击减缓。感染人数多。但重症死亡率低。这是规律。

目前没有特效药。疫苗在WHO和服气眼里都不是终极武器。

最终群体免疫也许是各国都必须达成的状态。

covid年代。看待群体免疫,用科学的眼光。用人道的态度。

切忌用左右来判断病毒, 病毒不分左右。

切忌用政治来指定对策,疫情不懂政治。
 
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昨天纽约州的测试结果,可以达到群体免疫了吗?

纽约州州长安德鲁·库莫(Andrew Cuomo)昨天报告了636例Covid-19病例,另外4人死于该病毒。

这位州长说,该州昨天对72,668人进行了检测-阳性感染率为0.87%

库莫说:“我们的进步归功于纽约人的辛勤工作-即使在重新开放两个半月之后,人数仍继续下降。”


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New York reports a .87% positivity rate after completing more than 70,000 tests in one day
From CNN's Sheena Jones

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo reported 636 additional cases of Covid-19 and 4 deaths from the virus yesterday, a press release from the governor's office said.
The governor said the state tested 72,668 people yesterday — a 0.87% positive infection rate.

"Our progress is thanks to the hard work of New Yorkers — even after two and a half months of reopening, the numbers have continued to go down," Cuomo said.
 
代价:佛罗里达新冠病毒的死亡,43%与长期护理院有关。

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43% of Florida's Covid-19 deaths linked to long-term care facilities
From CNN's Rosa Flores and Sara Weisfeldt

In Florida, 43% of all Covid-19 deaths are linked to long-term care facilities, according to data released by the Florida Department of Health.

To date, 3,155 out of 7,402 total deaths are associated with long-term care facilities in the state of Florida, according to the department's data.

The list of long-term care facilities with active Covid-19 cases is available here, and the list of long-term care facilities with deaths is available here, which is updated weekly.
 
先不提变异,不到半年研究出的平价疫苗谁第一个用?我不会。你也不会。
群体免疫是方向。
 
印尼? 早期使用羟氯喹的电视报道.

 
印度报道30个国家求印度出口HCQ

 
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ndia expands use of controversial drug for coronavirus despite safety concerns
Top medical agency says its studies show hydroxychloroquine can prevent infection, but regulators in other countries are investigating adverse effects.

Priyanka Pulla

Man wearing face mask and rubber glove holding out strip of tablets.

In India, the use of hydroxychloroquine as a preventive measure for COVID-19 is being recommended to more people.Credit: Sajjad Hussain/AFP/Getty
UPDATE: On 4 June, a study reporting that hydroxychloroquine is dangerous to people with COVID-19, referenced in this article1, was retracted. See 'High-profile coronavirus retractions raise concerns about data oversight'.
As safety concerns prompt several countries to reconsider the controversial use of a malaria drug to treat COVID-19, India’s government is recommending that front-line workers take the medicine to prevent infection. Researchers say the advice is premature and risky, because there is limited evidence that the drug, hydroxychloroquine, works against the new coronavirus, and there are a growing number of reports that it can trigger serious side effects.
There is no vaccine for the new coronavirus, so the prospect of a widely available drug such as hydroxychloroquine — and a similar compound, chloroquine — reducing infection risk is appealing, especially in parts of India where high population density makes social distancing difficult. Many people around the world, including US President Donald Trump, have taken the drug in the hope it might prevent infection. But, at this stage, there is almost no evidence that the drug works in this way, and the results of several randomized and placebo-controlled prophylaxis trials under way in the United States, Europe and South Asia have not been published.

Coronavirus and COVID-19: Keep up to date
So far, almost all the data on the drug’s safety and efficacy come from studies that tested hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19. The latest of these is a global observational study in The Lancet that reportedly looked at 96,000 people with COVID-19. It reported that the drug offered no treatment benefit, and that people who took it were more likely to die than those who didn’t1.
Scientists have since raised serious concerns about the study's data and analysis, given that few other studies have linked hydroxychloroquine with a high mortality rate. Today, the journal issued an Expression of Concern, and noted that an independent audit of the data has been commissioned. But the findings had already prompted health regulators in several countries, and the World Health Organization, to pause enrolment in trials of the drug last week.
The situation with the drug is far from clear-cut. The Lancet study isn’t the first to document the drug’s adverse effects. Several randomized and observational studies of the drug published in the past two months have also found adverse effects, including diarrhoea and heart-rhythm abnormalities, while reporting conflicting results about the drug’s efficacy.
Recommendation extended
Despite the lack of clear evidence that the drug is safe or protects people from coronavirus infection, on 22 May an Indian health ministry task force released the advice for front-line workers, including the police and people conducting door-to-door surveys to estimate the COVID-19 burden to take hydroxychloroquine to prevent infection. The advice expands on a similar recommendation, made in March, in which the task force said that health-care workers caring for people with COVID-19, and household contacts of people with confirmed COVID-19, should also take the drug.
The task force says its latest decision is based on three new observational studies, conducted by government agencies, that it says show that the anti-malarial drug can prevent infection.

Dozens of coronavirus drugs are in development — what happens next?
Only one of these studies has been published, on 31 May2, which compared people with the disease to those without it, known as a case-controlled study.Scientists at the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) looked at whether more than 300 health-care workers who had caught the virus were more or less likely to have taken hydroxychloroquine than a similar number of health-care workers who hadn’t caught the virus. The study found that those who caught the virus were less likely to have taken the drug.
But several scientists say these findings don’t mean much. A case-controlled study cannot determine whether the drug actually prevented infection, says Joseph Cheriyan, a clinical pharmacologist at the University of Cambridge, UK. Only a randomized controlled trial, in which people are randomly chosen to take the drug or the placebo, and followed up to determine their risk of acquiring the disease, can answer this question, he says.
At best, the study’s findings justify further research, but they aren’t strong enough to support the government’s recommendation, says Sahaj Rathi, a New-Delhi-based transplant hepatologist. “I was looking for evidence to justify the advisory, but I don’t see that,” he says.
Samiran Panda, the director of the ICMR’s National AIDS Research Institute in Pune and the lead author of the study, says the trial was designed to investigate the drug’s public-health relevance, and not to find conclusive evidence of its efficacy.
The head of the ICMR, Balram Bhargava, who is based in New Delhi, has said previously that it would have been unethical to do such a study and deny some people the drug, given that it could be beneficial.
Safety concerns
But a randomized trial is also important to assess a drug’s safety, particularly if a medicine is being recommended to healthy people to prevent infection, rather than to treat a disease, says Rathi. “Here we are giving a medicine, which carries a small but known risk of side effects, to healthy people.”
The ICMR says it does have some safety data, from an unpublished observational study of 1,323 health-care workers who took the drug prophylactically. The agency reports that 1.7% of people experienced hypoglycaemia and 1.9% had cardiovascular effects. It concludes that the drug is “relatively safe”.

How countries are using genomics to help avoid a second coronavirus wave
But scientists question this assessment. A roughly 2% rate of cardiovascular side effects or hypoglycaemia is high for a drug when there is a lack of rigorous evidence that it works, says Shriprakash Kalantri, an internal-medicine specialist at the Mahatma Gandhi Institute of Medical Sciences in the Indian state of Maharashtra.
Bhargava told Nature that the task force behind the government’s latest advisory did consider the drug’s side effects. The government recommends that people taking hydroxychloroquine get an electrocardiogram at some point during the weeks-long drug regimen to check for any heart-rhythm abnormalities.
Big consequences
Doctors worry that the government’s latest advice will create an overly optimistic perception of the drug, given the environment of panic surrounding the virus. When the ICMR started recommending the drug in March, doctors warned that this would trigger indiscriminate hydroxychloroquine use.
Those concerns have largely been borne out. In Mumbai, health authorities initially prescribed the drug to children, contrary to the ICMR’s advice, and considered a plan to give the drug to people under 55 years old in COVID-19 hotspots, such as Mumbai’s Dharavi — one of Asia’s most densely populated slums. This plan was later shelved, but state authorities continue to give the drug to household contacts of confirmed patients.
Yogesh Jain, a Chhattisgarh-based public-health expert, says he is especially concerned about the use of a potentially ineffective drug among poor people without sufficient monitoring.
“You are just heaping misery on more people by adding them to an advisory which was not based on any scientific foundation,” says Jain.
 
印度。10几亿人口,高密度城市,低素质平民,不卫生的生活习惯,巨大的贫富差距,一切一切都预示着印度必须死的比美国惨得多!

印度在防疫条件上,没有任何优势,

除了一点,印度是HCQ生产大国,印度一直鼓励使用HCQ防疫抗毒。

美国因为各种政治话的丑态闹剧,是的HCQ很难拿到。结果呢

对比一下。
 
加拿大医生轻症开hcq 吗?还是就太诺硬抗?
 
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Former FDA commissioner says US should not model Sweden's Covid-19 response
From CNN Health's Jacqueline Howard

Dr. Scott Gottlieb, commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, testifies during a House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing concerning federal efforts to combat the opioid crisis on October 25, 2017 in Washington.


Dr. Scott Gottlieb, commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, testifies during a House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing concerning federal efforts to combat the opioid crisis on October 25, 2017 in Washington. Drew Angerer/Getty Images

Sweden should not be America's model for pandemic response, Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former commissioner of the US Food and Drug Administration, wrote in an op-ed for The Wall Street Journal on Sunday.

Some people have pointed to Sweden as a successful model for the softening of guidelines – but Gottlieb wrote that the United States should continue focusing on containing the spread of the novel coronavirus that causes Covid-19.
"Swedish government officials initially sought to let the virus run largely unchallenged in the general population while taking steps to protect the elderly. The Swedish view was that the country could reach herd immunity without jeopardizing the economy. But holding up Sweden as an enlightened model misreads important parts of its experience," Gottlieb wrote in the op-ed.
"Many Swedes pulled back from normal activities to shelter themselves from infection anyway, even younger and middle-aged people. The country experienced 5,821 Covid deaths in a population the size of North Carolina. And Sweden is far short of herd immunity, even as the country’s economic recovery ranks among the worst in its region," Gottlieb wrote.

"Yet embrace of the 'Swedish model; is based on assumptions that sidestep some of these facts. The biggest misconception is a belief that there’s a large reservoir of Americans who are already immune to Covid," Gottlieb wrote. "Confronting a dangerous pandemic requires containing spread wherever it is reasonably possible. Sensible measures such as universal masking, testing and widespread and rapid contact tracing can help. The best way to protect the vulnerable is to try to protect everyone."
 
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