堂堂总统的电话,是不是被何方神圣窃听了?昨天给乔治亚州务卿打了一小时电话 'I just want to find 11,780 votes'

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就我这英语水平,你们太抬举我了!:evil: 刚才两边骂的不可开交的,我估计管理员删了好几页,害得我白爬了半天,其实这问题的核心就是这“删节版”是否忠实于“原作”,两边好像忽略了这个问题。

如果没有时间听一小时的完整电话录音,可以看看这篇长文,这不是fake news而是Foxnews. 美国很多人不再相信媒体,但是这个录音是总统自己的话,不是无信源的媒体故事,也不是民主党的攻击。总统一再根据一些传言,声称已经赢了乔治亚州,但是经过多次重数,上诉了几十个案子,包括两个递交到最高法院的案子都被拒绝了。​


但是总统和某些人仍然继续坚持那些没有根据的rumours,这是对选举的亵渎。

这个电话在总统认为是perfect 的,和给乌克兰总统的电话一样。实际上不是,都已经超越了法律界限,没有被弹劾下来,不是因为他无辜,而是因为共和党在参议院占多数。

Trump’s damaging Georgia call isn’t media unfairness—it’s his own words​

This was not a “perfect” call, as Trump repeatedly said of the conversation with Ukraine’s president that led to his impeachment.​


By Howard Kurtz | Fox News

The story isn’t based on anonymous sources, turncoat accusers, or bitter ex-aides. It isn’t a hyper-partisan attack by Democrats or an unfair indictment by media detractors.

President Trump’s own words, in an hour-long call meant to pressure Georgia’s Republican secretary of state into reversing the election results, are damning enough.

When the Washington Post first postedfive minutes of excerpts from the call to Brad Raffersperger, some Trump defenders online accused the paper of selective editing. But the Post soon released the entire audio, which contained other damaging quotes.

FILE: President Donald Trump speaks at a campaign rally for Senate Republican candidates Sen. Kelly Loeffler, R-Ga., and Sen. David Perdue, R-Ga., at Valdosta Regional Airport, in Valdosta, Ga.

FILE: President Donald Trump speaks at a campaign rally for Senate Republican candidates Sen. Kelly Loeffler, R-Ga., and Sen. David Perdue, R-Ga., at Valdosta Regional Airport, in Valdosta, Ga. (AP)

Let me pause here to acknowledge that much of the country doesn’t trust the media, and that Trump has the right to legally press his case. As dozens of federal and state judges have rejected his lawsuits, along with two failed Supreme Court appeals, his side’s refrain has been that the evidence hasn’t been "heard" – but the lack of evidence has actually been rejected on both substantive and procedural grounds.

In states such as Georgia, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, there have been numerous recounts and audits that have not changed the Joe Biden victories there. The president has gone a step further, pressing Republican state lawmakers to invalidate the results in key states. And in a groundswell initially underestimated by the media, Trump’s Republican allies in Congress plan to reject the Electoral College results tomorrow, an effort that is destined to fail.

It was against that backdrop that the president called a top Georgia official the day after New Year’s. For those who remain skeptical of the press accounts, listen to the full audio, read the transcript, and make up your own minds.

Raffensperger, who stood his ground, has said he leaked the tape of the call only after Trump mischaracterized their conversation in a Sunday tweet: "He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the ‘ballots under table’ scam, ballot destruction, out of state ‘voters’, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!"

There are many quotes that capture the way Trump pressured, cajoled and at times pleaded with Raffensperger to do his bidding, but none more clearly than this:

"So, look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state."

And he warned Raffensperger – at one point putting him on notice – that if he didn’t "find" thousands of Fulton County ballots said without evidence to have been destroyed, the secretary would be legally liable.

"That’s a criminal offense," Trump said. "And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer."


If that isn’t a threat, it’s a pretty good imitation.

At other points he scolded the Republican official as a "child" and "either dishonest or incompetent."

Along the way, Trump claimed he won Georgia by "hundreds of thousands of votes," that this was demonstrated by his rallies, and cited what the president himself called a "rumor" about shredded ballots in Fulton County.

From the Post: "He floated a barrage of assertions that have been investigated and disproved: that thousands of dead people voted; that an Atlanta election worker scanned 18,000 forged ballots three times each and ‘100 percent’ were for Biden; that thousands more voters living out of state came back to Georgia illegally just to vote in the election.

"So tell me, Brad, what are we going to do? We won the election, and it’s not fair to take it away from us like this...I think you have to say that you’re going to reexamine it, and you can reexamine it, but reexamine it with people that want to find answers, not people who don’t want to find answers."

Trump also kept bringing up the impact on today’s twin Senate runoffs in Georgia.

Raffensberger and his attorney say repeatedly that the president’s data are wrong, that no Dominion voting machines were moved out of Fulton, that they have repeatedly found no fraud after lawsuits and recounts.

This was not a "perfect" call, as Trump repeatedly said of the conversation with Ukraine’s president that led to his impeachment.

Legal experts are debating whether the call might have been illegal, but there’s no question that Trump, joined by chief of staff Mark Meadows, was engaged in an attempt at "flipping the state" – those are the president’s words – through political pressure.

DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKERS WANT CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO TRUMP CALL WITH GEORGIA ELECTION OFFICIALS

On "Fox & Friends" yesterday, Steve Doocy said of the call: "So far we haven’t seen the evidence." The conservative editorial pages of the New York Post and Wall Street Journal, like Fox owned by Rupert Murdoch, have demanded that Trump drop his fraud claims and concede the election. And in a Washington Post op-ed, the 10 living former defense secretaries – including Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, and ex-Trump appointees Jim Mattis and Mark Esper – say "the time for questioning the results has passed."

They are referring in part to the growing contingent of Republican lawmakers who will refuse tomorrow to accept the Electoral College results in what is usually a mere formality.

The media initially portrayed this as a few fringe characters like Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas. But when Sen. Josh, R-Mo., and then Ted Cruz signed on, backed by 10 senators and more than 100 House members, it became clear this was a severe miscalculation. This is now a movement, albeit one that has badly divided the Republican Party.

While the letter led by Cruz, who wants a special commission to audit key states, says "the allegations of fraud and irregularities in the 2020 election exceed any in our lifetimes," ex-speaker Paul Ryan says it’s "difficult to conceive of a more anti-democratic and anti-conservative act."

Cruz and company know their crusade will fail because Democrats control the House. And yes, the media weren’t concerned when some rebellious Dems forced the same congressional debate in 2005. But in that case, John Kerry had long since conceded to President George Bush.

While Biden will be sworn in 15 days from now, that doesn’t mean these efforts aren’t tearing at the fabric of American democracy. The GOP may have lowered the bar, emboldening the Democrats to try similar tactics in some future contested election. And given Donald Trump’s hold on much of the Republican Party, a substantial chunk of the country will continue to believe the election was stolen, despite what Brad Raffensperger says.

 

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需要38票,为啥只盯着一个州?


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需要38票,为啥只盯着一个州?


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我认为因为只有这个州完全是共和党的,总统也多次提醒州务卿:你是共和党的,即使这州翻盘也不够,但是以他的执着精神,马上会宣布,存在明显的选举舞弊,需要重数,甚至完全推翻选举结果。只有这唯一的耍赖方法能够翻盘了。
 

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川总WON A LOT,但是票不够,所以这一定是史上最大选举舞弊,所以要翻盘,看川总能不能创历史 :D
 

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Top federal prosecutor in Georgia resigns with little explanation​

Pak, who is originally from South Korea, immigrated to the U.S. when he was 9 years old​

By Vandana Rambaran | Fox News

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A top federal prosecutor in Georgia who was appointed by President Trump resigned Monday, offering little explanation for his sudden departure.

U.S. Attorney Byung J. "BJay" Pak did not offer insight into why he was leaving his post after less than four years, or where he was going next, but thanked Trump for "the greatest honor of my professional career," according to a statement provided by the Justice Department (DOJ).

"I have done my best to be thoughtful and consistent, and to provide justice for my fellow citizens in a fair, effective and efficient manner," Pak said. "I am grateful to President Trump and the United States Senate for the opportunity to serve, and to former Attorneys General [Jeff] Sessions and [William] Barr for their leadership of the Department."

Pak, who is originally from Seoul, South Korea, immigrated to the U.S. when he was 9 years old, and served as a Republican state representative in Georgia from 2011 to 2017, prior to being appointed by Trump.

The DOJ did not respond to Fox News' request for comment about Pak's announcement, which came a day after a newly leaked phone call between Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger surfaced. The Washington Post obtained the call and published the full transcript, which revealed the president urging the secretary of state to "find" enough votes to reverse the state's election results.

Trump -- who has refused to concede the election to President-elect Joe Biden -- told the Republican secretary of state: "All I want to do is this. I just want

The call has drummed up backlash from both sides of the aisle, with many lawmakers and officials decrying Trump's efforts to pressure state officials over the election results, which have been verified three times.

On Monday, two House Democrats, with the backing of several others, asked FBI Director Christopher Wray to open a criminal investigation into the phone call to probe potential election interference by Trump.

Meanwhile, Raffensperger, speaking to ABC's "Good Morning America," did not dismiss the possibility that the Fulton County district -- where Trump has claimed ballots were destroyed and voting machines tampered with -- could pursue a possible investigation into the president's phone call, as well.

 

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Top federal prosecutor in Georgia resigns with little explanation​

Pak, who is originally from South Korea, immigrated to the U.S. when he was 9 years old​

By Vandana Rambaran | Fox News

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A top federal prosecutor in Georgia who was appointed by President Trump resigned Monday, offering little explanation for his sudden departure.

U.S. Attorney Byung J. "BJay" Pak did not offer insight into why he was leaving his post after less than four years, or where he was going next, but thanked Trump for "the greatest honor of my professional career," according to a statement provided by the Justice Department (DOJ).

"I have done my best to be thoughtful and consistent, and to provide justice for my fellow citizens in a fair, effective and efficient manner," Pak said. "I am grateful to President Trump and the United States Senate for the opportunity to serve, and to former Attorneys General [Jeff] Sessions and [William] Barr for their leadership of the Department."

Pak, who is originally from Seoul, South Korea, immigrated to the U.S. when he was 9 years old, and served as a Republican state representative in Georgia from 2011 to 2017, prior to being appointed by Trump.

The DOJ did not respond to Fox News' request for comment about Pak's announcement, which came a day after a newly leaked phone call between Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger surfaced. The Washington Post obtained the call and published the full transcript, which revealed the president urging the secretary of state to "find" enough votes to reverse the state's election results.

Trump -- who has refused to concede the election to President-elect Joe Biden -- told the Republican secretary of state: "All I want to do is this. I just want

The call has drummed up backlash from both sides of the aisle, with many lawmakers and officials decrying Trump's efforts to pressure state officials over the election results, which have been verified three times.

On Monday, two House Democrats, with the backing of several others, asked FBI Director Christopher Wray to open a criminal investigation into the phone call to probe potential election interference by Trump.

Meanwhile, Raffensperger, speaking to ABC's "Good Morning America," did not dismiss the possibility that the Fulton County district -- where Trump has claimed ballots were destroyed and voting machines tampered with -- could pursue a possible investigation into the president's phone call, as well.


看来,辞职是条路。
 

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我想看看自定义头衔到底能有多少字。继续加,看系统什么时候把这个字符串截断。呃,居然还有?那就继续吧。
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还在纠缠这个?

热点已经过了!大家move on了。
 

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其它州也在搞,没有录音你不知道而已,只不过这个州出了个叛徒

文件都确认发出了,死猪。
 
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