中东巨变： 沙特和核武国巴基斯坦正式结成军事同盟

[dreamland]

巴基斯坦成了中东国家的救星。巴基斯坦实际领导者陆军元帅也参加了签字。

Saudi Arabia signs mutual defence pact with nuclear-armed Pakistan​

Pact declares any attack on Saudi Arabia or Pakistan an attack on both, deepening shared security alliance.

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and Pakistan Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif embrace each other on the day they sign a defence agreement, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, September 17, 2025 [Saudi Press Agency/Handout via Reuters]

By Usaid Siddiqui and Reuters
Published On 17 Sep 202517 Sep 2025
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Saudi Arabia and nuclear-armed Pakistan have signed a formal mutual defence pact, state media from both countries said, in a move that significantly strengthens a decades-long security partnership.

“This agreement, which reflects the shared commitment of both nations to enhance their security and to achieving security and peace in the region and the world, aims to develop aspects of defense cooperation between the two countries and strengthen joint deterrence against any aggression. The agreement states that any aggression against either country shall be considered an aggression against both,” a joint statement published on Wednesday said, according to the Saudi Press Agency.

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The defence pact was based on the “historic partnership” between the two countries, the statement said, and “shared strategic interests and close defence cooperation”.

During their meeting in Riyadh on Wednesday, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif “discussed ways to enhance the strategic partnership between the two brotherly countries across various fields”, SPA said.

“They also exchanged views on regional and international developments, issues of common interest, and the efforts aimed at achieving security and stability.”




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Sharif is currently on a state visit to Saudi Arabia.

“This agreement is a culmination of years of discussions. This is not a response to specific countries or specific events but an institutionalisation of longstanding and deep cooperation between our two countries,” a senior Saudi official told the Reuters news agency when asked about its timing.

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“This is a comprehensive defensive agreement that encompasses all military means,” the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said when asked whether the mutual defence pact included the use of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons if necessary.

The agreement between the two nations comes two days after an extraordinary joint session between the Arab League and the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) was called, in the wake of Israel’s attack on the Qatari capital Doha on September 9.

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Arab and Islamic nations widely condemned Israel’s attack, which targeted members of Hamas’s political leadership as they gathered to discuss a US-backed ceasefire proposal.

The senior Saudi official did emphasise that his country’s relationship with nuclear-armed India remained strong. India and Pakistan fought a brief war in May.

“Our relationship with India is more robust than it has ever been. We will continue to grow this relationship and seek to contribute to regional peace whichever way we can,” the official said.

Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have enjoyed close trade and military ties going back decades.

Since 1967, Pakistan has trained more than 8,200 Saudi armed forces personnel, and the two sides have also held several joint military exercises.

 

[dreamland]

中国的先进武器将借着巴基斯坦之手间接进入中东。不用直接和以色列美国冲突。以前如果直接出口面临巨大政治和商业风险。现在中国的先进军品在国际市场的地位就和之前欧洲的军品类似了，成了一种中性工具，中小国家很难直接阻止了。这次借着卡塔尔被以色列攻击，是个很好的借口，美国欧洲还真无法反对。

中国还可以通过武器适用范围准证和配件控制军品使用范围，作为自己的一种和美国俄罗斯谈判的高级工具。上海和深圳市场的军工股票要留意了。

昨天有个新闻就是巴基斯坦总统参观成飞和沈飞的工厂。估计是确保货源吧，中国武器其实需要一个试验场。

美国就尴尬了。刚和巴基斯坦走得很近，川普的外交有失控的风险。

之前几个月中国和巴基斯坦之间关于中国军品JF17在巴基斯坦的工厂技术被泄露，中国大为不满， 当时巴基斯坦自己也没有钱买中国工厂出厂的。现在卡塔尔被以色列轰炸事件，就基本把海湾国家的顾虑全部扫清。估计就是巴基斯坦直接从中国采购，然后巴基斯坦倒卖到海湾。海湾土豪有的是钱，巴基斯坦可能成为独立的中国武器承销商和提供培训配件的服务商，中国就可以淡出直接冲突的危险。

 

[chicago666]

提前为三战布局

 

[chatbot]

有点远见的国家都在布局，川大总统还在忙着卖自己币呢

 

[dreamland]

提前为三战布局

中国其实并不是主动布这个局，对以色列和中东这些冲突，中国一致比较保守，避免直接军售。
毕竟之前中国的军武在国际市场是边缘地带，也没有大宗大额军品特别有竞争力。

今年的57空战是标志性事件，是中国高端军品的DEEPSEEK时刻，即使这样，中国在中东地区军品的直接销售还是非常谨慎。不希望冲到直接冲突的前沿。

现在这局面是以色列（在美国默认下）拱手送出来的。冒天下之大不韪，直接攻击西方还认可的“盟国”的卡塔尔，跨越了红线，让美国之前50-70年在海湾国家建立的军事保护石油美元体系面临崩塌。

中国这些年花这么多钱搞得国防高科技产业，如果不能把缩减版在国际市场变现，从资本运营角度算是埋没的国家成本，现在中国境内的经济各种因素下萎缩，这部分未能即使收回成本或得到利润国资资产占相当比例。

通过巴铁转售可以很好的盘活这些国资资产和变现，和资金回笼，增加就业。即使海湾中东国家真的用这些中国高端武器和他们发生冲突，中国也有一个很好的合理的缓冲，避免直接冲突。

 

[chatbot]

中国其实并不是主动布这个局，对以色列和中东这些冲突，中国一致比较保守，避免直接军售。
毕竟之前中国的军武在国际市场是边缘地带，也没有大宗大额军品特别有竞争力。

今年的57空战是标志性事件，是中国高端军品的DEEPSEEK时刻，即使这样，中国在中东地区军品的直接销售还是非常谨慎。不希望冲到直接冲突的前沿。

现在这局面是以色列（在美国默认下）拱手送出来的。冒天下之大不韪，直接攻击西方还认可的“盟国”的卡塔尔，跨越了红线，让美国之前50-70年在海湾国家建立的军事保护石油美元体系面临崩塌。

中国这些年花这么多钱搞得国防高科技产业，如果不能把缩减版在国家市场变现，从资本运营角度算是埋没国家成本，现在中国境内的经济各种因素下萎缩，这部分未能即使收回成本或得到利润国资资产占相当比例。

通过巴铁转售可以很好的盘活这些国资资产和变现，和资金回笼，增加就业。即使海湾中东国家真的用这些中国高端武器和他们发生冲突，中国也有一个很好的合理的缓冲，避免直接冲突。

搞那么多对中国老百姓有啥好处呢？

 

[MAP2012]

某些人会突然爱好和平

 

[土拨悬铃木]

搞那么多对中国老百姓有啥好处呢？

石油、天然气。还有来自中东王爷们的大量低息贷款。

 

[dreamland]

搞那么多对中国老百姓有啥好处呢？

参考一下美国的军工体系吧，每年给美国带来4250亿美元的GDP, 雇佣了220万人。每年出口总值1500亿美元

这就是一种良性循环，外贸得到的利润回补国防军工体，减少了国家的政府补贴，增加了就业， 平衡了外贸。

对中国来说还有另外的意义，军工体系的壮大和财政良好，可以留下更高级人才高智高知毕业生一方面贡献才华，另一方面也在经济上得到不明显差于外企的收入。几年前，（还不是57空战后），在军工体系的收入非常好，有稳定收入，不用总想着跳巢，买几套房很平常的事情了，根本不比去外企或私企的差。


U.S. “military-industrial complex” is big, diffuse, and measured different ways (spending vs. company value added vs. employment vs. exports). Below I’ll give a concise outline of the main sub-sectors, then the best current numbers available for (a) economic/GDP contribution, (b) employment, and (c) defence/arms exports — with short notes about definitions and caveats.

1) High-level outline (what the U.S. military-industrial complex includes)​

• Aerospace & defense prime contractors (airframes, engines, avionics — e.g., Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon). Aerospace Industries Association+1
• Land systems and vehicles (Tanks, tactical vehicles, armour, ground systems). CSIS
• Naval shipbuilding and marine systems (shipyards, subs, surface combatants). CSIS
• Missiles, munitions, space systems, and ISR (satellites, launch services). SIPRI
• Cybersecurity, intelligence services, defense IT & systems integration, and professional services (consulting, logistics, maintenance). CSIS
• Small/medium suppliers (components, electronics, machine shops) plus a wide supply chain of subcontractors and service providers. Aerospace Industries Association

2) Economic contribution — aggregate value added / GDP impact​

• The American aerospace & defense (A&D) industry generated roughly $425 billion in economic value (reported as “economic value” by the industry group for the 2023/2024 period), which AIA states is about 1.6% of U.S. nominal GDP (2023 basis). That number covers aerospace + defense activity reported by AIA and is a standard high-level industry metric. Aerospace Industries Association
• The Department of Defense and national security agencies drive hundreds of billions in annual purchasing — analyses put DoD + national security agency spending at more than $800 billion in recent years (order-of-magnitude comparable to ~2–3% of U.S. GDP depending on the year and exact accounting). This is the government spending side that the industry supplies into. CSIS+1

Caveat: “Economic value” reported by trade groups and government spending figures use different accounting methods (value-added vs. procurement obligations vs. open case FMS values). Don’t treat them as a single aggregate without reconciling methodology. Aerospace Industries Association+1

3) Employment (direct + supply chain)​

• The A&D sector supported more than 2.2 million jobs across direct and indirect roles (supply chain included) in 2023/2024; AIA reports around 914,000 direct jobs in the industry with the remainder being indirect/induced. Of those direct jobs roughly ~54% (≈ 494k) are in defense & national security subsectors (AIA split). Aerospace Industries Association+1

Caveat: Different sources report either “direct only” or “direct + indirect + induced.” BLS and other labour reports may break out more granular occupational categories. Bureau of Labor Statistics

4) Arms / defence exports​

• The United States is by far the world’s largest exporter of major arms. SIPRI reports the U.S. accounted for about 43% of global major arms exports during 2020–24. SIPRI+1
• U.S. official reporting on foreign military sales and defense trade shows very large volumes: for FY2024 the State Department noted thousands of FMS cases with an open case value in the hundreds of billions (the FY2024 oversight report referenced open case values of over $845 billion in active FMS portfolio and reported annual new case/sale figures in the ~$100–$150 billion range depending on how sales are counted). (See FY2024 U.S. Arms Transfers and Defense Trade). State Department

Caveat: “Exports” can be measured as (a) SIPRI trend indicator values of major arms; (b) official USG Foreign Military Sales (FMS) contract/Case values; or (c) Department of Commerce/ Census merchandise exports classifications. These will give different dollar figures because they capture different baskets of goods/services and timeframes. SIPRI+1

5) Other useful summary metrics & fiscal impacts​

• A&D industry tax contribution: trade data from AIA noted the A&D industry contributed tens of billions in federal tax receipts (AIA gave a figure of ~$56.8 billion in federal receipts in their 2024 facts & figures summary). Aerospace Industries Association
• U.S. share of global military spending: the U.S. accounts for a very large share of world military expenditure (roughly ~40% of global military spending in recent years, by some measures). This drives the size of the industrial base. Peterson Foundation+1

6) Quick numeric snapshot (rounded, sources & year)​

• Economic value (A&D industry): $425B (~1.6% of 2023 U.S. GDP). Aerospace Industries Association
• Employment: ~2.2 million total (direct + indirect); ~914k direct jobs (AIA). Aerospace Industries Association+1
• Annual U.S. military/DoD spending: hundreds of billions; defense budgets in the $700–900B range in recent fiscal years (DoD + national security agencies spending estimates exceed $800B in some counts). USAFacts+1
• Arms exports: U.S. ≈43% of major-arms market (2020–24 SIPRI window); annual reported new major deals in the $100–150B range in big years (FY reporting / FMS case flows). SIPRI+1

7) Key caveats (why numbers vary)​

• Definitions differ. “Defense industry” may be limited to firms that build weapons, or expanded to all aerospace and security services — trade groups like AIA use industry membership definitions; SIPRI measures “major arms transfers.” Aerospace Industries Association+1
• Counting method. “Employment” can be direct only, or include subcontractors and induced jobs. “Exports” can be measured by delivered value, contract value, or SIPRI’s trend indicator. Aerospace Industries Association+1
• Timing. Many statistics are reported with a 1–2 year lag; SIPRI’s dataset through 2024 was released in 2025, AIA’s figures reference 2023/2024. Use the year label when quoting. SIPRI+1

 

[欢乐灌水]

中国崛起是必然了，美国大概国运有此一劫，就此走下坡路了，美国政府就是一个草台班子，总统身边全是马屁精，打压不同政见者，没人敢发不同的声音，最近epstein的事情是不是也很非常搞笑？议长出来说trump是卧底，fbi头又说只有epstein一个人涉案，抢着洗白trump，也不管说出来的话是不是相互矛盾了。

 

[chatbot]

石油、天然气。还有来自中东王爷们的大量低息贷款。

难道中国老百姓的油气比国外的便宜，贷款利率更低？

 

[chatbot]

参考一下美国的军工体系吧，每年给美国带来4250亿美元的GDP, 雇佣了220万人。每年出口总值1500亿美元

这就是一种良性循环，外贸得到的利润回补国防军工体，减少了国家的政府补贴，增加了就业， 平衡了外贸。


U.S. “military-industrial complex” is big, diffuse, and measured different ways (spending vs. company value added vs. employment vs. exports). Below I’ll give a concise outline of the main sub-sectors, then the best current numbers available for (a) economic/GDP contribution, (b) employment, and (c) defence/arms exports — with short notes about definitions and caveats.

1) High-level outline (what the U.S. military-industrial complex includes)​

• Aerospace & defense prime contractors (airframes, engines, avionics — e.g., Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon). Aerospace Industries Association+1
• Land systems and vehicles (Tanks, tactical vehicles, armour, ground systems). CSIS
• Naval shipbuilding and marine systems (shipyards, subs, surface combatants). CSIS
• Missiles, munitions, space systems, and ISR (satellites, launch services). SIPRI
• Cybersecurity, intelligence services, defense IT & systems integration, and professional services (consulting, logistics, maintenance). CSIS
• Small/medium suppliers (components, electronics, machine shops) plus a wide supply chain of subcontractors and service providers. Aerospace Industries Association

2) Economic contribution — aggregate value added / GDP impact​

• The American aerospace & defense (A&D) industry generated roughly $425 billion in economic value (reported as “economic value” by the industry group for the 2023/2024 period), which AIA states is about 1.6% of U.S. nominal GDP (2023 basis). That number covers aerospace + defense activity reported by AIA and is a standard high-level industry metric. Aerospace Industries Association
• The Department of Defense and national security agencies drive hundreds of billions in annual purchasing — analyses put DoD + national security agency spending at more than $800 billion in recent years (order-of-magnitude comparable to ~2–3% of U.S. GDP depending on the year and exact accounting). This is the government spending side that the industry supplies into. CSIS+1

Caveat: “Economic value” reported by trade groups and government spending figures use different accounting methods (value-added vs. procurement obligations vs. open case FMS values). Don’t treat them as a single aggregate without reconciling methodology. Aerospace Industries Association+1

3) Employment (direct + supply chain)​

• The A&D sector supported more than 2.2 million jobs across direct and indirect roles (supply chain included) in 2023/2024; AIA reports around 914,000 direct jobs in the industry with the remainder being indirect/induced. Of those direct jobs roughly ~54% (≈ 494k) are in defense & national security subsectors (AIA split). Aerospace Industries Association+1

Caveat: Different sources report either “direct only” or “direct + indirect + induced.” BLS and other labour reports may break out more granular occupational categories. Bureau of Labor Statistics

4) Arms / defence exports​

• The United States is by far the world’s largest exporter of major arms. SIPRI reports the U.S. accounted for about 43% of global major arms exports during 2020–24. SIPRI+1
• U.S. official reporting on foreign military sales and defense trade shows very large volumes: for FY2024 the State Department noted thousands of FMS cases with an open case value in the hundreds of billions (the FY2024 oversight report referenced open case values of over $845 billion in active FMS portfolio and reported annual new case/sale figures in the ~$100–$150 billion range depending on how sales are counted). (See FY2024 U.S. Arms Transfers and Defense Trade). State Department

Caveat: “Exports” can be measured as (a) SIPRI trend indicator values of major arms; (b) official USG Foreign Military Sales (FMS) contract/Case values; or (c) Department of Commerce/ Census merchandise exports classifications. These will give different dollar figures because they capture different baskets of goods/services and timeframes. SIPRI+1

5) Other useful summary metrics & fiscal impacts​

• A&D industry tax contribution: trade data from AIA noted the A&D industry contributed tens of billions in federal tax receipts (AIA gave a figure of ~$56.8 billion in federal receipts in their 2024 facts & figures summary). Aerospace Industries Association
• U.S. share of global military spending: the U.S. accounts for a very large share of world military expenditure (roughly ~40% of global military spending in recent years, by some measures). This drives the size of the industrial base. Peterson Foundation+1

6) Quick numeric snapshot (rounded, sources & year)​

• Economic value (A&D industry): $425B (~1.6% of 2023 U.S. GDP). Aerospace Industries Association
• Employment: ~2.2 million total (direct + indirect); ~914k direct jobs (AIA). Aerospace Industries Association+1
• Annual U.S. military/DoD spending: hundreds of billions; defense budgets in the $700–900B range in recent fiscal years (DoD + national security agencies spending estimates exceed $800B in some counts). USAFacts+1
• Arms exports: U.S. ≈43% of major-arms market (2020–24 SIPRI window); annual reported new major deals in the $100–150B range in big years (FY reporting / FMS case flows). SIPRI+1

7) Key caveats (why numbers vary)​

• Definitions differ. “Defense industry” may be limited to firms that build weapons, or expanded to all aerospace and security services — trade groups like AIA use industry membership definitions; SIPRI measures “major arms transfers.” Aerospace Industries Association+1
• Counting method. “Employment” can be direct only, or include subcontractors and induced jobs. “Exports” can be measured by delivered value, contract value, or SIPRI’s trend indicator. Aerospace Industries Association+1
• Timing. Many statistics are reported with a 1–2 year lag; SIPRI’s dataset through 2024 was released in 2025, AIA’s figures reference 2023/2024. Use the year label when quoting. SIPRI+1

听着全是好处，咋美国撤退了呢

 

[土拨悬铃木]

难道中国老百姓的油气比国外的便宜，贷款利率更低？

你不是问对中国有什么好处吗？

好处就是，中国将获得稳定且廉价的石油天然气， 以及资金支持。

正是因为中国老百姓的油气不比沙特等中东国家的便宜， 所以才会支持巴铁去打通中东渠道， 从此获得廉价稳定的能源呀。

很难理解吗？

 

[TrumpEstate]

中国的先进武器将借着巴基斯坦之手间接进入中东。不用直接和以色列美国冲突。以前如果直接出口面临巨大政治和商业风险。现在中国的先进军品在国际市场的地位就和之前欧洲的军品类似了，成了一种中性工具，中小国家很难直接阻止了。这次借着卡塔尔被以色列攻击，是个很好的借口，美国欧洲还真无法反对。

中国还可以通过武器适用范围准证和配件控制军品使用范围，作为自己的一种和美国俄罗斯谈判的高级工具。上海和深圳市场的军工股票要留意了。

昨天有个新闻就是巴基斯坦总统参观成飞和沈飞的工厂。估计是确保货源吧，中国武器其实需要一个试验场。

美国就尴尬了。刚和巴基斯坦走得很近，川普的外交有失控的风险。

之前几个月中国和巴基斯坦之间关于中国军品JF17在巴基斯坦的工厂技术被泄露，中国大为不满， 当时巴基斯坦自己也没有钱买中国工厂出厂的。现在卡塔尔被以色列轰炸事件，就基本把海湾国家的顾虑全部扫清。估计就是巴基斯坦直接从中国采购，然后巴基斯坦倒卖到海湾。海湾土豪有的是钱，巴基斯坦可能成为独立的中国武器承销商和提供培训配件的服务商，中国就可以淡出直接冲突的危险。

应该还可以利用收入维持不断创新，保持先进。

 

[chatbot]

你不是问对中国有什么好处吗？

好处就是，中国将获得稳定且廉价的石油天然气， 以及资金支持。

正是因为中国老百姓的油气不比沙特等中东国家的便宜， 所以才会支持巴铁去打通中东渠道， 从此获得廉价稳定的能源呀。

很难理解吗？

现在不通吗？