撞车后警察给我一张罚单

[oread]

最初由 孤星夜雨 发布
If you know it is your fault, please don't waste others' time and abuse the system. Learn good manner.

去年保险业盈利26亿，比02年涨了775%倍您不会不知道吧？
别大义凛然的，您要是觉得您觉悟高，最好干脆把明年保险也替楼主交了吧

p.s. Good manner正是您缺乏的。

 

[oread]

您能告诉我您在您家窗外能看到什么吗？我们是在同一个地球上吗？
100块罚款事小，保险费可是无底洞！
您听说过: play by the rule吗？:blink:

最初由 孤星夜雨 发布
人还是应该做到在第1个例子, 主动把100块补上. 做人不能没有原则. 贪小便宜的人, 永远成不了什么样子, 还往往最后吃大亏.

 

[Teddy]

Re: same accident.

楼主要以后多注意这个问题,幸好没有受伤. 我在两年前卷入一个同样性质的事故, 对方是 QUEBEC 老太, 就是这种"从不安全的位置启动", 估计我不会撞她, 从路肩启动后并作 U turn, 被我的车撞的一塌胡涂, 需要救火员将车门劈开, 勃子被剥离划伤, 很悬哪. 我当时视线有点被她后面的 BUS 遮挡, 也没注意到她的车, 就感觉车前排山倒海般压过一辆车, 踩死刹车后还是眼铮铮地看见我的车把对方的车挤扁了... 事故调查: 她就称我太快了, 但经别人作证和警察判断, 判定我当时的速度仅有 35KM/H.

结果是: 老太身体无碍, 包扎后送医院处理, 车子估计大修或报废(拖走了); 老太负全责, 得和楼主一样的 ticket, 并被警察起诉. 我的车头灯破碎, 车身须bodyshop, 修车带租车将近四千块.

经验: (1) 看见老太要特别小心, 尤其是 QUEBEC 老太, 因为我仅有的两次事故都是 QUEBEC 老太造成的. (第二次是刚路边趴车在一老太后面, 熄了火, 她老人家居然倒起了车, 发车是来不及了, 只的按喇叭, 也不管用了.) - 所以, 看见老太趴车, 前空一个lot, 不要熄火,随时准备倒挡避让.
(2) 美国车真结实啊! 我的车刚碎了一个头灯, 对方的车就抽抽了.

楼主呢, 该打官司呢照打不误, 有责任并不是说就不能得到适当的考虑,但以后一定要注意了:不可性急! 我的故事, 给大家乐乐.

 

[一把手]

看起来楼主应该负全责,可能是因为经验不足吧.这次就当买个教训.而且所幸人都没有事.

上庭可能使这此的教训的代价小些.

另外,楼主还觉得自己没有错,驾照是怎么考的?从路旁上路时最重要的就是看清有没有从后面上来的车.

 

[register0001]

认栽吧，去年吃过同样的单子，对方闯停牌，超速，穿拖鞋驾驶，但是事故发生后数分钟从对面赶来两位千里眼证人一口咬定我没有留足够距离才导致对方追尾。
我报案两次，警方因事故太小不接案，对方报案一次，警方立刻就传本人问话。对方一个89SunBird的小磕碰索赔高达1600，足够买一个半同样的车了。
上庭好不容易摆平（律师驳倒两位千里眼可是费了不少功夫）最后还是改判我违章停车，对方的错因无证人，且警方不愿追究，当然没事。
最后较罚款，保险公司照涨保费。花律师费350，好处是抹掉了扣分。
在人屋檐下不得不低头啊。

 

[南山下]

你这明摆耍赖

1. 首先, 这是他和警察的事, 和保险没什么关系. 这你要搞清楚, 不要偷换主题

2. 就算保险赢利, 就可以减我们保险吗? 没看见 Minto 赢利, 就减房价. 也没看见邻居开 Mercedes, 我可以过去也开两天.

3. 好奇的问, 按你算法, 涨了7倍多才赢利 26 亿, 是不是以前就亏本.

4. 平心而论, 如果保险整个行业才赢利 26 亿, 不算很多. 保险业有多少人? 你可以算一下平均人创造的赢利, 不见得有眼镜行多. 当然, 每个人都不想涨保险. 我们能做的就是象楼主这样的人少出事. 让别人不赚钱, 谁来投资这个行业?

5. 退一千万步讲, 如果保险不当赢利或者暴利, 那是政府的事. 一是不允许垄断和底下联手, 二是开放市场竞争. 真正自由的市场, 价格反映市场规律.

6. 不明白你为什么鼓励楼主这种人, careless driver 应该付出代价. 最好的办法是他替我们交保险, 而不是我替他交. 你这是黑白不分, 气急败坏!鄙视你!

最初由 渐渐 发布


去年保险业盈利26亿，比02年涨了775%倍您不会不知道吧？
别大义凛然的，您要是觉得您觉悟高，最好干脆把明年保险也替楼主交了吧

p.s. Good manner正是您缺乏的。

 

[南山下]

你神仙, 他顶多是把罚单去掉, 如果警察不上庭的话.

他没有一点可能把事故责任去掉. 这个不需要上庭. 法庭也不管这个. 保险公司就能决定. 你以为别人是傻的, 人家直行, 你启动出来, 撞了还有可能是人家的责任?

你脑袋进水.保险涨是肯定的.

最初由 渐渐 发布
您能告诉我您在您家窗外能看到什么吗？我们是在同一个地球上吗？
100块罚款事小，保险费可是无底洞！
您听说过: play by the rule吗？:blink:

 

[浪客TANXIN]

上庭是正当的法律途径,应该看作遵纪守法,怎能看作是道德败坏?
我到有个疑问,如果一个事故中,一方付主要责任,一方次要责任,那么保险公司是否都做为FAULT CLAIM ?

 

[南山下]

如果你明明是错误, 应该交罚款, 你上法庭只不过是拼警察不来. 如果警察不是忙, 他会不来吗? 自己做错还想赖, 你说是不是浪费别人的时间, 滥用公币?

学车的时候, 师傅说得很清楚. 老外总是有办法分出一个错, 一个对. 不要想着什么次要责任. 只有错的一方负责任.这种 Case 明摆着是楼主的错. 他只不过是想去掉警察的 ticket 而已. 至于保险, 如果对方报了保险公司的话, 他的保险公司是赔定的. 铁板板

最初由 浪客TANXIN 发布
上庭是正当的法律途径,应该看作遵纪守法,怎能看作是道德败坏?
我到有个疑问,如果一个事故中,一方付主要责任,一方次要责任,那么保险公司是否都做为FAULT CLAIM ?

 

[oread]

You are funny, so ignorant but funny. You are confusing 2 events here: conflict between 2 parties involved in an accident (which normally results in small claims court) and conflict between a party and police (which normally results in criminal court).

The question the initial poster asked was: "Should I fight for this traffic ticket?", and that's what we've been discussing here. Everyone knows that a traffic ticket not only demands a fine, but also some infraction points. Those points are what insurance companies use to increase your premium. For the past few years, the increase has been substantial, that's how the insurance companies makde record-breaking profits!

To avoid sky-rocketing premium hike, anyone, I mean sane people, should fight for the traffic ticket for as long as it's humanly possible. In many cases, the infraction points are dropped completely, fine could be reduced or even a complete aquittal. I fought my traffic tickets twice, and had won both times.

So before you jump out and yelling bloody murder, why don't you walk a mile in someone else's shoes for a change?

最初由 孤星夜雨 发布
你神仙, 他顶多是把罚单去掉, 如果警察不上庭的话.

他没有一点可能把事故责任去掉. 这个不需要上庭. 法庭也不管这个. 保险公司就能决定. 你以为别人是傻的, 人家直行, 你启动出来, 撞了还有可能是人家的责任?

你脑袋进水.保险涨是肯定的.

 

[SUPER&ME]

就几个办法:
1.上庭
2.自己摆平
3.不管了,爱咋底怎么底
好处:
1.花时间,钱.运气好,会赢
2.短,平,快
3.每车年检的时候,还得交待

楼主想想自己平时做事的方式.
出事的时候:你
1.喜欢与别人争论吗?
2.自己没注意,喜欢听别人给的注意?
3.懒的想,交钱走人...

看看是那条,就知道该怎么做了.

 

[tetrisfun]

两点：1，她刚从家里Drive Way出来上大路。2，有证人认为她车速过高。
感谢大家发表意见！

 

[lavi007]

1，她已经在大路上了～
2，她也有错～ 但就这个Case来说，是你的错～

 

[南山下]

We have a common agreement on the system that it shall punish the ones who did bad things and protect the ones who did good things. If you were treated unfairly, you are definitely encouraged to defend yourself. On the other hand, you must also understand you shall be responsible and deserve punishment for things you did that were not right.

In this guy's (louzhu) case, the fact he told us apparently indicated that it was totally his fault for the accident. In addition to the responsibility for the accident, he also received a ticket from the police. I didn't see anything wrong with what the police did. The guy (louzhu) absolutely started the car from parked position not in safety. That is the fact and the police issued the ticket merely based on this fact. What are you going to do in the court with this fact? You deny, no ways. Are you recommend him go to court just take the advantage if the police does not present? You are abusing the system becasue you know the fact is the fact. It doesn't change no matter if the police comes or not.

In your cases, what kinds of tickets did you fight for? Speeding, not stop at the line, or parking tickets? If you were treated unfairly, you were right to defend. But if you did violate the rule, you shall be prosecuted. If you don't mind, you are more than welcome to share the details.

Don't be jealous the money insurance companies make. They are not non-profit companies. If accidents decrease, so will the insurance rate. We need more people to drive safely - not only for saving money but also for saving our lives. People shall learn from the tickets. Careless and aggressive driving is just one step away from accident.

Nothing is funny when talking about driving and accident.

最初由 渐渐 发布
You are funny, so ignorant but funny. You are confusing 2 events here: conflict between 2 parties involved in an accident (which normally results in small claims court) and conflict between a party and police (which normally results in criminal court).

The question the initial poster asked was: "Should I fight for this traffic ticket?", and that's what we've been discussing here. Everyone knows that a traffic ticket not only demands a fine, but also some infraction points. Those points are what insurance companies use to increase your premium. For the past few years, the increase has been substantial, that's how the insurance companies makde record-breaking profits!

To avoid sky-rocketing premium hike, anyone, I mean sane people, should fight for the traffic ticket for as long as it's humanly possible. In many cases, the infraction points are dropped completely, fine could be reduced or even a complete aquittal. I fought my traffic tickets twice, and had won both times.

So before you jump out and yelling bloody murder, why don't you walk a mile in someone else's shoes for a change?

 

[南山下]

最初由 tetrisfun 发布
两点：1，她刚从家里Drive Way出来上大路。

## it doesn't matter where she started from as long as she was already on the road, she has the right of way. That is the key point and you shall always yield for other vihecles when you start from parking.

2，有证人认为她车速过高。

## It is very difficult to convice the judge that she was speeding by your witness' feel without an gauge or meter. If a police issues you a ticket for speeding without a laser detector, do you agree with he?

感谢大家发表意见！