精华 讨论:本次美国大选
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这有什么可讨论的,我们又没有选举权.再说了,咱不爱干涉别人的内政.
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But remember the media is biased and therefore, what you hear and
see doesn't represent the truth but the media's preference. On the other side, the most states voting for Bush are in middle and south. People there may not be covered by the media enough. You see those large states like NY, CA, IL all go for Kerry. The conclusion from this election is that no matter who win, people see a deeply divided
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Yes, like any individual person, media is more or less biased, but the majority of the media seem to be anti-Bush.
Keep in mind that those states voted for Bush are mostly the so-called "grassroot" and they define the fundamental value of this country.
Media is actually not that powerful as we thought in a nation that enjoys freedom of speech.
Yes, like any individual person, media is more or less biased, but the majority of the media seem to be anti-Bush.
Keep in mind that those states voted for Bush are mostly the so-called "grassroot" and they define the fundamental value of this country.
Media is actually not that powerful as we thought in a nation that enjoys freedom of speech.
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That's just what I mean, even though the majority media in US seems anti-bush. They may just like to broadcast anti-bush voice and only cover the areas in large cities, which, from the election, support Kerry. But the supporters of Bush are more from countryside and religious people, whether you like to call then grassroot, or I like to call them real consertive, their one vote equals to one vote of a city folk, whose mind may be more open and is more tolerant.
That's just what I mean, even though the majority media in US seems anti-bush. They may just like to broadcast anti-bush voice and only cover the areas in large cities, which, from the election, support Kerry. But the supporters of Bush are more from countryside and religious people, whether you like to call then grassroot, or I like to call them real consertive, their one vote equals to one vote of a city folk, whose mind may be more open and is more tolerant.
the fall of a great empire
this is the start of the falling of a great country. Especially, when the leader of the country only can resolve conflicts by force and when the people in the country only believe they are the greatest and become so arrogant to look down upon any others in the world.
They lost the chance of a change. An opportunity to reassess the global situation and their true situation, the jeopardy that will destroy themselves. Since Bush was their choice, they have to stick on with his wrong policies for anther four years. The outcome can be very dangerous.
No super power will last forever if you look back of the history of mankind. Whenever the greatest turns the blind eyes toward the outside world and whenever the country only care its own interest and abuse others, and finally whenever their only way of dealing with others is by force, it will destroy the greatest itself no matter how glorious it looks like now.
As experts predicted, the nuclear bomb will be dropped to this land sooner or later. And another truly super power is rising. This will open the new chapter of the history of human being. I am sad for Americans and excited to see the new super power, China to replace USA.
this is the start of the falling of a great country. Especially, when the leader of the country only can resolve conflicts by force and when the people in the country only believe they are the greatest and become so arrogant to look down upon any others in the world.
They lost the chance of a change. An opportunity to reassess the global situation and their true situation, the jeopardy that will destroy themselves. Since Bush was their choice, they have to stick on with his wrong policies for anther four years. The outcome can be very dangerous.
No super power will last forever if you look back of the history of mankind. Whenever the greatest turns the blind eyes toward the outside world and whenever the country only care its own interest and abuse others, and finally whenever their only way of dealing with others is by force, it will destroy the greatest itself no matter how glorious it looks like now.
As experts predicted, the nuclear bomb will be dropped to this land sooner or later. And another truly super power is rising. This will open the new chapter of the history of human being. I am sad for Americans and excited to see the new super power, China to replace USA.
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Re: the fall of a great empire
I will be very happy if China rises to the top. Because of all the social problems that exist, I think it will take long time for that to happen. I don't expect to see that in my life time. I hope I am wrong.
I agree with your first part of accessment about the ignorance of many American. But Bush's approval rating on Iraq war is very low, something of 20%? Bush won because of his appeal to the social conservatives who weigh on "moral" values such as abortion and gay marriage over Iraq war and economy. I think churches (Bible belt included of course) played instrumental role for this election . I have a friend who is deep in religion. She said war (Iraq) is good because it creates jobs and money (I guess she meant oil money), among other things (like got rid of Saddam I guess, she didn't go further), and her church urge them to vote for Bush. She is a very nice person by the way, of course believes in no abortion and no gay marriage, etc. Her argument on Iraq war sounded contridct to me, but hey, it is hard argue about religious stuff. Religion is about believing not reasoning.
I will be very happy if China rises to the top. Because of all the social problems that exist, I think it will take long time for that to happen. I don't expect to see that in my life time. I hope I am wrong.
I agree with your first part of accessment about the ignorance of many American. But Bush's approval rating on Iraq war is very low, something of 20%? Bush won because of his appeal to the social conservatives who weigh on "moral" values such as abortion and gay marriage over Iraq war and economy. I think churches (Bible belt included of course) played instrumental role for this election . I have a friend who is deep in religion. She said war (Iraq) is good because it creates jobs and money (I guess she meant oil money), among other things (like got rid of Saddam I guess, she didn't go further), and her church urge them to vote for Bush. She is a very nice person by the way, of course believes in no abortion and no gay marriage, etc. Her argument on Iraq war sounded contridct to me, but hey, it is hard argue about religious stuff. Religion is about believing not reasoning.
本来布什就和恐怖分子没什么区别 ！！！！！！！
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Re: Re: the fall of a great empire
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I will be very happy if China rises to the top. Because of all the social problems that exist, I think it will take long time for that to happen. I don't expect to see that in my life time. I hope I am wrong.
I agree with your first part of accessment about the ignorance of many American. But Bush's approval rating on Iraq war is very low, something of 20%? Bush won because of his appeal to the social conservatives who weigh on "moral" values such as abortion and gay marriage over Iraq war and economy. I think churches (Bible belt included of course) played instrumental role for this election . I have a friend who is deep in religion. She said war (Iraq) is good because it creates jobs and money (I guess she meant oil money), among other things (like got rid of Saddam I guess, she didn't go further), and her church urge them to vote for Bush. She is a very nice person by the way, of course believes in no abortion and no gay marriage, etc. Her argument on Iraq war sounded contridct to me, but hey, it is hard argue about religious stuff. Religion is about believing not reasoning.
Then you point another dangerous trend in US, if people vote just for religious believe,or the power of church can control the outcome of the election of a super power country (I believe it does influence this election by the way) then the foundation of this country has changed from equal human right to religion and they will have all the reason to surpress other religions such as Muslim. I guess if US goes like this, they will turn into anther Germany before world war II, where Jews was considered evil religoin people.
两党之争,竟如此水火不容!
一般来说,美国是一个很现实主义的民族.但此次大选,好像一反常态,以道德标准
,基督狂热,种族主义划线,让共和党独占白宫和两院鳌头.使外人无法相信是发生
在2004年的最发达的美国!
这次大选反映了美国人的狂妄自大
美国人选择了布什是美国人狂妄自大的结果。美国人自以为是世界的救世主，许
多人也把美国人看作是人类民主自由的救星。其实美国所做的一切都是为了美国
。 为了美国的利益他可以抛弃联合国，为了美国的利益他可以不签署许多国际公
约。布什的反恐，反而使世界更不安定了，布什借反恐加强了美国的霸主地位。
中国实际上是欢迎和希望布什连任的
现在我们再来看看布什连任对美国的影响。我的观点是，如果说之前美国还处在
霸权顶峰的话，它的衰退还只是蒙蒙浓浓的前景的话，那么从美国人选择布什连
任的那一刻起，美国人实际上也同时选择了帝国衰退，这个前景已经如此清晰的
在眼前。美国人选择布什实际上除了反恐之外，更是因为美国已经到了危机的边
缘，如果美国不利用反恐战争将危机转嫁出去，那么接下来我们在有生之年（哈
哈，或许不需要这么夸张，3年只内我们就可以看到）就可以看到有史以来最波澜
壮阔的经济破灭了（是不是匪夷所思？这个问题要是深入分析可以写一本书了，
这里就不再说了，哪天另发一文），可以说是历史选择了布什。但是问题就是，
美国目前通过战争并没有将危机转嫁出去，一个伊拉克战争并没有达到目的，那
么美国势必将继续发动新的战争，当然就是接下来的伊朗。目前伊朗问题实际上
已经到了极危险的关头，中美俄欧日围绕这个问题早就展开较量了。问题是，美
国凭什么和这些大国较量？中国有一句古话，“故国虽大，好战必亡”。而美国
现在是，如果不打出去，自己首先就要被经济危机折磨死，如果打出去，自己可
能会被战争拖死。但是不打肯定死，打了还有希望，这样我们就有幸看到了有史
以来最壮观的全球反恐战争，美国在台上台下和各大国接上了火，可以看到，在
未来的几年里，我们将继续看到更精彩的大国争夺战！
