一起小孩在DAY CARE 遭欺负的事
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其实楼主的太太心里很清楚，走廊并不是刑讯室，即使"留在走廊里"，也不会对孩子造成什么伤害，或者楼主的太太心里很清楚，学校不敢怎么样。所以楼主的太太才在"叫出租车"和"留在走廊里"之间，选择了后者。如果楼主的太太真的认为走廊是个刀山火海，而且学校会把孩子留在走廊里，别说叫TAXI，叫飞机都可能。
但是事后楼主在呼唤同情的帖子里，却把走廊暗示成水深火热，并将学校描写成为大灰狼。所以关于走廊的性质和学校是不是在吓唬你，楼主和太太的认识有一定差距，建议楼主在投诉之前，先和太太统一认识。
另外，楼主和太太并不关心别的孩子会不会被传染上。但是如果学校让别的红眼的孩子进了教室，从而使你的孩子冒着被传染的危险，从你的言论推断，估计你肯定会和学校翻脸。
楼主，我说得对吗?
但是事后楼主在呼唤同情的帖子里，却把走廊暗示成水深火热，并将学校描写成为大灰狼。所以关于走廊的性质和学校是不是在吓唬你，楼主和太太的认识有一定差距，建议楼主在投诉之前，先和太太统一认识。
另外，楼主和太太并不关心别的孩子会不会被传染上。但是如果学校让别的红眼的孩子进了教室，从而使你的孩子冒着被传染的危险，从你的言论推断，估计你肯定会和学校翻脸。
楼主，我说得对吗?
首先对不起，您遇到了难题，作为同胞首先应该为你出点主意，
而不是在这里争来争去，只是被那两个叫firestone 和Northeast的假冒北方人的家伙所发表的关于地区的无知偏见所惊讶：中国同胞遇到了问题、心理觉得受了委屈，想上这里来讨个主意却无端遭到及其无理的嘲笑，实在不解和惊讶。
我也认为学校的规矩没有错，但处理方式太生硬，而且既然约你去见校长，不妨准备一下，据理力争，把学校的不是说清楚，至少不能显得自己不是：
1. don't think you can't argue against the policy, but you can make a real case about the way the teacher handled the matter: it was rude, inconsiderate, and totally irresponsible. "you can not agree with me[speaking in your way], but you can't hurt a 4 year tottler, leaving him or threat to leave him unattended, alone in a hallway. This is totally against the trust parents place in this instituation and probably against law. I will have him checked by a physician and reserve the rights to dress this matter through legal venues if my son is in any way harmed, psychologically or physically. According to Environment canada, today's temperature with windchill factored in was -26C[you need to check this up], which can be leathal to a toddler leaft unattended and as result wandering outside the building."
2. "the reason why I sent him back to school withing 24 hrs was the Doctor who took care of my son gave us the clearance to send him back to school"
3. "We wanted to cooperate with the school but the time given for us to come timely to school was unreasonablly short notice and we were not able to comply. In the meantime, your staff threat to leave my son, a 4y old boy unattended in the hallway, knowing he could very well end up anywhere around your premises, including outdoor. this is outrageously irresponsble and dangerous. Even if he did not actually wander outside of the building, leaving him alone in a hallway has ruelly hurt the feeling of a little kid, who thought he might had done something wrong."
4. "as parents, we believe, untill you hand over a child in person to his/her parents, his safety and health risk are under the schools control and we hold the school responsible for any harm my son might've suffered on your premises."
以上只是我的一点建议，别的不谈，就抓住学校威胁把学生扔在走廊里不管，这是不能接受的。总之，千万不要说学校歧视、欺侮中国人，因为这样说话就有点扣帽子之嫌了。
而不是在这里争来争去，只是被那两个叫firestone 和Northeast的假冒北方人的家伙所发表的关于地区的无知偏见所惊讶：中国同胞遇到了问题、心理觉得受了委屈，想上这里来讨个主意却无端遭到及其无理的嘲笑，实在不解和惊讶。
我也认为学校的规矩没有错，但处理方式太生硬，而且既然约你去见校长，不妨准备一下，据理力争，把学校的不是说清楚，至少不能显得自己不是：
1. don't think you can't argue against the policy, but you can make a real case about the way the teacher handled the matter: it was rude, inconsiderate, and totally irresponsible. "you can not agree with me[speaking in your way], but you can't hurt a 4 year tottler, leaving him or threat to leave him unattended, alone in a hallway. This is totally against the trust parents place in this instituation and probably against law. I will have him checked by a physician and reserve the rights to dress this matter through legal venues if my son is in any way harmed, psychologically or physically. According to Environment canada, today's temperature with windchill factored in was -26C[you need to check this up], which can be leathal to a toddler leaft unattended and as result wandering outside the building."
2. "the reason why I sent him back to school withing 24 hrs was the Doctor who took care of my son gave us the clearance to send him back to school"
3. "We wanted to cooperate with the school but the time given for us to come timely to school was unreasonablly short notice and we were not able to comply. In the meantime, your staff threat to leave my son, a 4y old boy unattended in the hallway, knowing he could very well end up anywhere around your premises, including outdoor. this is outrageously irresponsble and dangerous. Even if he did not actually wander outside of the building, leaving him alone in a hallway has ruelly hurt the feeling of a little kid, who thought he might had done something wrong."
4. "as parents, we believe, untill you hand over a child in person to his/her parents, his safety and health risk are under the schools control and we hold the school responsible for any harm my son might've suffered on your premises."
以上只是我的一点建议，别的不谈，就抓住学校威胁把学生扔在走廊里不管，这是不能接受的。总之，千万不要说学校歧视、欺侮中国人，因为这样说话就有点扣帽子之嫌了。
Definitely it's not good to send your kid back to school/daycare on the second day of pink eye, even having doc certificate. You can ask a backup babysiter if you can not take off from your work. I think any family with kids has backup babysiter, sometimes they are relatives, close friends...etc.
事情得看源头，这位父亲来这里抱怨给大家的感觉是[也可能我理解错了但这是我当时的感觉]他认为学校的规矩不对，是冲着中国人来的，是欺负中国人。这就让人觉得不妥了，要知道送孩子上学，理应知道学校对控制传染病的规定，你不知道就把孩子送去了，学校当然恼火，再加上沟通起来肯定有问题，一定与其生硬了。
但花说回来，学校威胁不管孩子肯定有欠职业标准，确有不妥。而且更进而约见接受校长当面训话，显然是轻视移民了。所以我们可以帮他处处注意，到时怎么说，而不是在这冷嘲热讽，更有煞笔在这里发表有关南方人、北方人的地区偏见的高论，那就让人觉得我们这些一开始劝这位当爸爸的冷静下来的人显得更是不对了。
说的有理，这也是学校的失理之处，尤其是这种天气，如果是洋人一定会argue:如果孩子走出了学校校舍那岂不是要“冻死活该”了。
我相信，这里的校长是有水平的，只要你能抓住要害，不要上纲上线，校长是会为那老师说的过激话道歉的。无论如何，孩子无罪，在家长来之前，在学校内校方要对学生的安全负全部责任的。
总之，对这位爸爸的气愤我们理解，所以我在下面除了写馊主意；对于冷嘲热讽的人我与你一道谴责；对于借机发表偏见的我们鄙视。
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先礼, 后兵.
1. 告诉DAY CARE, 你会尽快赶到.
2. 要求与孩子通话, 询问孩子的感受, 告诉孩子你会尽快赶到.告诉孩子有任何要求, 一定要找DAY CARE内的人(可具体到某人)说.
3. 告诉DAY CARE你的个人要求, 如孩子等待之处有无人看护? 有无危险? 孩子所在之处是否是DAY CARE的POLICY规定的唯一等待地点? 可否由DAY CARE的人或TAXI送孩子到你的公司? 孩子有任何要求是否有人负责? 孩子可否有玩具或书(DAY CARE应该会消毒)? ...
4. 尽快赶到. HUG 孩子. 感谢正在看护孩子的人.
5. 询问并要求查看POLICY, 与负责人讨论此事. 如有不满意, 可与社区服务联系, 谈谈你的理由并要求帮助.
个人意见,仅供参考.
1. 告诉DAY CARE, 你会尽快赶到.
2. 要求与孩子通话, 询问孩子的感受, 告诉孩子你会尽快赶到.告诉孩子有任何要求, 一定要找DAY CARE内的人(可具体到某人)说.
3. 告诉DAY CARE你的个人要求, 如孩子等待之处有无人看护? 有无危险? 孩子所在之处是否是DAY CARE的POLICY规定的唯一等待地点? 可否由DAY CARE的人或TAXI送孩子到你的公司? 孩子有任何要求是否有人负责? 孩子可否有玩具或书(DAY CARE应该会消毒)? ...
4. 尽快赶到. HUG 孩子. 感谢正在看护孩子的人.
5. 询问并要求查看POLICY, 与负责人讨论此事. 如有不满意, 可与社区服务联系, 谈谈你的理由并要求帮助.
个人意见,仅供参考.
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今天上午与DAY CARE 的SUPERVISOR 和一个MANAGER (应该是管这个SUPERVISOR的)面谈. SUPERVISOR 试图为她的STAFF 辩解, 但最终MANAGER 还是认为这老师的行为是试图对家长威胁(THREAT), 并当即保证不允许再发生这种事.
临走时,留下一封事先打印好的信, 要求他们:
1. 书面详细解释 11:00AM - 12:00 AM 我儿子的状况, 包括:在那里, 在干什么, 和谁在一起.
2. 书面道歉
3. 书面保证不对任何小孩再发生这种事
等待他们回复中.
详情晚上有时间再谈, 谢谢各位关心!
临走时,留下一封事先打印好的信, 要求他们:
1. 书面详细解释 11:00AM - 12:00 AM 我儿子的状况, 包括:在那里, 在干什么, 和谁在一起.
2. 书面道歉
3. 书面保证不对任何小孩再发生这种事
等待他们回复中.
详情晚上有时间再谈, 谢谢各位关心!
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