大陆移民申请父母来加 可能轮候10年(ZT)

[Xiaomimi]

最初由 andy0 发布
他们付了申请费和LANDING FEE.这些费用已经在补贴政府的开销.

Those are nothing compared with future medicare cost.

Do you know how much it costs to have a heart bypass surgery ?

$300,000.

Do you know how much to treat a stage III colon cancer ?

$80,000.

An how much is 申请费和LANDING FEE ?

 

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最初由 Xiaomimi 发布

By the same token, if the policy is that sponsors must pay for their parents's medicare until they pass away, I won't against their reunification in Canada.

It all comes down to interest, want me to agree with you ? You have to satisfy me that it won't hurt my interest.

I am sorry to tell you that it is almost impossible to ask Canadian, and Canadian Government stop offering humanity help to people who are in need worldwide neither to people inside Canada even just for a visit, too. Did you get hurt when you knew that Canadian Government offered so much money to those Asian contries for disaster relefe recently?---and those money were not thrown into your medicare system!....you think the money may or maynot spend on you are pennies in your pokect,too bad.

 

[Caohaoying]

最初由 丫丫 发布

I am sorry to point to you that there are adults think小人之心有什么不好么, and there are adults think it is wrong.
And, I hope when we are discussing how to get our parents here faster, you don't imagine people are aiming at your 'successful' job possition to not offering support:smokin:

客观地说两句。你从一开始就没有在讨论问题。你没有提出任何建设性的意见，仅仅在这里针对个人展开人身攻击。如果要讨论问题，建议你坚持自己的观点也包容替他人的意见。对不同意见者，不要指望肉体上的消灭，这不是解决问题的态度。同时，有人替不同意见，其实对你是有好处的。在这里提出来不是让你有个思想准备么？提前知道问题的艰巨。我个人绝对支持父母团聚。但是我反对人身攻击。设想一下，如果你的孩子已经可以在网上阅读你的言论，他会怎么想。另外你觉得有必要非要在这里把别人压下去么？如果这对你很重要，我不再说了。
最后，我要像这个坛子里的人道歉，把好好一个帖子搞成了无意义的争吵。

 

[andy0]

最初由 Xiaomimi 发布


Those are nothing compared with future medicare cost.

Do you know how much it costs to have a heart bypass surgery ?

$300,000.

Do you know how much to treat a stage III colon cancer ?

$80,000.

An how much is 申请费和LANDING FEE ?

真可笑,你居然搬出来这些极端的医疗开销来搪塞.

请问在现有的加拿大的人口中有多少人有这个机会去开这个昂贵的刀,如果你有这个机会,怕别人来了使你开这个刀推迟一年而在这里抱怨,我就充分理解你的苦心了.

这些移民在来加拿大前,都经过加拿大CIC认可的严格的医疗体检,每年有相当比例的移民因此被挡在门外.

加拿大的医疗根本问题是效率问题,如果你硬是把移民往上面扯,干脆你发起一个请愿,让加拿大颁布法律禁止移民去看费用超过$10000的病,我一定给你去捧场...

如果说用TAX PAYER的钱,有更多值得你去CONCERN的地方,有更多花大钱的地方,知道这个新的BUDGET吗?13BILLION要花在军费上,而医疗只有2个BILLION!!!知道一艘潜艇要多少钱吗?知道一架F16要多少钱吗?知道现在加拿大的国防部养了多少懒人吗?知道这些懒人工资福利有多好吗?

你这样的所谓IT"精英",我见的多了.冷嘲热讽同胞是你们的强项,对本地人连屁都不敢放一个.这就是我对你的看法.

 

[Xiaomimi]

最初由 andy0 发布
真可笑,你居然搬出来这些极端的医疗开销来搪塞.

请问在现有的加拿大的人口中有多少人有这个机会去开这个昂贵的刀,如果你有这个机会,怕别人来了使你开这个刀推迟一年而在这里抱怨,我就充分理解你的苦心了.

这些移民在来加拿大前,都经过加拿大CIC认可的严格的医疗体检,每年有相当比例的移民因此被挡在门外.

加拿大的医疗根本问题是效率问题,如果你硬是把移民往上面扯,干脆你发起一个请愿,让加拿大颁布法律禁止移民去看费用超过$10000的病,我一定给你去捧场...

如果说用TAX PAYER的钱,有更多值得你去CONCERN的地方,有更多花大钱的地方,知道这个新的BUDGET吗?13BILLION要花在军费上,而医疗只有2个BILLION!!!知道一艘潜艇要多少钱吗?知道一架F16要多少钱吗?知道现在加拿大的国防部养了多少懒人吗?知道这些懒人工资福利有多好吗?

More than half of seniors will have either heart disease or cancer.

Canada spends 7 times more in medicare than military. Soon half of your tax will be spent on medicare.

 

[Xiaomimi]

最初由 丫丫 发布

I am sorry to tell you that it is almost impossible to ask Canadian, and Canadian Government stop offering humanity help to people who are in need worldwide neither to people inside Canada even just for a visit, too. Did you get hurt when you knew that Canadian Government offered so much money to those Asian contries for disaster relefe recently?---and those money were not thrown into your medicare system!....you think the money may or maynot spend on you are pennies in your pokect,too bad.

Well, although I love Canada, I have to agree with people calling Canada stupid, because of the above reasons.

 

[oread]

最初由 andy0 发布
这些移民在来加拿大前,都经过加拿大CIC认可的严格的医疗体检,每年有相当比例的移民因此被挡在门外.

Most diseases that CIC is restricting are contagious diseases.

最初由 andy0 发布
请问在现有的加拿大的人口中有多少人有这个机会去开这个昂贵的刀,如果你有这个机会,怕别人来了使你开这个刀推迟一年而在这里抱怨,我就充分理解你的苦心了.

I personally know 3 seniors whose only reason for immigration to Canada was to have heart surgery: 2 were aiming for 搭桥手术, one was hoping to get an angioplasty done.

Please DO NOT mistake my examples as representational of ALL senior immigrants.

 

[oread]

最初由 Caohaoying 发布
最后，我要像这个坛子里的人道歉，把好好一个帖子搞成了无意义的争吵。

Good attitude.

 

[bigcooler]

http://www.sponsoryourparents.ca/processing_time.htm

数据来看，中国移民不争取父母移民加速造成的后果就是更多的其他族裔父母移民的比例增高。印度有2000多个名额，轮候时间是北京的1/3。

 

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最初由 Caohaoying 发布


客观地说两句。你从一开始就没有在讨论问题。你没有提出任何建设性的意见，仅仅在这里针对个人展开人身攻击。如果要讨论问题，建议你坚持自己的观点也包容替他人的意见。对不同意见者，不要指望肉体上的消灭，这不是解决问题的态度。同时，有人替不同意见，其实对你是有好处的。在这里提出来不是让你有个思想准备么？提前知道问题的艰巨。我个人绝对支持父母团聚。但是我反对人身攻击。设想一下，如果你的孩子已经可以在网上阅读你的言论，他会怎么想。另外你觉得有必要非要在这里把别人压下去么？如果这对你很重要，我不再说了。
最后，我要像这个坛子里的人道歉，把好好一个帖子搞成了无意义的争吵。

客观地说两句。I do not think there are much left to discuss about this problem. For people who are benefiting from, who will benefit from or who just support family reunion for humanity reason, even they are not going to benefit from it, they would support it anyways.
I just could not stand people are using their小人之心to imagine other's attitude... if you think there was nothing wrong with your第一贴是在自嘲, I have nothing to say then.
BTW, I am definatly telling my kid that her Mom does not like小人之心, at all

 

[lifeisfun]

最初由 Caohaoying 发布


客观地说两句。你从一开始就没有在讨论问题。你没有提出任何建设性的意见，仅仅在这里针对个人展开人身攻击。如果要讨论问题，建议你坚持自己的观点也包容替他人的意见。对不同意见者，不要指望肉体上的消灭，这不是解决问题的态度。同时，有人替不同意见，其实对你是有好处的。在这里提出来不是让你有个思想准备么？提前知道问题的艰巨。我个人绝对支持父母团聚。但是我反对人身攻击。设想一下，如果你的孩子已经可以在网上阅读你的言论，他会怎么想。另外你觉得有必要非要在这里把别人压下去么？如果这对你很重要，我不再说了。
最后，我要像这个坛子里的人道歉，把好好一个帖子搞成了无意义的争吵。

I guess you two guys better to use QQH to exchange your opinions. Better not to waste the ammunition.

 

[lifeisfun]

最初由 andy0 发布


真可笑,你居然搬出来这些极端的医疗开销来搪塞.

请问在现有的加拿大的人口中有多少人有这个机会去开这个昂贵的刀,如果你有这个机会,怕别人来了使你开这个刀推迟一年而在这里抱怨,我就充分理解你的苦心了.

这些移民在来加拿大前,都经过加拿大CIC认可的严格的医疗体检,每年有相当比例的移民因此被挡在门外.

加拿大的医疗根本问题是效率问题,如果你硬是把移民往上面扯,干脆你发起一个请愿,让加拿大颁布法律禁止移民去看费用超过$10000的病,我一定给你去捧场...

如果说用TAX PAYER的钱,有更多值得你去CONCERN的地方,有更多花大钱的地方,知道这个新的BUDGET吗?13BILLION要花在军费上,而医疗只有2个BILLION!!!知道一艘潜艇要多少钱吗?知道一架F16要多少钱吗?知道现在加拿大的国防部养了多少懒人吗?知道这些懒人工资福利有多好吗?

你这样的所谓IT"精英",我见的多了.冷嘲热讽同胞是你们的强项,对本地人连屁都不敢放一个.这就是我对你的看法.

13BILLION要花在军费上,而医疗只有2个BILLION!!! ...

You are kidding me, for every tax dollar, the government will spend 45 cents on medical care. Remember this budget is Federal budget and the medi-care is the responsibility of provincial government.

所谓IT"精英",我见的多了...,

Don't try to point finger to certain group of people. We are discusiing things, not identify who is who.

对本地人连屁都不敢放一个, ....

If you can, go ahead, as it's the local people decide to shut the door, not so-called Chinese IT"精英.

 

[Xiaomimi]

最初由 丫丫 发布
客观地说两句。I do not think there are much left to discuss about this problem. For people who are benefiting from, who will benefit from or who just support family reunion for humanity reason, even they are not going to benefit from it, they would support it anyways.

Every Chinese in Canada hate the following 2 things about Canada:

1)Extremely high taxation.
2)A medicare system with long waiting list.

Get more elderly parents in will only make the above two much worse.

Sorry, we really can't afford this kind of "humanity" any more.

 

[March]

最初由 渐渐 发布
I agree with you that these are better approaches to shorten the backlog, and I'm certainly willing to do that.

I've said this before: humanitarian ground is perhaps the ONLY card the immigrants can play in this case. Those who keep screaming bloody murder need to come to terms with the reality: if it's not for the free health care and other social benefits, a visitor's visa would be more than enough to enjoy 天伦之乐.

 

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最初由 Xiaomimi 发布


Every Chinese in Canada hate the following 2 things about Canada:

1)Extremely high taxation.
2)A medicare system with long waiting list.

Get more elderly parents in will only make the above two much worse.

Sorry, we really can't afford this kind of "humanity" any more.

Oh hoho, sorry to be stupid Canadian with immigration policy accepting refugees around the world, with out sorting out the wealthy ones, healthy ones and build-in health medical insurence come alone with them.....eh? :lol: :lol2:
Anyways, nobody could force you to support it.:smokin: