精华 温哥华感想：移民是个错误

[寻梦人]

最初由 闲得慌 发布

在前文中我已经谈到一部分农民的惨状。
当然，你也谈到了另一部分不那么惨的农民。

但这里应该强调的是中国政府推行的该诅咒的户籍制度。
正是这个户籍制度从制度上规定了中国人生来不平等,
使得少部分城里人可以奴役大部分乡下人。

这个恶性循环中，那些悲惨的农民的责任(如果你硬要说他们也有责任的话)
就是没有团结起来推翻这个制定罪恶的户籍制度的政府！

 

[寻梦人]

最初由 张曼玉 发布
至于寻梦人说到的政府的政治、外交的强势，有意思的是，我同事对中国政府的期徐竟是源于他对加拿大在经济、政治和外交上对美国的过于依附的报怨。也许新移民们跟这里土生土长的加拿大人在这个问题上并没有相同的关注。
说到外交，我认为中国政府这几年的外交政策总的来说是成功的。When the US fight jet invades Chinese space territory。。。类似的事件发生时，我们应该怎么做？外交是要以实力为后盾的，意气用事不仅没用，有时吃亏的还可能是自己。现时中国在中美关系中可打的牌不如对手，硬碰硬显然不是聪明的方法。况且我们看到的都是桌面上的，桌面下的，中国人还是在争取自己的最大利益。
还说外交，中国的国际地位不是一个就联合国常任理事国的位置能保证的，联合国投票时就可以看出非洲兄弟们的作用了，对自己没有好处的事谁会去干？台湾为了跟人建交，pay的还少啊。美国、日本。。。在这方面花的钱更多。一个和平有利的国际环境尤其是周边环境对国内经济建设的影响我就不用说了吧。

When the US fight jet invades Chinese space territory。。。类似的事件发生时, shouldn't the Chinese government fight back? In your view, the Chinese government should keep giving away more and more territory for 中国的国际地位? What a logic! Where do you put the dignity of the Chinese people? What have we the Chinese people spent so much on tanks, fight jets, and canons for?

On the other hand, the Chinese government was determined to use all the advanced gun machines to shoot on so many innocent students due to their peaceful demonstrations many years ago. You probably argue that it is required for 和平有利的国内经济建设.

You would never think the root solution to all this and that problem: to destroy this autocratic CPP party government or replace it with a multi-party democratic government.

My last thinking: the Chinese government should never promise to the Taiwan government that somebody in Taiwan may be "selected" as Vice-Chairman when Taiwan returns to China. If the Chinese government someday dare to promise Taiwan that we would compete for a multi-party political system for the united China, that we would pursue a fair political campaign to elect each party's leader, and that we would put all these African country financial aids to assist the most unfortunate farmers in mainland China to get their kids/grandkids back to school, to relieve some tax burden, and to have them equal access to the health care system, then I strongly believe that Taiwan will join mainland even if mainland rejects, that you, me, s/he lots of overseas Chinese people will go back giving away Canadian, American, England citizenship, and that a united and democratic China would be one of the strongest in the world. Isn't this all our Chinese people have been dreaming for?

 

[寻梦人]

最初由 张曼玉 发布
中国正处于社会和经济体制的变革中，从一种体制到另一种体制的剧烈变革无疑需要时间。新移民个人或一家人从中国移民到这儿也还需要几年的适应期呢，而要真正融入加拿大社会和文化，甚至可能需要两代人或更长的时间。更何况中国那么大一个国家，那么多人口，而且很多东西是必须依赖经济基础的。罗马不是一天建成的。

You seem to ignore (I hope not intentional) a very basic fact: Who decides 经济基础?

In my view, the root to all this and that problem in today's Chinese society is that the Chinese government never dares to change anything in the political system. Isn't it time to get the project going now?

 

[bigcat]

最初由 Melody 发布
这东西就好比自己脚上的鞋,合不合适,只有自己心里最清楚!
过得好不好,各人自有各人不同的感觉,不能一言概之.
写文章的这个人我看是在国内过惯了人上人的滋味,来这里受不了
那么大的落差才写出了这么偏激的文章吧.

看到这里我想起我有一双皮鞋,外观不错，穿了一年，只有我知道还是不合脚，但是由于价钱比较贵，不舍得丢，所以还在穿着这双鞋。心中的滋味只有自己最清楚，无论在那儿生活，都是自己的选择。只是一句话，奋斗便是了！

 

[guest]

最初由 sage 发布
How do you even compare the Chinese government to the Canadian government?! Does the Chinese government pay for up to 1 year of employment insurance (by the way, it's only a neutral term for umemployment insurance)? Does the Chinese government pay for the health benefits? Does the Chinese government provide professinal training for you free of charge?

Recession is a normal fact in a capitalistic country. It goes in cycles, so 2 years ago Nortel stock was at its peak 124.5 Canadian dollars, now you can't even buy a decent cup of coffee with the market value of one Nortel share. This is all part of the normal growth of economy. What exactly do you expect a government to do for you? Garantee you with a job for life? You'll have to be born with a silver spoon.

No wonder American or Japanese are not among those who hate Chinese the most.

Let's just kill the mom while the youth is out the nest.

 

[Redfox]

最初由 陶德 发布
加拿大有很多很多不错的东西，但不属于我们。即使你是第二代，第三代也是一样。这是我常听 AM 580 Talk Radio 谈话节目得到的感觉。吧唧斯坦，菲律宾等国的移民后裔也都这种感觉，常听到他们与节目主持人谈。

Lowell Green is indeed a racist.
:shan:

 

[oread]

No wonder ignorance and stupidity are such common traits among young Chinese.

最初由 <...> 发布


No wonder American or Japanese are not among those who hate Chinese the most.

Let's just kill the mom while the youth is out the nest.

 

[Die_Hard]

最初由 sage 发布
How do you even compare the Chinese government to the Canadian government?! Does the Chinese government pay for up to 1 year of employment insurance (by the way, it's only a neutral term for umemployment insurance)? Does the Chinese government pay for the health benefits? Does the Chinese government provide professinal training for you free of charge?

这种人，刚从中国偷运咸肉来加拿大，就大骂自己长大的中国比不过加拿大，在外丢人不说，还说中国对她照顾不周。嗨，好厚的脸皮啊。。。。。

 

[ottawa_ca]

最初由 Die_Hard 发布


这种人，刚从中国偷运咸肉来加拿大，就大骂自己长大的中国比不过加拿大，在外丢人不说，还说中国对她照顾不周。嗨，好厚的脸皮啊。。。。。

看清啦，人家 SAGE 说的可是 CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND CANADIAN GOVERNMENT。

TJ == TIANJIN？

京油子，卫嘴子，保定府的狗腿子 天底下三大恶人京油子居首

算了算了， DIE_HARD，就算 SAGE 比你恶吧。

 

[ottawa_ca]

DIE_HARD，你这钱来得也太快了。你要是不稀罕，捐我 240 块，让我换个 TITLE 吧？
:thanks:

 

[oread]

马甲常换常新. :bounce::lol:
来来来, 闲着也是闲着. 用北京话说, 拿你逗个乐子, 让苦闷的渥京同志们开开心.

 

[Die_Hard]

最初由 ottawa_ca 发布
DIE_HARD，你这钱来得也太快了。你要是不稀罕，捐我 240 块，让我换个 TITLE 吧？
:thanks:

怎么给你？

 

[Die_Hard]

最初由 ottawa_ca 发布


看清啦，人家 SAGE 说的可是 CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND CANADIAN GOVERNMENT。

TJ == TIANJIN？

京油子，卫嘴子，保定府的狗腿子 天底下三大恶人京油子居首

算了算了， DIE_HARD，就算 SAGE 比你恶吧。

TJ == TIANJIN？

京油子，卫嘴子，保定府的狗腿子

没看懂。。。。

天底下三大恶人京油子居首

看懂了， SAGE是常说她们北京人怎么样的。

 

[Die_Hard]

最初由 sage 发布
马甲常换常新. :bounce::lol:
来来来, 闲着也是闲着. 用北京话说, 拿你逗个乐子, 让苦闷的渥京同志们开开心.

源自Ottawa_ca,for details, go back 4 posters,please:
京油子，卫嘴子，保定府的狗腿子 天底下三大恶人京油子居首

 

[oread]

Who's your daddy and what does he do? :lol::lol::lol: