精华 温哥华感想：移民是个错误

[寻梦人]

最初由 捶妮春 发布


You seem having more leisure time to write long paragraphs. I won't be able to do the follow-ups to share facts, which are already out there and ignored by somebody on purpose.

You jumped to personal things so fast that makes me laugh. LOL....

Funny. You mean what 闲得慌 cited are those facts.

Don't these facts have any effects on you? Don't you have any sympathy for these bottom level farmers in China? Do you believe that they, their children and their grandchildren are at fault for all the facts? Don't you think they as Chinese citizen should have equal access to the same social benefits as those enjoyed by the others in China? Don't you believe that they are the most unfortunate people in China?

 

[寻梦人]

最初由 捶妮春 发布


Well, you make the baloon bigger and bigger. Are you sure you can handle it? It seems out of the scope of your knowledge.

I don't need to handle it, Ms.捶.

It is indeed out of our control but still falls within our knowledge.
There is nothing wrong to discuss this and that social phenomenon; otherwise, there would be no fun to log on this ComeFromChina website.

Agree, 捶小姐!?

 

[胡说之]

最初由 陶德 发布


唉--俺也不是没有想过。

买辆JETTA吧，但如果让国内的亲戚朋友知道了，多没面子啊!

日本车俺不买，是日货，据说还不禁撞，一撞就玩完! 就是不考虑爱国，这性命还是要紧对吧? 咱农民的命即使不值钱，可也是命啊

美国车更不敢买了，没听北京上海那些城市人说美国车是垃圾么? 要是买个林肯之类的垃圾，还不让国内那些乡亲笑话死?!

AUDI到是让我挺动心，在国内可是只有部长省长才有资格坐的。但俺看这里的AUDI都没有国内的AUDI气派。

再说了，咱农民又不是当司机的料。雇个司机吧，又觉得不合算。

这加拿大行路就是艰难!

看看,农民就是农民,买B爱母大母牛呗,怪不得主席说,"要教育农民".

 

[胡说之]

最初由 abby 发布


I agree that in China taxi is much convinient than here. However I can't agree with what you said about BJ.

I just went to Beijing this spring. I was not impressed by the transportation. Half of the taxi drivers I met were cheating. The traffic jam was awful during rush hours. Even the tourist guide himself said BJ's need better transportation infrustructure.I only stayed there for 3 days. Maybe just bad luck.

As bus in Ottawa, it depands on which one you are taking. 95, 97 are only 5 minutes interval. Plus you can always plan your ride using the schedule. It's quite accountable, not always of cause. I am not a big fan of OC transpo but at least we have to be fair.

Bike You may not know bike is not the major transportation tool in Ottawa.. You should try the bike trail here for fun. It's awsome.

As I said, living in Canada may not be everyone's life. But I just can't buy anything you said . It strikes me that the reason you don't like here is because you don't know here very well .

这位ABBY喜欢对农弹琴呵,这农民怎么着也是个富上中农,您把他当贫下中农来鼓动,阶级划分都搞错了.

 

[假道学]

最初由 abby 发布


I agree in China, taxi is much convinient than here. However I can't agree with what you said about BJ.

I just went to Beijing this spring. I was not impressed by the transportation. Half of the taxi drivers I met were cheating. The traffic jam was awful during rush hours. Even the tourist guide himself said BJ's need better transportation infrustructure.I only stayed there for 3 days. Maybe just bad luck.

As bus in Ottawa, it depands on which one you are taking. 95, 97 are only 5 minutes interval. Plus you can always plan your ride using the schedule. It's quite accountable, not always of cause. I am not big fan of OC transpo but at least we have to be fair.

Bike You may not know bike is not the major transportation tool in Ottawa.. You should try the bike trail here for fun not to get somewhere. It's awsome.

As I said, living in Canada may not be everyone's life. But I just can't buy anything you said . It strike me that the reason you don't like here because you don't know here very well. .

您说的没错! 北京堵车是常事，这也是所有大城市的通病。东京，巴黎等莫不如此，渥太华是个小城市，很少堵车确实不错。但行路难也是个不容否认的事实。

行路难倒还可以忍受，大不了少出去，租房买房找个离上班地方近点的，咱步行。最让人不能容忍的是这里不利于下一代，子女的成长。首先，这里的幼儿园，小学，中学的教学质量实在是不如国内。这里的中学学的东西跟国内没法比。而幼儿园简直就是傻玩。国内亲戚的孩子到4-5岁都画画的不错了，琴也练的不错了，古典诗词也背了不少了。可这里就是会搭点简单的积木，学学26个字母，每天回家一鞋沙子。

更可怕的还是这里的生存环境对华人幼儿和小孩心灵的摧残! 华人小孩很少能与白人黑人小孩玩在一块儿的，一般都是几个华人同学一起玩，被游离于众人之外，容易造成心灵扭曲和怪僻啊

 

[寻梦人]

最初由 捶妮春 发布


So, you discuss social phenomena based on what?

Facts, observations, experience, news, and of course net

 

[abby]

最初由 陶德 发布


您说的没错! 北京堵车是常事，这也是所有大城市的通病。东京，巴黎等莫不如此，渥太华是个小城市，很少堵车确实不错。但行路难也是个不容否认的事实。

行路难倒还可以忍受，大不了少出去，租房买房找个离上班地方近点的，咱步行。最让人不能容忍的是这里不利于下一代，子女的成长。首先，这里的幼儿园，小学，中学的教学质量实在是不如国内。这里的中学学的东西跟国内没法比。而幼儿园简直就是傻玩。国内亲戚的孩子到4-5岁都画画的不错了，琴也练的不错了，古典诗词也背了不少了。可这里就是会搭点简单的积木，学学26个字母，每天回家一鞋沙子。

更可怕的还是这里的生存环境对华人幼儿和小孩心灵的摧残! 华人小孩很少能与白人黑人小孩玩在一块儿的，一般都是几个华人同学一起玩，被游离于众人之外，容易造成心灵扭曲和怪僻啊

I don't think 行路难也是个不容否认的事实 but it seems that I can't convice you

As for the education, I don't agree with you. At least,I do not miss anything I learnt in the middle school when I was in China.I wish I went to school here. In my eyes, most of "basic staff" I learnt in middle school was more useful in test than in real life. I like the education system here better since I find it protects the creativity and curiousity of the children. A school is suppose to inspire students to study not to pressure them to do so. It's just based on my personal experince and observations. You don't have to agree with me. Just a different opionion.

"华人小孩很少能与白人黑人小孩玩在一块儿的" This is BS. I have to say. Almost all kids I know here they play with all kinds of kids as long as they are in the same neighborhood. However if the parents keep having racial issue in their mind, it may make the kids harder to mingle with the kids from other ethnic group.

 

[Melody]

最初由 陶德 发布


更可怕的还是这里的生存环境对华人幼儿和小孩心灵的摧残! 华人小孩很少能与白人黑人小孩玩在一块儿的，一般都是几个华人同学一起玩，被游离于众人之外，容易造成心灵扭曲和怪僻啊

谁说的?是你孩子太shy,不敢和白人黑人小孩玩吧?

最让人不能容忍的是这里不利于下一代，子女的成长。首先，这里的幼儿园，小学，中学的教学质量实在是不如国内。这里的中学学的东西跟国内没法比。而幼儿园简直就是傻玩。国内亲戚的孩子到4-5岁都画画的不错了，琴也练的不错了，古典诗词也背了不少了。可这里就是会搭点简单的积木，学学26个字母，每天回家一鞋沙子。

能将积木按自己的想象玩的得心应手这就是能耐!!
不是每个孩子都能做得到的.
画,画的好,琴能弹,古典诗词也背了不少能说明什么?孩子的短期记忆是不可靠的.学会学习方法,生活技能,这个人一辈子才可以走的远.

 

[胡说之]

"一般都是几个华人同学一起玩，被游离于众人之外",是不是上中文学校上的?我孩子还行啊,朋友里除了黑人,各色人等都有.你孩子是不是年龄有点儿大了?

 

[Melody]

最初由 VeryIratedPerson 发布
"一般都是几个华人同学一起玩，被游离于众人之外",是不是上中文学校上的?我孩子还行啊,朋友里除了黑人,各色人等都有.你孩子是不是年龄有点儿大了?

俺家孩子和哪个人种的孩子都能玩,过Birthday Party孩子自己请来的朋友
都是洋人啊!他家孩子肯定是太害羞,怕和洋人孩子开口交朋友.

 

[假道学]

最初由 Melody 发布

俺家孩子和哪个人种的孩子都能玩,过Birthday Party孩子自己请来的朋友
都是洋人啊!他家孩子肯定是太害羞,怕和洋人孩子开口交朋友.

Faint!!!!
我说的是普遍现象，干吗往自己身上揽??

要知道，光受点心灵摧残，性格怪僻也就认了。但长大之后还很可能被人叫做"黄香蕉"，(更悲惨的是生在这里的，被叫做ABC,BBC,...). 多...多...多难听啊??:blowzy:

所以，有识之士都选择把孩子送会国内读小学去了。没准，就抱个奥数的大奖章回来，多神气呀!

 

[rainzw]

最初由 陶德 发布


Faint!!!!
我说的是普遍现象，干吗往自己身上揽??

要知道，光受点心灵摧残，性格怪僻也就认了。但长大之后还很可能被人叫做"黄香蕉"，(更悲惨的是生在这里的，被叫做ABC,BBC,...). 多...多...多难听啊??:blowzy:

所以，有识之士都选择把孩子送会国内读小学去了。没准，就抱个奥数的大奖章回来，多神气呀!

Well, I can't agree with your evaluation standard. For my kids, I hope they could be :

Self-respect and respect other people.
Self-love and love other people.

I don't care what kind of eduction level they could have, just have the enough knowledge for living is OK.

 

[Melody]

最初由 陶德 发布



所以，有识之士都选择把孩子送会国内读小学去了。没准，就抱个奥数的大奖章回来，多神气呀!

既然这样,为什么还来加拿大移民呢?
孩子就当个中国国民在国内生长好了,干吗还非要让他拿个LP或是入个加拿大籍呢?
那陶德同志的孩子是不是也送回中国给您捧奥数的大奖章去了??

 

[假道学]

最初由 Melody 发布

既然这样,为什么还来加拿大移民呢?
孩子就当个中国国民在国内生长好了,干吗还非要让他拿个LP或是入个加拿大籍呢?
那陶德同志的孩子是不是也送回中国给您捧奥数的大奖章去了??

我说的是对小孩，对下一代不利。成人移民，入籍各有各的小算盘。比如有的痛恨共党，有的要搞民运，也有的就是想体验一下西方国家生活方式；或者喜欢加拿大的清静；或者觉得加拿大就是好，就是好...

另外，你干吗老往自己身上揽啊?

 

[Melody]

最初由 陶德 发布


我说的是对小孩，对下一代不利。成人移民，入籍各有各的小算盘。比如有的痛恨共党，有的要搞民运，也有的就是想体验一下西方国家生活方式；或者喜欢加拿大的清静；或者觉得加拿大就是好，就是好...

另外，你干吗老往自己身上揽啊?

陶德同志,您今天看不懂中国话么?
是呀,俺照着您的话题走的.您移不移民是您的意志自己决定的,咱管不着.
您孩子可是跟着你跑来加拿大的,我就是问问您,既然您觉得在加拿大对孩子
身心发展不利,你是不是作为有识之士,已将您的孩子送回国受教育去了呢?
俺可没往俺自己身上揽,俺家人都觉得在加拿大呆着挺好的啊!!