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刚看上一个house,但发现地下室的地上和墙上有裂缝。

据我所知,地下室的地上有裂缝比较正常,但不知道墙上有裂缝是否常见,是否很严重。

谢谢。
 
最初由 渐渐 发布
俺家也有。裂缝不到6毫米没人给修的。不过所有结构上的问题都有7年保修。等裂够了再给builder打电话吧。

有问题可以查这里:
http://www.newhome.on.ca/services/pdg_search.aspx

你是说你家的墙上也有裂缝?

我看的那个house已经8年了。看来我要小心了。

一个朋友刚告诉我,地下室墙上的裂缝是因为房子斜了。
 
裂缝有可能是因为水泥干了收缩后的自然裂缝,这种情况是不给修的。也有可能是因为新房的沙土沉积,估计你朋友说的房子斜了就是这种情况。

我家地下室的地面跟墙接触的地方也有一条细裂缝,不过既不漏水,也没有继续开裂,我就一直没管它。

对了,刚看了眼Tarion的新房保修条例,怎么说地基的裂缝只管一年呢。谁了解更详细的情况?
 
另外我对您这种一点事就一贴多发的做法十分不解, 就象上车抢座一样。
 
最初由 渐渐 发布
裂缝有可能是因为水泥干了收缩后的自然裂缝,这种情况是不给修的。也有可能是因为新房的沙土沉积,估计你朋友说的房子斜了就是这种情况。

我家地下室的地面跟墙接触的地方也有一条细裂缝,不过既不漏水,也没有继续开裂,我就一直没管它。

对了,刚看了眼Tarion的新房保修条例,怎么说地基的裂缝只管一年呢。谁了解更详细的情况?

This is very usefull:
http://www.newhome.on.ca/NR/rdonlyres/8FEE560B-D84F-4FB2-BD80-E8D6ED6D0584/0/CPGDoc_v2.pdf

Page 25 (crack on wall, 1 year) and Page 90 ( Building Envelope Water Penetration, 2 year)

:)
 
最初由 cgi 发布


你是说你家的墙上也有裂缝?

我看的那个house已经8年了。看来我要小心了。

一个朋友刚告诉我,地下室墙上的裂缝是因为房子斜了。

If you are really serious about this hous, hire an inspector to check it for you...房子斜了is hard to fix..

基础墙 has loads of experience, you may consult him first...
 
最初由 渐渐 发布
另外我对您这种一点事就一贴多发的做法十分不解, 就象上车抢座一样。

谢谢 渐渐.

俺主要是觉得有些人不来这个坛子。俺今明两天就要做决定。

再次谢谢 渐渐.
 
最初由 渐渐 发布
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对了,刚看了眼Tarion的新房保修条例,怎么说地基的裂缝只管一年呢。谁了解更详细的情况?

When doing the PDI, builder gave us an extra warranty registration form from a third party company, water penitration is warrantied for 10 or 20 yrs (can't remember how many yrs, I will sell the house at that time anyway :))..the warranty is tranferable with 100 bucks fee...
 
最初由 cgi 发布


你是说你家的墙上也有裂缝?

我看的那个house已经8年了。看来我要小心了。

一个朋友刚告诉我,地下室墙上的裂缝是因为房子斜了。

要是八年的房子,倒是可以放心了。

看裂缝的走向,能知道它是沉降引起的还是收缩引起的。无论什么原因引起的裂缝,要是过了八年还是稳定的,一般也就不会再变坏了。

在四月化雪的时候和下大雨之后注意一下,有没有漏水?若有,最好从外面补一下。另外注意墙外面不要有积水,也就是GRADING要做好。
 
经过大家的指点之后,心里更加发毛,决定明天再去看看。

谢谢大家。
 
Cracks in Basement Walls

http://www.homeinspections-usa.com/article/20

hen spring arrives we generally focus our attention on cleaning the house, cleaning the yard, and planting gardens. Before we venture out, let’s head to the basement and check something really important: the basement walls. Winter is brutal. Freeze thaw cycles destroy streets and frozen rain pulls down wires and trees. Those same forces are busy below grade, and they can wreak havoc on the home’s structure. When the ground freezes, it swells and pushes against the foundation. This pressure can crack the wall, resulting in serious damage to the home. Almost 1/3 of the claims made against home inspectors are related to structure. The vast majority deal with structural failures discovered after renovations begin and were not visible to the inspector, but the central issue is the structure which is very important. A house is only at strong as its’ foundation.

The first order of business is pull everything away from the walls so you can see all sides, top to bottom. If you finish your basement, build the walls out far enough so you can examine the foundation. What type of walls do you have? A rule of thumb, stone is the best. This is only present in very old houses, but it’s the most solid foundation you can have. Poured concrete is the next best thing to stone. You are inspecting it to find damage that can result in structural failure. Concrete foundations often crack. The crack is usually vertical. It is caused by shrinkage of the concrete as it cures. If you find a vertical crack, rub your fingers across it. If both sides of the crack are even, the crack is most likely from shrinkage. This is a common cracking pattern and is rarely a structural concern. If you have water entering through the crack, get it professionally repaired. If you can fit a dime in it, get it fixed. Occasionally the wall on each side of the crack is not even. This type of crack may have been caused by a backhoe operator in a hurry. Walls are sometimes cracked during the backfilling process.

If you have cinderblock walls, they are most prone to problems. If properly installed and maintained, they generally perform well. Again, a vertical crack is usually not a concern. The wall is merely segmented, and the wall on both sides of the crack is doing its’ job. Look for water penetration, and if present get it repaired. If you find a long horizontal crack in the wall, you should be concerned. A horizontal crack compromises the integrity of the entire wall. It can lead to catastrophic structural failure. If you can put a dime in the crack, call a structural engineer. These horizontal cracks usually appear about 3’ below grade. They are caused by hydrostatic pressure against the side wall, and it snaps the wall. If I find a small crack during an inspection my advice is often to monitor the crack. If the crack never changes, you need not worry about it.

Monitor the crack? The Client generally looks at me like I suggested they study Latin Literature. Cracks are like a stain on the ceiling, it’s very difficult to tell if it changes. There is a device that I’ve discovered for monitoring cracks that is brilliant in its’ simplicity. It is manufactured by Avongard Products of Santa Monica California. They have a toll free number to order it, 1-800-244-7241, and the device, with shipping, is less than $20.00. It consists of two pieces of clear Plexiglas with a grid on them and two holes in each piece to secure it to the wall. It comes with a chart that duplicates the grid, and a spot on the chart to write the date. The device is secured to the wall and the grid is placed over the crack. You can secure it with masonry nails or an epoxy that the manufacturer sells. Once it is secured to the wall, you cut the tape that joins the two pieces of Plexiglas. The two pieces will move slightly when you cut the tape. You then draw a line on the chart to duplicate the reading on the grid. Keep the chart in a safe, dry place, and re-inspect the crack regularly for at least a year. Mark the next grid on the chart and date it each time you check it. The soil conditions can vary greatly between the seasons, so it takes a while to be sure there is no movement. Monitor it for at least a year. If the crack is moving, call an engineer.

When I find a crack in a basement wall, the first thing I try and determine is what the crack has been doing lately. Cracks caused by backfill, or water damage ten years ago are far less of a concern than a crack that is moving. If there is evidence of moving, a specialist should be called as soon as possible. There are a multitude of methods to repair foundation walls, short of tearing the house down and starting over. They obviously will vary in price depending on the labor involved. One thing is certain. If you have a crack in the basement wall, check it regularly, and if you are at all suspicious of it moving, call an expert, and get an expert to repair it. This isn’t the same as painting the back porch. If the job’s not done right, the down side can be disastrous.
 
嗯。。

主要看那条裂缝是在什么位置,如果在承重墙下面,就值得注意一下。

即便这样,通常这种裂缝化400多块钱就可以fix,不用太担心的:)
 
Could you explain this?


最初由 基础墙 发布
看裂缝的走向,能知道它是沉降引起的还是收缩引起的。
 
最初由 渐渐 发布
Could you explain this?



Thanks for asking, if you're not trying to kill me:-) -- most of my trainings and experiences are in foundation engineering so I'm fully aware how tough your question is.

Be honest, there's no universal rule serves all situations:( Generally speaking, for foundation walls, failure caused by settlement is shear failure (mostly), so the cracks will expend at 45 degree, often start at the weakest point of the wall, e.g. corners of windows or doors. For cracks caused by thermal load or contraction, it goes in longitudinal direction (or, say vertical, in the case of foundation walls) because the failure is often caused by tension. but, it all depends on the shape, supporting condition, and loading condition of the component. Improper construction can cause cracks, too.

About frosen, normally it's not a big concern for foundations of our houses because, by Code requirement, foundations are sitting beneath the frosen zone (1.5 m in Ottawa), and the backfill around the foundation should be granular material. I've only seen 1 case of frosen damage in a house in Ottawa, which is caused by poor design. However, frosen damage to fenses or decks is quite common, because many of them were built by amateurs.

Foundation is a "danger" zone in a building. Statistics in China shows that 30% of building defects occured in foundations. I bet the picture would be very alike here in Ottawa, though the soil condition here is not bad.
 

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