EOS 5D真的来了！

[阿瓜]

A few words:
- About camera metering systems: the spot metering provide a solid foundation for precise exposure control. The smaller the spot, the better control you get. The simple reason is that both matrix and center-weighted metering systems use some what algorism to average multi-zone metering values. Certainly, you can use EV compensation for matrix(zone) or center-weighted metering systems, however they have to depend on your experience (or say guessing). I don't want to say more about the importance of correct exposure, even with D-SLR.
- Leica/CZ lenses are not PERFECT (I don't think fad meant they are), however, they are in general better than Japanese lenses. Although they are expensive, they have their market. I don't think there is any misleading here.
- This forum means something to many people here, it is meant to be for discussion about photography works, gears, techniques, and stories. Everybody should remember, their words are only their own opinion. We are adults. Any post should be 对事, 不对人!
- One thing I agree with Xterra: live with your gear, make the most out of it. Hope you contribute more to this forum, your artistic works, and your professional comments are always welcome.

 

[Xterra]

最初由 阿瓜 发布
A few words:
- About camera metering systems: the spot metering provide a solid foundation for precise exposure control. The smaller the spot, the better control you get. The simple reason is that both matrix and center-weighted metering systems use some what algorism to average multi-zone metering values. Certainly, you can use EV compensation for matrix(zone) or center-weighted metering systems, however they have to depend on your experience (or say guessing). I don't want to say more about the importance of correct exposure, even with D-SLR.
- Leica/CZ lenses are not PERFECT (I don't think fad meant they are), however, they are in general better than Japanese lenses. Although they are expensive, they have their market. I don't think there is any misleading here.
- This forum means something to many people here, it is meant to be for discussion about photography works, gears, techniques, and stories. Everybody should remember, their words are only their own opinion. We are adults. Any post should be 对事, 不对人!
- One thing I agree with Xterra: live with your gear, make the most out of it. Hope you contribute more to this forum, your artistic works, and your professional comments are always welcome.

1> you are too absolute here. any proof? supportive links?
2> Panasonic produces most Leica Lenses. Since when Panasonic is not a Japanese company?
3> It is agreed, totally.
4> I have no comment

I don't mind discuss. That is where we learn the truth from. What made me uncomfortable was the attitude some people have here. When one posts a comment. It is meant to be read by many people. The poster is responsible for what is said in the post! Some people here posts without a serious study/research beforehand! just post and gone. Many irresponsible concepts here and there. Such as the statement of spot metering. So far, no one has provided any evidences, any links that is convinencing! When one blame something, should the one NOT provides an evidence at least? I hope you get my point - it is the loose attitude of some people posting here. This is not the fridge at home where you past anything on it. All postings here should be treated seriously! Same goes to Leica/CZ lenses. It is somewhat a sick showoff to me. Just because someone started photographing earlier, one would think he/she has a right to post misleading statements? Anyone knows Leica/CZ are very expensive lenses/cameras. They are made to delievery best possible images, optically. It is unrealistic to compare massivily produced Canon lenses against those beasts. The impression of their statement left to the viewers is "you can NOT get so-and-so images unless you have so-and-so lenses/cameras." It is VERY UNHEALTHY!! That attitude will not help this forum! It can only damage it, when most information posted is incorrect and misleading!

I am very disappointed that who you have gone after...

 

[Xterra]

最初由 startrack 发布
Xterra:
let me tell you something:
To be perfectly honest, I have been very patient on this discussion, especially those agressive words from you. Do not try to tell any one to do anything or not do anything, Here just a forum, let's keep it in good way, If you want to keep screwwing around here, personaly, I donot like you.and afterwards, lots people will be leaving from this forum, honestly, I am about to, just because here I still have some good friends...; let's take a look what you contirbuted to these forum, nothing, just fighting.
Can you stop doing this, dude?

right! let's just see what you have contributed so far?
1> photography is not a form of art. (talk to New York photography institution maybe?)
2> Leica/medium format is the final fate of a photographer.
3> photojournalism is the only right way of photography
4> don't abuse filters, yet, nearly all your photos with filters
the list can goes on and on....

So far, I have not contributed anything, that is what you thought!

At least, I don't give incorrect concepts as if I was the God. At least, I always say that was my opinion only, maybe wrong. At least, I have never firmly told anyone to do anything, as you suggested. At least, I have never give a post here without a serious research. At least, whenever I post my suggestions, I always do it myself to see if it really helps.

excuse my short memory, who do you think you are again?

 

[阿搜]

Let's keep this place the most quiet and joyful place in CFC.

It's hard to praise every other's pieces or opinions, but it's
not hard to appreciate those.


Cheers!

 

[阿瓜]

One last post:

A very good reference book about exposure and metering is John Shaw's Nature Photography Field Guide. It's available at Ottawa Public Library. You can reserve it, however, you have to wait for at least 6 months.

I also found this:

"Spot meters are reflected light meters with narrow sensitivity angles, from 10degree to 1degree for classic models. They are the most accurate way to implement the zone system. Without one you have to compromise, but with practice (know your meter's sensitivity pattern well!) you should be able to make good exposures most of the time, and know when to bracket (contrasty situations)."

Here is the link: http://luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/zone_system.shtml

Thanks Xterra for sharing this useful website here not long ago.

Cheers!

 

[Aeoliao]

摄影这东西，见仁见智，很难争出个结果。

不过， 光从contribution的角度来说，startrack在这里还是上了很多好片的，来得晚的朋友，可以翻老贴出来看，图片不可谓不精彩，贡献不可谓不大。尤其是在数码横行的时代，startrack单扛胶片大棋，让这里还有点胶片味，难得啊。

我还热切期待他的banff系列，千万不要为点理论上的争论，伤了和气，打击了积极性，让我们看不到反转片拍的banff，那可是倒了半壁江山，是一大损失啊。

色友们在这个坛子里混，不外乎想看点好片，所以说啊， 上好片才是硬道理。:lol:

 

[garychan]

不要?器材而争论了... 不?什?器材, 有唔?的技戌, ?可拍出好照片.

我要?多??影技巧, ?各位多多晷照...

 

[阿瓜]

最初由 Aeoliao 发布
摄影这东西，见仁见智，很难争出个结果。

不过， 光从contribution的角度来说，startrack在这里还是上了很多好片的，来得晚的朋友，可以翻老贴出来看，图片不可谓不精彩，贡献不可谓不大。尤其是在数码横行的时代，startrack单扛胶片大棋，让这里还有点胶片味，难得啊。

我还热切期待他的banff系列，千万不要为点理论上的争论，伤了和气，打击了积极性，让我们看不到反转片拍的banff，那可是倒了半壁江山，是一大损失啊。

色友们在这个坛子里混，不外乎想看点好片，所以说啊， 上好片才是硬道理。:lol:

祝两位一路顺风, 保重身体, 多拍好片. 另, 保护好器材

 

[Aeoliao]

我倒是想去和星星学学，无奈俗务缠身阿