这儿是我所看见的最干净的华人BBS，我喜欢。但我有问题问大家

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RE: Don't take it too seriously,pals

<HTML>Many friends I know have left or are leaving for US. Canada
is a country for rich people to enjoy life, and US is
a country for poor people to make rich.

If you are rich enough, Vancouver would be the best place to stay.
If you are poor but young, US would be your final dream destination.
If you are poor and old, Ottawa and Toronto would be your must choice
to make living. </HTML>
 
to klin

<HTML>Klin,

I don't want to argue with you. I guess both of us want to give our audience ( probably a wrong word, don't laugh at my English) a picture of Ottawa as real as possible. That's the only reason why I add reply post to your original post. I hope my input is closer to the fact. If not, I welcome anybody to put your input.

BTW: I don't what you mean "compare the avarage", </HTML>
 
RE: to klin

<HTML>The average here means average salary. Imagine a small city with population less than 1M, most of them are hi-tech workers and civil servants, the average salary could be very high. It's true a lot US cities pay their hi-tech workers much more than Ottawa, but you should also take those poor people into account.

Anyway, I don't like Ottawa the best either, but for people like us, it's really a good place to start our new life in North America. Good luck to all.</HTML>
 
喜欢与否都是自己的感受，自己来试试就知道了！

<HTML>争了半天，看到大家无外乎为了薪水和白雪皑皑，其实这里的薪水(相对水平)之高，的确是我们已经讨论很久的。但是有那么一些人就是喜欢唱反调，那就随他们自己去吧，如果他喜欢山姆大叔，就去找山姆大叔了。无论如何，我认识的除了在加州的朋友，没有人说这里工资低的。前几天这里一个100k的contract不是闹得满城风雨了吗？有没有人忘记了，嘿嘿！据这位仁兄后来告诉我，他们公司请的permenent最少也是85k,于是自己先前的优越感一下子就没了！
白雪皑皑的事情要看个人自己，昨天晚上零下十几度，几个朋友去利多运河溜冰，即使是来自几个江南的朋友(包括本人)也觉得空气很舒服，一点都不冷。下25cm暴风雪的那天，我们还专门开车出去看雪，把车陷在雪里开不出来，结果就有路人帮忙，一下子就解决问题了。所有的这些事情，都是看个人的心态了，呵呵！</HTML>
 
RE:

<HTML>You call 25 cm a snow storm? You have not seen snow yet. I've experienced 1.2 meter in 24 hours. Now, that's called snow!</HTML>
 
You can do a research on homefair.com

<HTML>To compare cities between Ottawa and other US cities. It is very fair rule. The salary level in Ottawa can be only compare with Los Angeles(with less high-tech opportunities, counting the currency rate). However, the house price is only half of the LA. The media house hold income is only less than $40K US$, compare with $80K in Silicon Valley. Counting the living quality, the Ottawa is better than LA, maybe better than Silicon Valley for a normal non-IT worker.</HTML>
 
RE: You can do a research on homefair.com

<HTML>If you had ever been to LA, you would not have said that. LA is a city much more prosperous and famous. Many chinese stay there for It has warm weather and lots of convenience like several free Chinese tv channels. Beverly hill is the homes of most famous stars like Jackie Chan.

Not everybody likes to live there, but everybody must
like to visit there. Just like you may not like to live in Beijing or Shanghai, but you must like to visit there.
</HTML>
 
You will find what LA is after you lived there

<HTML>I have stayed LA for years. Actually it is the worst city I ever saw. The average salary is low. A lot of Koreans and Mexican full of street. Yes, people from everywhere, but as I know, many people are racists. Chinese live together in a small city called Montery Park and Taiwanese look down upon Chinese. When you use credit card, the store owner will always check your ID. Although a lot of Chinese live in LA, you may wonder why there is no Chinese at all when you are in Beverly Hills. I traveled a couple of cities in US, as I see, the best place for Chinese is still Silicon Valley. Nice place and people are kind. New Jersy is also a good place. Los Angeles, with its more than 10million people, a worse place.
Donnot think every place in US is better. </HTML>
 
RE: You will find what LA is after you lived there

<HTML>L.A.is the most polluted city in the North America. Maybe that should
also count for its famous. </HTML>
 
RE: You will find what LA is after you lived there

<HTML>I'll say jane has a fair point. you have to be here to know.Ottawa isn't a bad place to start with at all, the nice summer may get even of the bitter cold winter.</HTML>
 
RE: You will find what LA is after you lived there

<HTML>Anyone who knows the work opptunities for not-IT-people?
I have been working as a research assistant in aerospace engineering, what would be the job chance in Ottawa? Thank a lot!!! </HTML>
 
我同意JANE的看法。这里有人的确与众不同，总喜欢唱反调

<HTML>我同意JANE的看法。这里有人的确与众不同，总喜欢唱反调。引发无聊的争论，还自以为是。
瞧瞧关于雪的贴子，妞妞说“除了那漫天的雪花我什么都不怕。”之后，刚告诉她这里冬天雪大的事实，就有人无聊又故作纯真的”KJKLUJSOIJOI“
别人刚说了”25 CM STORM“ 就又见它跳出来，”OPIWQJIHJ*J：KPK“

无聊至极。

</HTML>
 
这么些天来，众网友提了个人的看法，在此表示感谢。祝大家新年好！

<HTML>我所说的“除了那漫天的雪花我什么都不怕”其实是一句玩笑而已。有那么可怕吗？那儿的人们不都生活得好好的吗？我只是更希望更多地了解渥太华和多伦多之间，相对于我的工作经历来说的工作机会的情况。有了合适、稳定的工作，我想我能够解决其他的事情。

至于渥太华与美国城市的比较至少现在对我是无意义的。我的一位朋友问我为什么要移民加拿大，我是这样回答的：
“I want to immigrate Canada not for the car, the rome and money, I think I can get those several years late in Beijing. What I like is the fair and peace condition for living and working, good politics system, secure society, generous people, multi-culture, good education, and beautiful, no-polluted environment. All these will benefit not only me but also my family and offspring.”</HTML>
 
RE: 这么些天来，众网友提了个人的看法，在此表示感谢。祝大家新年好！

<HTML>Right! Only this 钞票 guy can't get it! </HTML>
 
RE: 这么些天来，众网友提了个人的看法，在此表示感谢。祝大家新年好！

<HTML>what Jane was saying before kissing butt. </HTML>
 
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