自由党下台了，要大选了，大家想选谁？

[eastowest]

最初由 Mee 发布
自由党的医疗改革计划，大家支持吗？我是出了好多银子，不是太高兴

The point is we (people from China) have to vote for the same party otherwise, no body will care us.

Learn something from israel.

If we have the same opinion, no matter what party we vote for, they will change their policies in the favore of us.

I suggest we vote first, the party with most support is the party all of us should vote for, regardless what your original idea is.

Anyone can give a idea how we caculate our ballots?

 

[lifeisfun]

最初由 掾民 发布


就现实政治力量而言，保守党到目前为止在BC占优势当无疑义。按照有些人的看法，保守党是白人中心的，是歧视华人的。然而，华人在那里的政坛挣得了一席之地。

有趣的是，有人认为自由党是对华友好的。华人在自由党当家的ON从政却受到压抑。

And also you can see other minority conservative MPs like quite a number of Indians sitting in parliament. Don't just accuse conservative of perferring whites just because some of their members are biased.

 

[lifeisfun]

最初由 sugarli 发布
"那边比较的有活力" has nothing to do with Federal politics. Calgarian culture is somewhat different from that of Ottawa, but what does that have to do with the Liberal Party?

But then why conservative party has been in power in Alberta for more than 10 years and they also send the most conservative MPs to Ottawa.
Calgary was just an oil city ten years ago and now due to the good policy, it has many hi-tech companies as well.

 

[lifeisfun]

最初由 Liberal 发布


BC省其实是NDP占优势, 保守党只在草原省占优. BC省的人把不乐意别人将他们与同属西部的阿省的人混同, 强调有区别.
至于说到华人在安省从政的比例不如BC省高, 我觉得这和哪个党执政无关. 关键还是华人自己. 相对来说安省的华人以第一代移民居多, 很多人还处在立足阶段.

NDP dominating BC was last 10 years. Now you don't see many of them in the provincial parliament as they lost badly in last provincial election. Even the ex-premier of BC who was a NDP, had turned to liberal and became the health minister of federal gogernment.

That's another aspect I don't like liberal. They would accept all traitors (or opportunists) from other parties like this guy from NDP and not to say Ben Linda from Conservative, and gave them minister postions no matter they had experience or not. That to me is disgusting. From these incidents, you can see how desperately Martin would like to stay in power. There is no principle in their mind, just greedness for power.

 

[lifeisfun]

最初由 smiling 发布

这个关于“传统价值观“的理解我觉得是一厢情愿的，Lowell Green有一次说“Canada lost it's tradition, ... immigration from traditional country..."。我们中国人再注重家庭，也不符合人家定义的传统价值观。

从个人利益来说，我也许该投保守党（低税收），但是从我少数族裔的身份，我绝不投保守党。

Well, you should not give up what you believe just because there are some guys out there like Low, who has a big mouth. He is not representing all conservatives. I also listen to him quite often and some of his opinions are baised. But some of them are good.

 

[abcd_12345]

support NDP

 

[ccc]

Re: Re: Re: 自由党下台了，要大选了，大家想选谁？

最初由 abner 发布


你以为保守党就不加税啊

GST was put into place by 保守党.

 

[lifeisfun]

Re: Re: Re: Re: 自由党下台了，要大选了，大家想选谁？

最初由 ccc 发布


GST was put into place by 保守党.

Well, then you don't know the whole story. GST was applied before as hidden tax on manufacturer side, which means that as a consumer, you buy some goods made in Canada and already paid the tax as part of the price. Conservative party moved it to consumer side and tried to make Canadian goods more competitive in international market. So it ends like that in Canada we as consumers have to pay GST (and we paid before anyway but maybe you are not aware of it). But consumers in US don't have to pay GST (as that tax is removed from the cost).

Talking about GST, the liberal promised to rip it off in their 1993 election red book. But until now, we still have it, so you know which party lied.

Don't forget that it's conservative party negotiated NAFTA and therefore opened the door for more trades and allowed many Canadian going to work in US on TN visas.

 

[做好人干好事]

当然是conservative
一个执政过久,权力过大腐败的自由党需要下台反省,如果保守党干的不好,过几年咱再把自由党选上来,NDP就省省吧,一群傻冒,讲些不切实际的东西,他们上台处了难民失业的日子更好过,换句话讲懒人日子更好,其他人要倒霉,不过这个党是没可能上台的

 

[allhelp]

最初由 perlandc 发布
SPONSORSHIP SCANDAL总共贪污多少钱呢? 1500万加币左右(折成人民币有一亿左右). 攻击它的主要也是这一点.从加拿大的价值观,1500万的贪污确实可以让一个政党倒台.这点贪污在中国根本就是小巫见大巫.

自由党的人至少不敢在媒体,电台公开散布反移民,反华言论.看看那些保守党的发言人或电台支持人吧.保守党有很强的反移民和种族主义倾向.

不选LIBERAL可以,就是不要选保守党,大家应该看清楚了.

对! 我决定选NDP

 

[lifeisfun]

最初由 fuzzy 发布


保守党歧视不歧视华人和BC华人势力大不大有什么关系？保守党歧视少数民族是不可争的事实。
Wondering if you still remember on conservative party member's flippant description of immigration from Asia as an "Asian invasion," not long ago.

There are indeed too many Asian immigrants in the last 10 years.

http://www.asiapacific.ca/data/people/Pi2number.cfm

I, as an immigrant from Asia, would like to see more balanced immigrant sources.

 

[lifeisfun]

最初由 lostseason 发布


没错！我在前面也指出过，在BC省NDP的支持率要高于保守党。

See the following list for MP:

http://www.parl.gc.ca/common/senmem...&Parl=38&Ses=1&Sect=hoccur&Order=ProvinceName


BC total: 39
liberal 8
conservative 18
NDP 5

Using the fact not the feeling to control your mouth.

 

[fuzzy]

最初由 lifeisfun 发布


There are indeed too many Asian immigrants in the last 10 years.

http://www.asiapacific.ca/data/people/Pi2number.cfm

I, as an immigrant from Asia, would like to see more balanced immigrant sources.

Wow, 人歧视一把，你说人歧视得对，你真的很有骨气，不得不佩服。说的人自己都resign了，你还在给人提靴子，wow, unbelievable. 你这种人不被人歧视都难啊。

 

[Isabel]

最初由 lifeisfun 发布


There are indeed too many Asian immigrants in the last 10 years.

http://www.asiapacific.ca/data/people/Pi2number.cfm

I, as an immigrant from Asia, would like to see more balanced immigrant sources.

什么是more balanced immigrant sources?

 

[lifeisfun]

最初由 ottawax 发布
Of course, the traditional canadian value means racisim, and now they still refuse to apologize for the discrimination against the chinese immigrants. The new immigrants needs the welfare state most before the next generation become middle class.

So vote liberal is for self interests of new immigrants.

Conservative made the wrong decision to support the Iraq war. Imagine how much resources will be wasted if conservative is in power!

You should be careful to say something like that:

Of course, the traditional canadian value means racisim,

As you could be sued for spreading such words, to me, sound more from a racisit.

Maybe you should vote for NDP if you want more welfare money. But will this be better for your future if you can open a small businee
and don't have pay much tax, so that you can stand up just like others and live on yourself instead of relying on others money.