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roaring mouse
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how do u god is not angry at this? u r not god, so u know. say u know when u know it; otherwise, keep quiet. actually, it doesn not matter. say whatever u want in whatever way u like.
chinese language is far more advanced than english.
in chinese, u say
i go home. he go home.
we do not care about goes, went, gone, going to.
english is a bit advanced than deutsch
u say my sun and my moon, u do not say meine or meinen or mein.
roaring mouse
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this, u should ask yokel. he thinks he has a monopoly on english as i cannot use `win over'. hopefully he is not a language police; no, he is not; he is not qualified.
"by your viewpoints, no social progress is possible."
Looks like you either don't understand my point at all, or trying to twist my point.
This is what I said. "doing the right thing at the right time". If you don't understand what it means, just ask people here for help, or find someone to read my line and explain it to you. If you want to blame Chinese people for the existence of the regime, or if you want to compare China with the countries of your favorite category, be my guest. You don't have to try so hard to twist the meaning of other people's words, or to try so desperately to put your words into other people's mouth. It will only make you look desperate.
"See the courageous people of Nepal and see how they fight to end un-democracy"
Now you are ignorant again comparing Nepal to China. Lets me just give you one of the differences between China and Nepal because I am tired of listing differences to you and you don't seem to understand anyway. Nepal is a country that can not even take care of Mao guerrillas. Any guerrillas in China? Did Nepal government use machine guns and tanks on its citizens/protesters?
"By your viewpoints, even the Americans could not win the war against the British, whose army was far more powerful than the American farmer army"
You need to re-read my point again, or find someone read it and explain it to you. The quoted below between the dotted lines is what I said last time.
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The American British War around 1777 was totally different from the situation in China today. Here are some of the differences:
- There were very few British army in the colonies unlike the army, armed police, police, secrete police etc all over the places in China.
- No media control from British government
- No systematic governmental control on society from the top to the smallest unit in villages
- No nation-wide British police control
- No firearm control
- No control on forming armies and militia, and parties
- Big culture difference
The list can go on and on. Does any of the factors apply to China? If China had only one difference such as having a freedom of press, then you will see difference.
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Looks like I need to explain what's so obvious to you again. The paragraph means that what can be done in US does not necessarily mean the same can be done in China at any point of time.
By the way who told you the British army was "far more powerful than the American farmer army"? The British army did not even have the power to fight the Independence that was declared a year before the American-British war.
"glad you find it gratifying in the washroom. hope your soul is washed clean there too."
I guess that's the best you can do...LOL
Yes, I may feel "gratifying" and "uplifting" in that situation, and I think many people may feel similar way. But the difference between you and rest of us is nobody but you will feel "soul is washed clean there" because it was you who believes whatever "gratifying" and "uplifting" is like religions, religious experience and religious practice. It's too late to deny that you are the one who believes that "Religion is like sex." or "Religion is like sh*ting!" based on your logic, your understanding of religion, and keeps telling us "that is a statement made by many others." Trying so hard to impose your logic and your understanding of religions on others only makes you even more pathetic.
"The communists would never have won over the KMT as the KMT army was far superior to the Mao's peasant army."
What do you mean by "win over"? Do you mean the Communist won over the KMT as friend during the war between 1946 to 1949? I assume you meant "defeat". Please keep in mind next time that "win over" and "defeat" are quite opposite in meaning..
You are now desperate and showing your ignorance again...
You need to read the history of that period. Here are some of the reading points for you to start with.
- The war between the Communist and the KMT during 46 to 49 was not for or about democracy in China at all. Instead it's one of the bloodiest civil wars on earth and more and more people find the war was not justified. It makes your argument totally irrelevant to the subject (improving democracy).
- The civil war was about Mao's personal dream to be an emperor, his hunger for power and he did not care much about how many Chinese would die during the civil war. It had nothing to do with democracy.
- Your example was about army fighting army militarily, not about citizens fighting government peacefully. By that example you are inciting the bare-handed citizens fighting government and army. You can see how desperate your argument is.
- Do you know how many millions of Chinese died during that war? Anyone who has BASIC understanding of democracy will not even think of risking the loss of that many Chinese lives. You are obviously lack of BASIC understanding of democracy and the modern Chinese history. What's worse is you don't seem to care about how many millions of Chinese will die when you incite that bare-handed Chinese should start a war against Chinese government and Chinese armies, or they are as guilty or evil as the regime.
"civil disobedience"
Glad to see you mentioned it. I am not sure if you understand the concept because it's a quite opposite approach from the "violent or military actions" that you have been so vehemently inciting for some time now that Chinese people should always take at all costs, otherwise they are evil too.
"If you do not stand up against evil, you become evil"
Are you saying that there was no difference between ordinary German people and Hitler. If your answer is yes or no, please explain, will you? When you explain, please try to use your brain this time...
Let me repeat what I said in the very beginning "Improving democracy in China is like many things in life about "doing the right thing at the right time". I hope you will understand when you grow older...
Since you have been so vehemently inciting that Chinese people should take violent actions or start a war against the government, it makes me wonder who give you the right or what credentials you have to preach Chinese people to do so? If I remember correctly, you were the coward and the chicken that ran away from Tian An Meng Square. Isn't it a bit ironic and amusing to see such a person preaching so vehemently the crap? To save people's time as well as mine, let me summarize the kid game you have been trying to play and trying to manipulate, that is "Chinese people should take violent actions or start a war against the government, or shut up." Of course the key point is "shut up"...
By the way, my 286 wants to send her regards to you. 7 years, what a pathetic character...LOL
roaring mouse
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englisch is my 3rd language; show some decency and consideration please
roaring mouse
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最初由 yokel 发布
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Since you have been so vehemently inciting that Chinese people should take violent actions or start a war against the government, it makes me wonder who give you the right or what credentials you have to preach Chinese people to do so? If I remember correctly, you were the coward and the chicken that ran away from Tian An Meng Square. Isn't it a bit ironic and amusing to see such a person preaching so vehemently the crap? To save people's time as well as mine, let me summarize the kid game you have been trying to play and trying to manipulate, that is "Chinese people should take violent actions or start a war against the government, or shut up." Of course the key point is "shut up"...
yokel, this time i questioned your intelligence again. u can choose to fight tyranny either by ballots or bullets. if u do neither, do not complain about being tyrannized.
chinese government is as democratic as any in the world. i have no problem with it. it is not a tyranny nor a dictatorship. it is U who complain about it. i am ok with my government.
yes, when i looked in the face of death in 1989, i ran away. i did not have the courage of the young man standing in front of the column of tanks. how about u? if u were not born, how about your parents or grandparents? what did they do? what did others do? what did china do? did they stand up and say no to what happened.
roaring mouse
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最初由 yokel 发布
Let me repeat what I said in the very beginning "Improving democracy in China is like many things in life about "doing the right thing at the right time". I hope you will understand when you grow older...
Since you have been so vehemently inciting that Chinese people should take violent actions or start a war against the government, it makes me wonder who give you the right or what credentials you have to preach Chinese people to do so? If I remember correctly, you were the coward and the chicken that ran away from Tian An Meng Square. Isn't it a bit ironic and amusing to see such a person preaching so vehemently the crap? To save people's time as well as mine, let me summarize the kid game you have been trying to play and trying to manipulate, that is "Chinese people should take violent actions or start a war against the government, or shut up." Of course the key point is "shut up"...
is it what u mean by doing the right thing at the right time? i am afraid u do not have the courage.
the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.--Soft you now!
by ws
roaring mouse
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最初由 yokel 发布
"If you do not stand up against evil, you become evil"
Are you saying that there was no difference between ordinary German people and Hitler. If your answer is yes or no, please explain, will you? When you explain, please try to use your brain this time...
yokel, this time your intelligence and diligence are both questioned. do i need a brain to explain this to u?
hitler was chosen to be die fuhrer. who else did u want to blame?
how about the current japanese prime minister? does he represent himelf when he visits the war shrine? he represents the will of the people who chose him.
how about the cultural revolution? did u only Mao and his leadership? how about its people?
roaring mouse
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Cleared by DNA, he's killed by traffic
Friday, April 28, 2006; Posted: 12:03 p.m. EDT (16:03 GMT) cnn
Dan Young Jr., leaves prison alongside his sister, Betty Ray, after being released in January 2005.
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CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- A man who spent 12 years in prison for murder before new DNA testing exonerated him last year was killed in a hit-and-run as he walked on the city's South Side.
The vehicle sped away after hitting Dan Young Jr., 45, Wednesday night, police said. He was pronounced dead Thursday, the Cook County medical examiner's office said.
Young had been released from prison in January 2005 after new testing on DNA evidence failed to link him and another man to the 1990 murder and sexual assault of Kathy Morgan, 39, whose body had been found in a South Side building after a fire.
"He always wanted to talk about his new life and what he would do once he got his clemency money," his attorney, Kathleen Zellner, said after learning of Young's death. "He wanted to know if I would help him get a red brick house."
Young had a lawsuit pending against the city and Cook County officials alleging false imprisonment and malicious prosecution. Officials have denied the allegations.
Chicago police said the hit-and-run was under investigation. No arrests had been made in the case Friday morning, police spokeswoman Laura Kubiak said.
Friday, April 28, 2006; Posted: 12:03 p.m. EDT (16:03 GMT) cnn
Dan Young Jr., leaves prison alongside his sister, Betty Ray, after being released in January 2005.
Bad Credit Refinance
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- A man who spent 12 years in prison for murder before new DNA testing exonerated him last year was killed in a hit-and-run as he walked on the city's South Side.
The vehicle sped away after hitting Dan Young Jr., 45, Wednesday night, police said. He was pronounced dead Thursday, the Cook County medical examiner's office said.
Young had been released from prison in January 2005 after new testing on DNA evidence failed to link him and another man to the 1990 murder and sexual assault of Kathy Morgan, 39, whose body had been found in a South Side building after a fire.
"He always wanted to talk about his new life and what he would do once he got his clemency money," his attorney, Kathleen Zellner, said after learning of Young's death. "He wanted to know if I would help him get a red brick house."
Young had a lawsuit pending against the city and Cook County officials alleging false imprisonment and malicious prosecution. Officials have denied the allegations.
Chicago police said the hit-and-run was under investigation. No arrests had been made in the case Friday morning, police spokeswoman Laura Kubiak said.
roaring mouse
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MADONNA USED ME AS A LESBIAN SEX SLAVE
MADONNA USED ME AS A LESBIAN SEX SLAVE - BUT REBECCA LOOS MADE ME HER HUSBAND
By Georgina Dickinson from the Sun
THE stunning model who seduced Angelina Jolie into a lesbian fling has confessed to having a superstar bit on the side...MADONNA!
Crop-haired Jenny Shimizu grinned cheekily as she declared: "It's most guys' ultimate fantasy to bed Angelina or Madonna. But I'm a girl and I was sleeping with both of them―AT THE SAME TIME.
"They were both sensational lovers who got incredibly turned on by the touch of another woman."
Action
For the first time Jenny revealed an astonishing string of gay affairs with the world's most beautiful celebrities, detailing how she:
REVELLED in being pop diva Madonna's sex slave, on call 24 hours a day for red-hot action,
‘MARRIED' David Beckham's one-time mistress Rebecca Loos, embarking on an erotic affair that's still flaming, and
the rest is too graphic for god loving people. u may find it in the Sun if u like.
MADONNA USED ME AS A LESBIAN SEX SLAVE - BUT REBECCA LOOS MADE ME HER HUSBAND
By Georgina Dickinson from the Sun
THE stunning model who seduced Angelina Jolie into a lesbian fling has confessed to having a superstar bit on the side...MADONNA!
Crop-haired Jenny Shimizu grinned cheekily as she declared: "It's most guys' ultimate fantasy to bed Angelina or Madonna. But I'm a girl and I was sleeping with both of them―AT THE SAME TIME.
"They were both sensational lovers who got incredibly turned on by the touch of another woman."
Action
For the first time Jenny revealed an astonishing string of gay affairs with the world's most beautiful celebrities, detailing how she:
REVELLED in being pop diva Madonna's sex slave, on call 24 hours a day for red-hot action,
‘MARRIED' David Beckham's one-time mistress Rebecca Loos, embarking on an erotic affair that's still flaming, and
the rest is too graphic for god loving people. u may find it in the Sun if u like.
roaring mouse
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Re: MADONNA USED ME AS A LESBIAN SEX SLAVE
here is:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/showbiz/showbiz1.shtml
here is:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/showbiz/showbiz1.shtml
roaring mouse
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Re: Re: MADONNA USED ME AS A LESBIAN SEX SLAVE
Victory to be declared.
Victory to be declared.
roaring mouse
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up and down, that is life
