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http://www.sinoquebec.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=1206194#post1206194
维权委员会通告三
经过数日努力，书包厂维权委员会的公众捐款账户正式开通，即日起接受各类捐款。现将账户信息通告如下：
开户银行：CIBC
注册名称：Chinese Equality Rights Association
机构性质：非营利公益组织（non-profit organization）
银行账号：01141 2198932
开通日期：2006年7月19日
收款种类：现金；支票
捐款方式：(1) 现金和支票请直接到银行柜台捐赠；
(2) 支票收款人为 “Chinese Equality Rights Association”
(3) 不具备接受在线转账功能。
捐款确认：确认收款人和帐号准确无误后方可捐款，捐款人可发电子邮件至官方信箱shubaochangweiquan@yahoo.com.cn确认捐款日期、数额、种类和相关要求。
捐款用途：(1) 用于支付7.11辱华事件律师费；
(2) 用于支付与维权相关的公益活动；
(3) 如有结余，成立专门基金会或转赠慈善团体。
账户监督：(1) 定期公布捐款数额；
(2) 定期通告款项用途；
(3) 聘请专业人士制订账户使用规定并执行。
特别提示：除非特别声明更正，本捐款账户为维权委员会唯一捐款账户。捐款时请在银行确认收款人名称，此账户不接收在线转账。
另外我们委托满城华人服务中心设立了捐款代接收点一处。
地址：满城华人服务中心四楼
987，rue cote 4e etage,
Montreal ,Qc H2Z 1L1
电话：(514)861-5244
传真：（514）861-9008
电子邮件：famillechinoise@hotmail.com
书包厂维权委员会
Chinese Equality Rights Association
2006年7月19日
http://www.sinoquebec.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=1206194#post1206194
维权委员会通告三
经过数日努力，书包厂维权委员会的公众捐款账户正式开通，即日起接受各类捐款。现将账户信息通告如下：
开户银行：CIBC
注册名称：Chinese Equality Rights Association
机构性质：非营利公益组织（non-profit organization）
银行账号：01141 2198932
开通日期：2006年7月19日
收款种类：现金；支票
捐款方式：(1) 现金和支票请直接到银行柜台捐赠；
(2) 支票收款人为 “Chinese Equality Rights Association”
(3) 不具备接受在线转账功能。
捐款确认：确认收款人和帐号准确无误后方可捐款，捐款人可发电子邮件至官方信箱shubaochangweiquan@yahoo.com.cn确认捐款日期、数额、种类和相关要求。
捐款用途：(1) 用于支付7.11辱华事件律师费；
(2) 用于支付与维权相关的公益活动；
(3) 如有结余，成立专门基金会或转赠慈善团体。
账户监督：(1) 定期公布捐款数额；
(2) 定期通告款项用途；
(3) 聘请专业人士制订账户使用规定并执行。
特别提示：除非特别声明更正，本捐款账户为维权委员会唯一捐款账户。捐款时请在银行确认收款人名称，此账户不接收在线转账。
另外我们委托满城华人服务中心设立了捐款代接收点一处。
地址：满城华人服务中心四楼
987，rue cote 4e etage,
Montreal ,Qc H2Z 1L1
电话：(514)861-5244
传真：（514）861-9008
电子邮件：famillechinoise@hotmail.com
书包厂维权委员会
Chinese Equality Rights Association
2006年7月19日
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作为中介，我们依然和书包厂保持着联系，在这里，向大家简要介绍一下书包厂方面的近况：
7月17日，二十多家单位或组织与steven联系，要求他对此次的事件作出解释；
7月18日，人数剧增，超过一百家的单位或组织与steven联系，要求他对此次事件作出解释，其中很多团体都要求正式的书面信函；
7月19日，steven召集所有员工开会，再一次就上周二的歧视事件向所有中国人道歉，并针对大家提出的一些要求在会后立即予以实施，其中包括：
1、指定专人增加打扫厨房卫生间的次数；
2、增加微波炉的数量，使每个人都能及时热上饭菜；
3、在室外添置桌椅，使员工有足够的位置就餐。
在这些和书包厂联系的团体中，包括大家最为期盼的中国大使馆人员，包括政府人权委员会，包括众多新闻媒体和一些社团机构，也包括书包厂在国内的供货商以及在加拿大的一些客户，他们将在近期与书包厂相关人员以及维权委员会的朋友会晤，相信会有更多的好消息传出来。
同时，针对不少新闻媒体向书包厂问及的支付现金的问题，在此我们想向大家说明，书包厂是支付给中介费用，然后由我们中介再支付给打工的朋友，书包厂和大多数打工的朋友没有直接雇佣关系，这点无法作为起诉书包厂非法用工的一个证据，反而会给书包厂多了一个驳斥的理由。
在目前的阶段，维权的道路依然艰巨，每天都有着无数的任务放在维权委员会的所有朋友面前，现金工是一个问题，但它绝不是现在的主要矛盾，它涉及到的只有更多的中国人，而伤害到的也是中国人，所以希望大家能够理性的看待它，在目前维权行动风起云涌之时，希望大家的目标一致对外，争取取得维权行动的彻底胜利，正如一位网友所说：“辱华事件，如果可以记入判例史册，日后会被无数法官律师援引。如果再有同类案件发生，只要报出原告 v. Calego International Inc. 这个判例，无需多言，事清理明。”
（在帖子的最后，刚刚听说，今天有中国朋友打电话到书包厂，用粗口责骂steven，在此号召大家一定要冷静下来，这样于事无补的冲动只会给维权行动带来很多不必要的麻烦。）
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作为中介，我们依然和书包厂保持着联系，在这里，向大家简要介绍一下书包厂方面的近况：
7月17日，二十多家单位或组织与steven联系，要求他对此次的事件作出解释；
7月18日，人数剧增，超过一百家的单位或组织与steven联系，要求他对此次事件作出解释，其中很多团体都要求正式的书面信函；
7月19日，steven召集所有员工开会，再一次就上周二的歧视事件向所有中国人道歉，并针对大家提出的一些要求在会后立即予以实施，其中包括：
1、指定专人增加打扫厨房卫生间的次数；
2、增加微波炉的数量，使每个人都能及时热上饭菜；
3、在室外添置桌椅，使员工有足够的位置就餐。
在这些和书包厂联系的团体中，包括大家最为期盼的中国大使馆人员，包括政府人权委员会，包括众多新闻媒体和一些社团机构，也包括书包厂在国内的供货商以及在加拿大的一些客户，他们将在近期与书包厂相关人员以及维权委员会的朋友会晤，相信会有更多的好消息传出来。
同时，针对不少新闻媒体向书包厂问及的支付现金的问题，在此我们想向大家说明，书包厂是支付给中介费用，然后由我们中介再支付给打工的朋友，书包厂和大多数打工的朋友没有直接雇佣关系，这点无法作为起诉书包厂非法用工的一个证据，反而会给书包厂多了一个驳斥的理由。
在目前的阶段，维权的道路依然艰巨，每天都有着无数的任务放在维权委员会的所有朋友面前，现金工是一个问题，但它绝不是现在的主要矛盾，它涉及到的只有更多的中国人，而伤害到的也是中国人，所以希望大家能够理性的看待它，在目前维权行动风起云涌之时，希望大家的目标一致对外，争取取得维权行动的彻底胜利，正如一位网友所说：“辱华事件，如果可以记入判例史册，日后会被无数法官律师援引。如果再有同类案件发生，只要报出原告 v. Calego International Inc. 这个判例，无需多言，事清理明。”
（在帖子的最后，刚刚听说，今天有中国朋友打电话到书包厂，用粗口责骂steven，在此号召大家一定要冷静下来，这样于事无补的冲动只会给维权行动带来很多不必要的麻烦。）
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Is this incidence considerred as a HATE CRIME? In Canada, Hate crime inculdes offense based on race, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, and disability etc. The offense can have many kinds and different severity.
As to the agent such as 海阔天空中介, if it's involved in any kind of business which potentially harms the interest of those chinese workers, it definately should not get away from it. What does it mean--- "现金工"? what does it mean that the plant pays the agent first and then the agent pays the workers? Pay by cash? Don't the workers have SIN#s? Why does it sound so shady? Will this agent protect the interest of Chinese workers or will it actually facilitate any kind of discrimination without providing any employment protection to the workers? What does it mean---"现金工是一个问题，但它绝不是现在的主要矛盾，它涉及到的只有更多的中国人，而伤害到的也是中国人，所以希望大家能够理性的看待它."? How could getting rid of one more problem harm more Chinese?! Does it mean that it is correct or better for Chinese to let more and more chinese workers underpaid while working overload and getting less or no employment benefit? What kind of "理性" is this?!
Even if those workers are involved in any kind of tax evasion, that is a separate incidence and apparantly both employer(primary employer and agent) and employees are involved. As such, how could the primary employer use the pay issue to hurt his own case if one day he is challenged in court?! Don't protect shady employment agent with the name of protecting Chinese! The existence of shady discriminatory employment agent is itself a helping hand for more humiliation, discrimination and insult. If there was any kind of tax evasion scheme, the workers would actually be victims and they should not have anything to be afraid of. There are Judges making decisions in courts, and they do consider specific circumstances. Those workers are usually low income individuals and from vulnerable group. If there were any punishement from the tax evasion, it should go to the primary employer and the employment agent, and it won't harm more chinese workers. Instead, resolving this issue will increase the wage and benefit more current and future workers.
How are those workers paid? If they are paid in an "illegal" way or very much underpaid, that is more than an offense. If employment agent got involved in this underpay scheme, it should be punished, because it ganged up with bad guys(primary employer) to discriminate and take advantage of chinese workers. So, if there is something wrong about the pay/benefit, both the primary employer and employment agent would be the defendents. How could it harm more Chinese?!
As to the agent such as 海阔天空中介, if it's involved in any kind of business which potentially harms the interest of those chinese workers, it definately should not get away from it. What does it mean--- "现金工"? what does it mean that the plant pays the agent first and then the agent pays the workers? Pay by cash? Don't the workers have SIN#s? Why does it sound so shady? Will this agent protect the interest of Chinese workers or will it actually facilitate any kind of discrimination without providing any employment protection to the workers? What does it mean---"现金工是一个问题，但它绝不是现在的主要矛盾，它涉及到的只有更多的中国人，而伤害到的也是中国人，所以希望大家能够理性的看待它."? How could getting rid of one more problem harm more Chinese?! Does it mean that it is correct or better for Chinese to let more and more chinese workers underpaid while working overload and getting less or no employment benefit? What kind of "理性" is this?!
Even if those workers are involved in any kind of tax evasion, that is a separate incidence and apparantly both employer(primary employer and agent) and employees are involved. As such, how could the primary employer use the pay issue to hurt his own case if one day he is challenged in court?! Don't protect shady employment agent with the name of protecting Chinese! The existence of shady discriminatory employment agent is itself a helping hand for more humiliation, discrimination and insult. If there was any kind of tax evasion scheme, the workers would actually be victims and they should not have anything to be afraid of. There are Judges making decisions in courts, and they do consider specific circumstances. Those workers are usually low income individuals and from vulnerable group. If there were any punishement from the tax evasion, it should go to the primary employer and the employment agent, and it won't harm more chinese workers. Instead, resolving this issue will increase the wage and benefit more current and future workers.
How are those workers paid? If they are paid in an "illegal" way or very much underpaid, that is more than an offense. If employment agent got involved in this underpay scheme, it should be punished, because it ganged up with bad guys(primary employer) to discriminate and take advantage of chinese workers. So, if there is something wrong about the pay/benefit, both the primary employer and employment agent would be the defendents. How could it harm more Chinese?!
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CBC NEWS AT SIX 07/21/2006
News anchor: And in other news tonight.
Quebec’s Human Rights Commission is starting a complaint of discrimination in the work place. The case involves a Montreal import company and members of the Chinese community. ***(Name of reporter) has that story.
Reporter: *** is a 70-year old import company. It hires seasonal workers in its warehouse, usually new immigrants.
Female Worker: This is my first job, first work experience in Montreal. It’s a terrible experience.
Reporter: These immigrants from China have just quit their jobs at Calego. They’d only been working about a week or so when they were called to a meeting with a translator. That was ten days ago. They allege the company’s president made these remarks.
Female Worker: We should flush the toilet after we use it. And I even heard he said that you can’t piss on the floor. And then he said, “This is my kitchen! You Chinese eat like pigs!”
Company: I yelled. I yelled too loudly. After I yelled, I realized I was wrong. I apologized to everyone collectively.
Reporter: Notices posted in the washrooms refer to Canadian standards of hygiene. But Stephen Rapps denies allegations of discrimination.
Company: I never made a derogatory statement. I never said “You Chinese”, I never said any of that. It might have been lost in the translation. That’s a possibility. And I don’t know because I don’t speak Chinese.
Female Worker: "This is my kitchen. You Chinese eat like pigs!" These words she didn't translate. She doesn't want to translate it at all. I noticed this.
Reporter: The group is now seeking legal help.
Workers' volunteer: The law says everybody has a right to the safeguard of dignity, reputation and honor.
Company: I’m very upset that this has gone the way it has gone because it’s not me, and it’s not true.
Reporter: A complaint has been filed with the Quebec Human Rights Commission. It will study whether the allegation against Calego marries the investigation.
***, CBC NEWS Montreal.
CBC NEWS AT SIX 07/21/2006
News anchor: And in other news tonight.
Quebec’s Human Rights Commission is starting a complaint of discrimination in the work place. The case involves a Montreal import company and members of the Chinese community. ***(Name of reporter) has that story.
Reporter: *** is a 70-year old import company. It hires seasonal workers in its warehouse, usually new immigrants.
Female Worker: This is my first job, first work experience in Montreal. It’s a terrible experience.
Reporter: These immigrants from China have just quit their jobs at Calego. They’d only been working about a week or so when they were called to a meeting with a translator. That was ten days ago. They allege the company’s president made these remarks.
Female Worker: We should flush the toilet after we use it. And I even heard he said that you can’t piss on the floor. And then he said, “This is my kitchen! You Chinese eat like pigs!”
Company: I yelled. I yelled too loudly. After I yelled, I realized I was wrong. I apologized to everyone collectively.
Reporter: Notices posted in the washrooms refer to Canadian standards of hygiene. But Stephen Rapps denies allegations of discrimination.
Company: I never made a derogatory statement. I never said “You Chinese”, I never said any of that. It might have been lost in the translation. That’s a possibility. And I don’t know because I don’t speak Chinese.
Female Worker: "This is my kitchen. You Chinese eat like pigs!" These words she didn't translate. She doesn't want to translate it at all. I noticed this.
Reporter: The group is now seeking legal help.
Workers' volunteer: The law says everybody has a right to the safeguard of dignity, reputation and honor.
Company: I’m very upset that this has gone the way it has gone because it’s not me, and it’s not true.
Reporter: A complaint has been filed with the Quebec Human Rights Commission. It will study whether the allegation against Calego marries the investigation.
***, CBC NEWS Montreal.
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加拿大GLOBAL TV的电视新闻报道
Global TV News at Six July/20/2006
Calego - Discrimination?
News Anchor: A group of Chinese switch-off workers is accusing a Montreal company of discrimination. They claimed their boss insulted them. And they’ve called on the human rights commission to investigate it. ***(Name of reporter) has the story.
Female Worker: I just worked for more than one week and….and…..met this….
Reporter: It was ***(name of the female worker)’s first job in Canada, and she quit after just one week. Ten fellow workers did the same because of how they say their boss treated them.
Male interpreter: He was very very angry, and he’s just like “This is my kitchen.” Then, he came like “YOU…CHINESE…EAT…LIKE…PIGS!”
Reporter: What’s more, these ethnic employees claimed they were told to stop urinating on the floors, and in Canada you have to bathe more often.
Male interpreter: And she (female worker) said that…the President’s words are not only the insult against the Chinese workers only, but also against the Chinese community.
Company: I apologize to everyone.
Reporter: ***’s President admits that he spoke loudly, but denies making any racism remarks.
Company: We have a few hot days if we remember last week. And, the warehouse was in a total mess, an absolute mess. So, I gathered all of the employees in the back.
Reporter: Stephen Rapps used the help of a Chinese interpreter to tell the employees to clean up.
Company: I don’t speak Chinese.
Reporter: He suggests that the translation may have been off.
Company: It’s upsetting because at no time IN MY LIFE have I ever used racism or derogatory terms. NEVER IN MY LIFE!!!
Reporter: *** is now considering a lawsuit for slander, but that won’t stop these workers in their search for justice.
Female worker: We will go on…
Reporter: ***(Name) and his colleagues are convinced their former boss violated the Quebec Charter of Rights.
Male interpreter: His logic is like this...I am Chinese, and then I eat like pigs??? So, it’s totally unacceptable.
Reporter: The Human Rights Commission has received the complaint, but hasn’t yet launched an official investigation. At the meantime, the group of employees is trying to launch a class action lawsuit. But first, they need to find a lawyer.
Global news in Montreal, I am *** in reporting.
Global TV News at Six July/20/2006
Calego - Discrimination?
News Anchor: A group of Chinese switch-off workers is accusing a Montreal company of discrimination. They claimed their boss insulted them. And they’ve called on the human rights commission to investigate it. ***(Name of reporter) has the story.
Female Worker: I just worked for more than one week and….and…..met this….
Reporter: It was ***(name of the female worker)’s first job in Canada, and she quit after just one week. Ten fellow workers did the same because of how they say their boss treated them.
Male interpreter: He was very very angry, and he’s just like “This is my kitchen.” Then, he came like “YOU…CHINESE…EAT…LIKE…PIGS!”
Reporter: What’s more, these ethnic employees claimed they were told to stop urinating on the floors, and in Canada you have to bathe more often.
Male interpreter: And she (female worker) said that…the President’s words are not only the insult against the Chinese workers only, but also against the Chinese community.
Company: I apologize to everyone.
Reporter: ***’s President admits that he spoke loudly, but denies making any racism remarks.
Company: We have a few hot days if we remember last week. And, the warehouse was in a total mess, an absolute mess. So, I gathered all of the employees in the back.
Reporter: Stephen Rapps used the help of a Chinese interpreter to tell the employees to clean up.
Company: I don’t speak Chinese.
Reporter: He suggests that the translation may have been off.
Company: It’s upsetting because at no time IN MY LIFE have I ever used racism or derogatory terms. NEVER IN MY LIFE!!!
Reporter: *** is now considering a lawsuit for slander, but that won’t stop these workers in their search for justice.
Female worker: We will go on…
Reporter: ***(Name) and his colleagues are convinced their former boss violated the Quebec Charter of Rights.
Male interpreter: His logic is like this...I am Chinese, and then I eat like pigs??? So, it’s totally unacceptable.
Reporter: The Human Rights Commission has received the complaint, but hasn’t yet launched an official investigation. At the meantime, the group of employees is trying to launch a class action lawsuit. But first, they need to find a lawyer.
Global news in Montreal, I am *** in reporting.
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经过一周努力，终于在英文主流媒体上将这次事件曝光。
That Steven is accusing worker slanderring?! So typical. If he is a dishonest person, people have to use legal ways to deal with him. An honorable person would not incur this kind of trouble in the first place.
The workers should not be afraid if they all give truthful statements and affidavit. There does not seem to be a motive for the Chinese interpretor to lie. What does he mean--"lost in the translation"?! The account seems to be very clear that the interpretor did not even try to translate such an insult. Also, such a simple foul language and easy words can be understood by most of new immigrants. which immigrant does not understand the English words such as "PIG","YOU","CHINESE","LIKE" etc ?! The new immigrants might have language issue but they are not illiterates and they do know some English words, I believe.
If this steven lied in court or during deposition, he would be considered to have perjury.
As to bathroom issue, if the working place itself originally had bad condition or poor maintainance, the employee/workers are not ones to be blamed. Workers in a plant need to use bathroom, just like anybody else. If nobody was hired to timely clean the bathroom, it will natually be filthy, just like any kind of public bathroom which has little or no maintanence. It's a bathroom and bathroom is never a clean place. To females who do not know, all bathrooms for males has urine on the floor close or around urinals, or toilet bowls, and that's natural. Men usually do not sit on the bowl to pee, and splashing is inevitable, and no man is expected to wipe off the splash on the floor after peeing.
If this Steven had harrassment such as "don't pee on the floor", that is WRONG. Can anyone find an example that a normal adult individual PEE ON THE FLOOR? Did this Steven see any worker peeing on the floor? That sounds so rediculous the first moment when it's said.
The workers should not be afraid if they all give truthful statements and affidavit. There does not seem to be a motive for the Chinese interpretor to lie. What does he mean--"lost in the translation"?! The account seems to be very clear that the interpretor did not even try to translate such an insult. Also, such a simple foul language and easy words can be understood by most of new immigrants. which immigrant does not understand the English words such as "PIG","YOU","CHINESE","LIKE" etc ?! The new immigrants might have language issue but they are not illiterates and they do know some English words, I believe.
If this steven lied in court or during deposition, he would be considered to have perjury.
As to bathroom issue, if the working place itself originally had bad condition or poor maintainance, the employee/workers are not ones to be blamed. Workers in a plant need to use bathroom, just like anybody else. If nobody was hired to timely clean the bathroom, it will natually be filthy, just like any kind of public bathroom which has little or no maintanence. It's a bathroom and bathroom is never a clean place. To females who do not know, all bathrooms for males has urine on the floor close or around urinals, or toilet bowls, and that's natural. Men usually do not sit on the bowl to pee, and splashing is inevitable, and no man is expected to wipe off the splash on the floor after peeing.
If this Steven had harrassment such as "don't pee on the floor", that is WRONG. Can anyone find an example that a normal adult individual PEE ON THE FLOOR? Did this Steven see any worker peeing on the floor? That sounds so rediculous the first moment when it's said.
Have the workers found legal counselors? It does not seem to be a
tough case, especially when this steven said on TV(according to the transcript above) that he never said those things that workers alleged he had screamed in their faces. If the workers' account is true and real, they should prevail in court and this steven should pay for the legal fees and the damages.
tough case, especially when this steven said on TV(according to the transcript above) that he never said those things that workers alleged he had screamed in their faces. If the workers' account is true and real, they should prevail in court and this steven should pay for the legal fees and the damages.
