请教Ottawa 现在 IT工作好找吗?

搬来渥太华之前必读

最初由 jyfamily 发布
谢谢你的鼓励,我们会直面的,而且,我LG也破釜沉舟的说,走吧,我们,不要回头!

真诚建议: 在来渥太华之前, 请找一份联邦政府的工作 (必须是 permanent position or indeterminate position, 切记 term position 绝对不能要)。

After you have made the move, please make sure your family is doing all the best to integrate into the Canadian culture, or let me say it bluntly -- the Westerner culture, or to be more specific, the "White people" culture. That means, from that point onward, your family should only make "White people" friends, speak only either English or French, cut your family off from all of the Chinese heritage, don't bother to send your children to Chinese school, and to always remind yourself that everyone in your family is determined to become a Canadian, not a Chinese-Canadian.

What I see here in Ottawa is that people who are still hanging on too much to their Chinese past are deeply regretted their decision to move to Ottawa, as this place is totally different than anywhere in China. This reality makes our fellow Chinese friends very difficult to adjust their new life in Ottawa and therefore bitterness starts growing in their hearts.

If you and your family simply want to become citizens in Canada and still want live 100% in Chinese style, then please consider moving to Toronto or GTA (Greater Toronto Area), where the IT industry, which you have been talking about, is always the hottest in Canada.

However, if your family knows what you want, and have a clear vision about why you want to move to Ottawa and have a feasible plan to make it work, then Ottawa welcomes you and your family.

The bottom line is: we don’t want to see your family regrets the decision of moving to Ottawa, especially a few years after the fact. And what make it worse is: your family may no longer has the energy, money and other resources to move away, and therefore, being stuck in here.
 
想试试就试试,路是自己走的,谁也不知道将来会怎样。不怕后悔,但不要遗憾。
 
我是指德洲 达拉斯 或 奥斯汀。目前那边就业形势不错。不过等拿公民后再说吧,还是公民重要。

Ottawa曾号称北方硅谷,要和加洲一拼。但电信行业一蹶不振,使Ottawa几大电信公司特别是NORTEL狼狈不堪,并抑制整个地区的IT业复苏,目前还没有迹象表明NORTEL会走出泥沼,所以别指望会有大量IT就业机会


最初由 jyfamily 发布
我们还没拿到公民,去美国可能要过些年头了,不过你的提议倒是给了我们未来十年规划的展望,只是目前Ottawa是我们最适合的了。另外你为什么认为Ottawa IT前景不乐观呢?

 
感谢大师指点!

最初由 踏雪无痕 发布
我是指德洲 达拉斯 或 奥斯汀。目前那边就业形势不错。不过等拿公民后再说吧,还是公民重要。

Ottawa曾号称北方硅谷,要和加洲一拼。但电信行业一蹶不振,使Ottawa几大电信公司特别是NORTEL狼狈不堪,并抑制整个地区的IT业复苏,目前还没有迹象表明NORTEL会走出泥沼,所以别指望会有大量IT就业机会


 
Re: 搬来渥太华之前必读

有感于您的洋洋洒洒论述,也很相信关于white people culture的说法,多谢!

最初由 沙河粉 发布


真诚建议: 在来渥太华之前, 请找一份联邦政府的工作 (必须是 permanent position or indeterminate position, 切记 term position 绝对不能要)。

After you have made the move, please make sure your family is doing all the best to integrate into the Canadian culture, or let me say it bluntly -- the Westerner culture, or to be more specific, the "White people" culture. That means, from that point onward, your family should only make "White people" friends, speak only either English or French, cut your family off from all of the Chinese heritage, don't bother to send your children to Chinese school, and to always remind yourself that everyone in your family is determined to become a Canadian, not a Chinese-Canadian.

What I see here in Ottawa is that people who are still hanging on too much to their Chinese past are deeply regretted their decision to move to Ottawa, as this place is totally different than anywhere in China. This reality makes our fellow Chinese friends very difficult to adjust their new life in Ottawa and therefore bitterness starts growing in their hearts.

If you and your family simply want to become citizens in Canada and still want live 100% in Chinese style, then please consider moving to Toronto or GTA (Greater Toronto Area), where the IT industry, which you have been talking about, is always the hottest in Canada.

However, if your family knows what you want, and have a clear vision about why you want to move to Ottawa and have a feasible plan to make it work, then Ottawa welcomes you and your family.

The bottom line is: we don’t want to see your family regrets the decision of moving to Ottawa, especially a few years after the fact. And what make it worse is: your family may no longer has the energy, money and other resources to move away, and therefore, being stuck in here.
 
也没啥好后悔的

OTTAWA上衔MONTREAL,下接TORONTO--加国最大的两个城市(当然M市是讲法语的),实在不行,还有后路.
 
Re: 搬来渥太华之前必读




真诚建议:

The bottom line is: we don’t want to see your family regrets the decision of moving to Ottawa, especially a few years after the fact. And what make it worse is: your family may no longer has the energy, money and other resources to move away, and therefore, being stuck in here.
Sooner or later, we all stuck somewhere: either in ottawa/Canada, or in China.
人挪活,树挪死。只要年轻(45-50岁以上最好别挪了),只要肯拼搏,迁移到哪儿也不怕。人生如果总怕后悔,那就什么都别干。干任何事都有可能成功,也可能失败。大不了再从新开始。就是失败了,至少还有了教训。你自己这辈子用不上,还可以传给儿孙辈。我的人生哲学,如果是钱能解决的问题,而且这钱你也出得起,那就不成为问题;或者说不应当成为做决策的决定因素。倒是许多非金钱问题值得深思。如求学,求职,择偶等。我体会在加拿大想混好,要英语好(能说能写),有一技之长,社交能力强,有自信心, 再加点运气。祝楼主一家好运。
Good luck!
 
Re: Re: 搬来渥太华之前必读

最初由 Country on wheel 发布

Sooner or later, we all stuck somewhere: either in ottawa/Canada, or in China.
人挪活,树挪死。只要年轻(45-50岁以上最好别挪了),只要肯拼搏,迁移到哪儿也不怕。人生如果总怕后悔,那就什么都别干。干任何事都有可能成功,也可能失败。大不了再从新开始。就是失败了,至少还有了教训。你自己这辈子用不上,还可以传给儿孙辈。我的人生哲学,如果是钱能解决的问题,而且这钱你也出得起,那就不成为问题;或者说不应当成为做决策的决定因素。倒是许多非金钱问题值得深思。如求学,求职,择偶等。我体会在加拿大想混好,要英语好(能说能写),有一技之长,社交能力强,有自信心, 再加点运气。祝楼主一家好运。
Good luck!

但是为什么不用别人失败了得到的教训?非要自己再弄一遍?
 
Re: Re: Re: 搬来渥太华之前必读

最初由 如假包换的马甲 发布


但是为什么不用别人失败了得到的教训?非要自己再弄一遍?
Good question.
我以为一个人和另一个人的条件,基础,经历,志向等不同, 故结果可能也不同。别人失败了,不一定你就不能成功。俗语说:只有状元徒弟,没有状元师傅。世界冠军的教练不一定都是世界冠军,诺贝尔奖得主的老师也不一定都是诺贝尔奖得主。照理,老师都没成功,学生就该放弃努力了?
最主要的,别忘了好运气。人常说,在北美找工作,85%靠运气,15%靠本事。你的本事就是运气来时你能抓住它。而命运女神对每个人的光顾机率是有天壤之别的。有的人是守株待兔地等运气,而有的人是大海捞针地到处找运气。究竟哪种方式更有效,仁者见仁,智者见智。
 
I don't think your french is very helpful to you job search here except you can speak feench very fluently..
 
Re: Re: 搬来渥太华之前必读

Thank you for your advice, really agree with your philosophy.

最初由 Country on wheel 发布

Sooner or later, we all stuck somewhere: either in ottawa/Canada, or in China.
人挪活,树挪死。只要年轻(45-50岁以上最好别挪了),只要肯拼搏,迁移到哪儿也不怕。人生如果总怕后悔,那就什么都别干。干任何事都有可能成功,也可能失败。大不了再从新开始。就是失败了,至少还有了教训。你自己这辈子用不上,还可以传给儿孙辈。我的人生哲学,如果是钱能解决的问题,而且这钱你也出得起,那就不成为问题;或者说不应当成为做决策的决定因素。倒是许多非金钱问题值得深思。如求学,求职,择偶等。我体会在加拿大想混好,要英语好(能说能写),有一技之长,社交能力强,有自信心, 再加点运气。祝楼主一家好运。
Good luck!
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: 搬来渥太华之前必读

Agree, so far we haven't had any negative feelings in job searching, hopefully we can have at least the same luck as in Calgary.

最初由 Country on wheel 发布

Good question.
我以为一个人和另一个人的条件,基础,经历,志向等不同, 故结果可能也不同。别人失败了,不一定你就不能成功。俗语说:只有状元徒弟,没有状元师傅。世界冠军的教练不一定都是世界冠军,诺贝尔奖得主的老师也不一定都是诺贝尔奖得主。照理,老师都没成功,学生就该放弃努力了?
最主要的,别忘了好运气。人常说,在北美找工作,85%靠运气,15%靠本事。你的本事就是运气来时你能抓住它。而命运女神对每个人的光顾机率是有天壤之别的。有的人是守株待兔地等运气,而有的人是大海捞针地到处找运气。究竟哪种方式更有效,仁者见仁,智者见智。
 
楼主肯定是铁了心了,大家还是建议建议他们在哪买房子吧 :D
 
真的非常感谢大家的一席话,有让我们来的,有不让我们来的,也有建议我们做一番自我改造的,觉得正反两方面的意见都有道理,就象02年网络泡沫破裂时代,如果一个移民想来加拿大又有幸上了一个中文论坛问大家要不要来的话,估计10个里就有10个人会劝他不要来,但还是有人来了,也还是有人找到了工作,这其中就有我们.
我们这次选择首都也是做了一番调研,感觉就算不一定马上找到工作,可能经过一些培训什么的,也会最终找到,朋友们建议我们不要冒险的好心我们也心领了,的确谁愿意过朝不保夕的生活呢,只是我们感觉动一动的时候到了,也有信心首都不会太让我们失望的,而且至少这一次不会象第一次移民遇到的cultural shock这么大吧.
 
好主意,你们都买哪儿的房子
,我们也好往那儿凑一凑

最初由 Rabbit 发布
楼主肯定是铁了心了,大家还是建议建议他们在哪买房子吧 :D
 
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