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最初由 hxp417 发布
I love 贱小贱 (Sage) !!

Take care of your head, 小贱贱's husband is coming to hit you guys!
 
最初由 terry 发布


Take care of your head, 小贱贱's husband is coming to hit you guys!

I'm surprised by your understanding of LOVE in the context, it can be fraternal love, human love, universal love, what is yours?
 
喂喂,回到题目上好不好?
 
最初由 小贱贱 发布
喂喂,回到题目上好不好?
怎么象咱茶馆的风格呀,呵呵:D
 
真搞不懂竟然这么多人对言论自由投反对票,我本以为会是0票.我真为你们羞耻,投票反对的人们!

不过楼上那个Klin我总觉得有捣乱的嫌疑,去拿一个顶线的问题来搅合底线,而且顶线也只谈了半断.好象这WEB SERVER 是联邦政府的财产一样.依我看,大佬的银子和心情也是顶线.大佬银子不够或者心情不好的话再合法的言论都没用,左营右营都闭嘴!如果我是大佬的话现在的顶线已经破了,我会给或者不给64个理由,然后关门过自己的小日子.俺真PF大佬

对于左侧线右侧线前端线后端线各位还有补充的没有?对了,四维空间里的线也别忘了
 
最初由 无业游民 发布
真搞不懂竟然这么多人对言论自由投反对票,我本以为会是0票.我真为你们羞耻,投票反对的人们!

不过楼上那个Klin我总觉得有捣乱的嫌疑,去拿一个顶线的问题来搅合底线,而且顶线也只谈了半断.好象这WEB SERVER 是联邦政府的财产一样.依我看,大佬的银子和心情也是顶线.大佬银子不够或者心情不好的话再合法的言论都没用,左营右营都闭嘴!如果我是大佬的话现在的顶线已经破了,我会给或者不给64个理由,然后关门过自己的小日子.俺真PF大佬

对于左侧线右侧线前端线后端线各位还有补充的没有?对了,四维空间里的线也别忘了

什么叫顶线?没有听说过。

“好象这WEB SERVER 是联邦政府的财产一样”这话从哪里说起?难道遵守加国法律就把服务器变成联邦政府的财产?那么多遵守加国法律的媒体,把联邦政府骂得狗血淋头难道也是政府的喉舌不成?

Riven曾经说过,网站是他个人的,但论坛是大家的。一个论坛的好坏兴衰和参与它的人密不可分。畅所欲言,把这里变成海外华人的精神家园就是论坛的最高宗旨。你把riven的个人心情喜好作为论坛的发展决定因素,是在违背他和所有支持过他的朋友的初衷,说得不好听,这叫“捧杀”。
 
最初由 无业游民 发布
真搞不懂竟然这么多人对言论自由投反对票,我本以为会是0票.我真为你们羞耻,投票反对的人们!

不过楼上那个Klin我总觉得有捣乱的嫌疑,去拿一个顶线的问题来搅合底线,而且顶线也只谈了半断.好象这WEB SERVER 是联邦政府的财产一样.依我看,大佬的银子和心情也是顶线.大佬银子不够或者心情不好的话再合法的言论都没用,左营右营都闭嘴!如果我是大佬的话现在的顶线已经破了,我会给或者不给64个理由,然后关门过自己的小日子.俺真PF大佬

对于左侧线右侧线前端线后端线各位还有补充的没有?对了,四维空间里的线也别忘了

站长赋闲在家的时候,既没有银子也没有好心情,但网站哪天停过?你的意思就是站长是否有顶线要看他是否有闲钱?是否心情好?这么说让人觉得你太小看站长的心胸和志向了,而且你有什么权利和资格让左右营的爷们儿“闭嘴”?等哪天你是站长了,大家自然停止发言。
 
最初由 小贱贱 发布
Do you think the right to freely express your opinions in this forum is the bottom line? Bottom line as I understand means that it is the least that we could do.

One thing I left out in this vote is that the freedom of expression should still be bounded within the guidelines of this forum, but I thought this was understood: any games must have rules. However a bottom line is a bottom line, no matter how you interpret it.

Is this clear enough?
就是说符合论坛规则的言论自由是论坛的底线?当然。关键是对这个论坛规则在具体情况下的诠释。
 
先定下底线再讨论细节。

论坛规则:
1.请正确使用语言,严禁粗俗谩骂。
2.严禁人身攻击。
3.不允许商业广告。
4.请正确选择主题论坛,不要一帖多发

贴64的照片违反了以上哪一条规定?如果斑竹连最起码的底线都不能提供,这个版还有任何存在的价值吗?
 
别忘了在注册时还有个更广泛的论坛规定。包罗万象,这底线的浮动范围太大了,特别是第4,5条 ;)

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"FIRST AMENDEMENT"可在下面连接中看到原文.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment01/

The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the right to freedom of religion and freedom of expression from government interference. See U.S. Const. amend. I. Freedom of expression consists of the rights to freedom of speech, press, assembly and to petition the government for a redress of grievances, and the implied rights of association and belief. The Supreme Court interprets the extent of the protection afforded to these rights. The First Amendment has been interpreted by the Court as applying to the entire federal government even though it is only expressly applicable to Congress. Furthermore, the Court has interpreted, the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment as protecting the rights in the First Amendment from interference by state governments. See U.S. Const. amend. XIV.

Two clauses in the First Amendment guarantee freedom of religion. The establishment clause prohibits the government from passing legislation to establish an official religion or preferring one religion over another. It enforces the "separation of church and state. Some governmental activity related to religion has been declared constitutional by the Supreme Court. For example, providing bus transportation for parochial school students and the enforcement of "blue laws" is not prohibited. The free exercise clause prohibits the government, in most instances, from interfering with a persons practice of their religion.

The most basic component of freedom of expression is the right of freedom of speech. The right to freedom of speech allows individuals to express themselves without interference or constraint by the government. The Supreme Court requires the government to provide substantial justification for the interference with the right of free speech where it attempts to regulate the content of the speech. A less stringent test is applied for content-neutral legislation. The Supreme Court has also recognized that the government may prohibit some speech that may cause a breach of the peace or cause violence. The right to free speech includes other mediums of expression that communicates a message.

Despite popular misunderstanding the right to freedom of the press guaranteed by the first amendment is not very different from the right to freedom of speech. It allows an individual to express themselves through publication and dissemination. It is part of the constitutional protection of freedom of expression. It does not afford members of the media any special rights or privileges not afforded to citizens in general.

The right to assemble allows people to gather for peaceful and lawful purposes. Implicit within this right is the right to association and belief. The Supreme Court has expressly recognized that a right to freedom of association and belief is implicit in the First, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments. This implicit right is limited to the right to associate for First Amendment purposes. It does not include a right of social association. The government may prohibit people from knowingly associating in groups that engage and promote illegal activities. The right to associate also prohibits the government from requiring a group to register or disclose its members or from denying government benefits on the based on an individuals current or past membership in a particular group. There are exceptions to this rule where the Court finds that governmental interests in disclosure/registration outweigh interference with first amendment rights. The government may also, generally, not compel individuals to express themselves, hold certain beliefs, or belong to particular associations or groups.

"First Amendment"保障了人们信仰,言论,结社的自由权利,但并不是说想说什么就可以说什么.上面红色字就给出了对某些言论政府可以禁止. 美国是三权鼎立的政体.这也是Supreme Court拥有对First Amendment解释权的原因.

此外,First Amendment中也阐述了言论自由与国家安全之间的平衡.这既是对言论自由的保护,也是对言论自由的限定.

此外,在商业活动中的言论,一些商人用misleading的言论或出版物,也是不能得到"言论自由"保护的.
 
最初由 enjoy 发布
别忘了在注册时还有个更广泛的论坛规定。包罗万象,这底线的浮动范围太大了,特别是第4,5条 ;)

在这个论坛注册是完全免费的!我们希望您遵守以下的论坛规定.请仔细阅读下列条款.如果您同意请按 "同意" 按钮;如果您不同意,请按 "取消" 按钮退出.

1、遵守加拿大的各项有关法律法规;
2、承担一切因您的行为而直接或间接导致的民事或刑事法律责任;
3、互相尊重,遵守互联网络道德;严禁互相恶意攻击,漫骂;
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40终于把火引到RIVEN头上了。我要是这么干,又得说我拿RIVEN吓人:(
 
最初由 enjoy 发布
别忘了在注册时还有个更广泛的论坛规定。包罗万象,这底线的浮动范围太大了,特别是第4,5条 ;)

在这个论坛注册是完全免费的!我们希望您遵守以下的论坛规定.请仔细阅读下列条款.如果您同意请按 "同意" 按钮;如果您不同意,请按 "取消" 按钮退出.

1、遵守加拿大的各项有关法律法规;
2、承担一切因您的行为而直接或间接导致的民事或刑事法律责任;
3、互相尊重,遵守互联网络道德;严禁互相恶意攻击,漫骂;
4、管理员及版主有权保留或删除论坛中的任意内容;
5、本站管理员拥有一切管理权力.

不同论坛,开办目的不同,服务群体不同,因而,论坛规则也不同. 论坛发言的底线,应该是论坛规则,而不是基于美国宪法规定的言论自由.
 
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