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工作后,还有些证书要考.CMA是不是最牛的?!
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工作好找的很，工资不是很好
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CA或者 CMA
会计一定要读本科，千万不要读ALGONQUIN，读完本科后找到相关工作机会，积累够
工作时间，拿个CA或者 CMA的证书，CGA就算了，太多人有CGA了，拿到CA或者CMA后
每年大概能拿到7万或8万吧。我认识好多CA有5年左右的工作经验后可以在公司拿到
8万到10万的工资。如果在政府，本科的新毕业生可以拿到4万5，拿到会计证书的可
以拿到6万到7万，跳到SENIOR LEVEL的会计在政府的工资是7万到8万5左右。一点也
不比作IT的人少。
如果拿不到会计证书，只能找BOOKKEEPER或者较低LEVEL的会计工作，那一年大概就
是2万到3万。
会计一定要读本科，千万不要读ALGONQUIN，读完本科后找到相关工作机会，积累够
工作时间，拿个CA或者 CMA的证书，CGA就算了，太多人有CGA了，拿到CA或者CMA后
每年大概能拿到7万或8万吧。我认识好多CA有5年左右的工作经验后可以在公司拿到
8万到10万的工资。如果在政府，本科的新毕业生可以拿到4万5，拿到会计证书的可
以拿到6万到7万，跳到SENIOR LEVEL的会计在政府的工资是7万到8万5左右。一点也
不比作IT的人少。
如果拿不到会计证书，只能找BOOKKEEPER或者较低LEVEL的会计工作，那一年大概就
是2万到3万。
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可能我上边写的拿到CA或者CMA后每年大概能拿到7万或8万的属于做的比较顺利的人，
但是拿到CA或者CMA后至少每年也能有5万多或者6万多吧。比如拿了CA(顺利的话本
科毕业3年后应该就能拿到CA)后，就算在渥太华的会计师事务所年薪也能有5万以上，
在多伦多应该在6万左右。
但是拿到CA或者CMA后至少每年也能有5万多或者6万多吧。比如拿了CA(顺利的话本
科毕业3年后应该就能拿到CA)后，就算在渥太华的会计师事务所年薪也能有5万以上，
在多伦多应该在6万左右。
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拿CA和CGA比较难一点, 因为CA你要在CA指定的公司里做它才承认你的工作时间. 而且做好几年的AUDITING比较闷. 而CGA就比较TECHNICAL, 所学的各门会计的学科都比较深, 适合会计专业的人去选修. 一般中国人的数字和LOGIC比较强, 所以选读CGA的多过CMA.
CMA吗, 也不错, 一般是没什么会计背景的人想读个会计职称去学. 你只要有个BCOMM的学位(不需要会计专业, 只要简单的几门会计课), 就可以上它的7个月的ACCELERATED PROGRAM. 然后考个ENTRANCE EXAM, 再读个两年的LEADERSHIP PROGRAM就搞定了.
关于拿到CA, CGA或CMA能拿多少工资. 私营企业里这没个定数, RANGE很大. 即使是政府工, 有没有这些职称也没多大的关系. 它的工资是看你的工种和级别.
CMA吗, 也不错, 一般是没什么会计背景的人想读个会计职称去学. 你只要有个BCOMM的学位(不需要会计专业, 只要简单的几门会计课), 就可以上它的7个月的ACCELERATED PROGRAM. 然后考个ENTRANCE EXAM, 再读个两年的LEADERSHIP PROGRAM就搞定了.
关于拿到CA, CGA或CMA能拿多少工资. 私营企业里这没个定数, RANGE很大. 即使是政府工, 有没有这些职称也没多大的关系. 它的工资是看你的工种和级别.
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事倍功半,三思而后行啊!
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做CA其实不错。
- 基本上在accounting firm里面做到manager,跳槽会跳到industry manager - controller 得职位。年薪至少8-9万。
- 如果做到senior manager，跳槽可跳到CEO, CFO到controller。年薪至少10万。
- 退一万步说，如果做到senior，跳槽可跳到account manager等职位，年薪差不多7万左右。
- auditing很锻炼人。是一段难得的经验。虽然苦点，但收获匪浅。
- 如果日后打算回国，年薪可以起价很高。如果日后打算深造，如在四大做过，比较好申请学校。
风险在于：
- 不过很多人不喜欢auditing, 你会痛苦的熬5年才会做到manager，再熬3年，做到senior manager.
- 你不一定会被accounting firm招走。--〉拿不到CA
- accounting firm得好坏会决定日后跳槽的起薪问题。进不到4大，可能日后不太好跳入高薪一阶
- 这一行压力还是很大的。要咬紧牙关挺至少8年才能出头。
基本上，如果不喜欢压力大的工作，还是不要考虑这个吧。
- 基本上在accounting firm里面做到manager,跳槽会跳到industry manager - controller 得职位。年薪至少8-9万。
- 如果做到senior manager，跳槽可跳到CEO, CFO到controller。年薪至少10万。
- 退一万步说，如果做到senior，跳槽可跳到account manager等职位，年薪差不多7万左右。
- auditing很锻炼人。是一段难得的经验。虽然苦点，但收获匪浅。
- 如果日后打算回国，年薪可以起价很高。如果日后打算深造，如在四大做过，比较好申请学校。
风险在于：
- 不过很多人不喜欢auditing, 你会痛苦的熬5年才会做到manager，再熬3年，做到senior manager.
- 你不一定会被accounting firm招走。--〉拿不到CA
- accounting firm得好坏会决定日后跳槽的起薪问题。进不到4大，可能日后不太好跳入高薪一阶
- 这一行压力还是很大的。要咬紧牙关挺至少8年才能出头。
基本上，如果不喜欢压力大的工作，还是不要考虑这个吧。
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let me post a more concrete link regarding jobs in accounting in government
Financial Management Community Development - Recruitment Information (FORD/IARD)
any question. feel free to post again.
Financial Management Community Development - Recruitment Information (FORD/IARD)
any question. feel free to post again.
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Pros and Cons of being an accountant
Pros:
- Accounting is easy...
- Once get the accounting designations, and if you have good communication and management skills, there is much room to go up the career ladder and enter the management...
- The more experience you get, the more valuable you are. The knowledget of accounting will not be out-of-date as quickly as computer, EE. So it is a good job for women, in my opinion.
- The pay for accountants is not bad at all. I know so many CAs who make around 80K to 100K a year. Even in the government, within the FI (Financial) group, after about 5 years working in this group, you should be able to make over 60K. A FI-level 02 makes around $55K to $72K, a FI-level 03 makes around $70K to $87K.
- There are many job openings now in accounting. The Federal Government is recruiting 140 FORD students this fall. The accounting firms are expanding... Though the start salary at Big 4 accounting firms in Ottawa is not high, about $38k to $40K for new graduates, after you get your CA, you can for sure get a much higher paid job, especially if you leave the accounting firms to join the industry.
Cons:
- Unfortunately if you can only stay as a bookkeeper or entry-level accountant, you may only be able to make around $25k to $35k for many years...
- Working at accounting firms is tough, especially for women, a lot of overtime, a lot of travel... If you already have kids or plan to have kids, maybe you do not want to go work at an accounting firm.
- You need to make sure that you can pass the exams for the accounting designations - but hey we Chinese are good at exams, right?
- Honestly, I doubt a first-generation immigrant can easily make it to the Manager or Senior Manager level at accounting firms, especially at Big 4 firms. There are a lot of politics going around in the office. But is it not the same situation for whatever job we choose? Even at IT, how many of new or old immigrants can make it to the management level?
- Language/Communication skills: accounting, especially senior level accountants/financial analysts/or accounting managers, need a lot of communication within the firm and with clients. Excellent communication skill is definitely a must.
Hope this is helpful!
Pros:
- Accounting is easy...
- Once get the accounting designations, and if you have good communication and management skills, there is much room to go up the career ladder and enter the management...
- The more experience you get, the more valuable you are. The knowledget of accounting will not be out-of-date as quickly as computer, EE. So it is a good job for women, in my opinion.
- The pay for accountants is not bad at all. I know so many CAs who make around 80K to 100K a year. Even in the government, within the FI (Financial) group, after about 5 years working in this group, you should be able to make over 60K. A FI-level 02 makes around $55K to $72K, a FI-level 03 makes around $70K to $87K.
- There are many job openings now in accounting. The Federal Government is recruiting 140 FORD students this fall. The accounting firms are expanding... Though the start salary at Big 4 accounting firms in Ottawa is not high, about $38k to $40K for new graduates, after you get your CA, you can for sure get a much higher paid job, especially if you leave the accounting firms to join the industry.
Cons:
- Unfortunately if you can only stay as a bookkeeper or entry-level accountant, you may only be able to make around $25k to $35k for many years...
- Working at accounting firms is tough, especially for women, a lot of overtime, a lot of travel... If you already have kids or plan to have kids, maybe you do not want to go work at an accounting firm.
- You need to make sure that you can pass the exams for the accounting designations - but hey we Chinese are good at exams, right?
- Honestly, I doubt a first-generation immigrant can easily make it to the Manager or Senior Manager level at accounting firms, especially at Big 4 firms. There are a lot of politics going around in the office. But is it not the same situation for whatever job we choose? Even at IT, how many of new or old immigrants can make it to the management level?
- Language/Communication skills: accounting, especially senior level accountants/financial analysts/or accounting managers, need a lot of communication within the firm and with clients. Excellent communication skill is definitely a must.
Hope this is helpful!
