大统华终于要在Ottawa开店了?!

If you think that Chinatown is not "又脏又乱", you should have your eyes checked. It is dirty, chaotic and the shops are all unhygienic. This so-called Chinatown is not really Chinese anyway: most of the shopkeepers and inhabitants are from Indochina.

Your bunch of so-called "Old Chinese" came to Canada to have the first world delivered to your doorstep when we worked hard in Asia to build our societies. Westerners give you respect because of our achievement, not because of you lots who came here to sit on the dole!

Tongjiya, you are right, I am so shameful being a Chinese, I'll go underground now.

It is new comers from Asia (I am sure it doesn't include those people from Indochina, right?) to build the respect? Wow, I am really ashamed. When we old goats came to Canada, there were not too many Chinese, so we got discriminated, spited on. We have to work three times as hard than the white folks to prove them wrong. Apparently that was all wrong because apparently we were sitting on a dole we didn't even notice, shame is on us

In fact, it is people like Tongjiya who brings in the rich money from their rich parents in Asia to make us respectable. They are also the ones that increased real estate values of Canadian houses. They knocked down old houses and build their gigantic houses because the old ones just isn't big enough for them.

Me and my children are forever grateful to you, really am.

By the way, Tongjiya, would you mind send me a picture of your house for me to admire? I have wasted all these years thinkng I was working hard so that I could do the Chinese proud. Sadly it turned out what we built was "又脏又乱", little did I know it is the rich Asian cousins that make us proud.
 
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41%的渥太华华人收入低于2万。

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对这个统计数字,我绝对怀疑它的准确性。理由是大家都想得到的。

另外,人口统计的数字,是不包括留学生的。
 
对这个统计数字,我绝对怀疑它的准确性。理由是大家都想得到的。

另外,人口统计的数字,是不包括留学生的。

我注意到一个细节,本地华人3万1回复中,2万多是单复,只有4千多是多复,不知道这个是否意味着很多人都是单身在这里,同样的情况也存在于黎巴嫩和南印度分组。一般来说,单身的购买能力要弱于家庭。但另一方面,如果大多数的单身把家属都接过来,再生一两个,总人口要多两三倍。
 
多谢CCC的辛苦工作!

从统计研究结果看,渥太华的华人购买力也不是太强。

41%的渥太华华人收入低于2万

渥太华华人的平均收入只有渥太华全体居民平均收入的77%。 比在渥太华的黎巴嫩和索马里难me

数据太不准了
 
None of the Chinese stores here could be classified as 超市, so it is a stretch.

I don't believe 大统华 is going to make it here in the long run, Ottawa just don't have enough Chinese to make a profit unless they also target other races. I have doubt on that regard too because other races just don't go into a store they perceive as Chinese's.

Take a look at the 大统华 Toronto stores there, you may see 5-10 non-Chinese at any single time.

Don't really agree. This is my 20th year in Ottawa, changes have been substantial, most of teh super martket now carries chinese goceries. They have even doing promotion during special chinese festivals. They all believe chinese market is important for them. Loblaws, Superstore, Lobe, Metro and even Costco!.
Besides, I have seen so many other races going to china town to buy chinese food as they enjoy cooking chinese.
Don't forget T&T will not just sell Chinese stuffs, they carry japanese and the local Canadian stuffs. Japenese food is very popular among chinese and canadians. Just look at the recent openings of the japanese restaurants (by chinese)....

T&T is a good size enterprise, for sure they have done they market survey which is hte reason why they have decided to have a store here.
 
I like how everything goes from discussion, to debate, then to personal bashing.
Makes my day every time I read it.
 
zipped just put in a good and valid argument, this is what it is supposed to be.

I have no problem having 大统华 open shop here. I shop there too when I am in Toronto. I especially like their price of the frozen durians. Their bakery is good, except the over packaging that increase their prices.

Before Costco is selling the moon cake ($10 for 4 double eggs), the best price you could find in China town is $15 for 4, so competition is good.

What I am having problem is people keep on saying the China town is filthy. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying it is the cleanest place on earth. To be honest, where do you find a China town in NA that is decent? Yes, there are, but not too many.

During the outbreak of the SARS in 2003, there was a woman (let's disregarding her race) called during a phone-in show in a radio station in Toronto. Here was what she said (not in exact words): "The Chinese are filthy and dirty, they live like pigs, now they are bringing these deadly decease to our country".

How angry are you getting from this remark? Now turn around and assume the guy who ran the pig farm in Mexico came to Ottawa and claim that the Ottawa China town is filthy, how would you feel? As I stated in my earlier post, if you feel that way, then go shopping in the stores that Zipped mentioned above.

It is bad that the non-Chinese are bashing us, it is worst when our own (who came from areas that maybe even dirtier than China town) to make the same comment.

Other comments like Tongjiya's, whose misguided arguments happened to insult millions of Chinese who came here before him, and the people from Indochina who own stores in Chinatown. My parent owned a grocery store (not in Canada) , and believe me, it is hard work, you got up at 5:30Am, work until it is 9:00Pm, trying to make a living for themselves and their family. My parent's store sent four of their 4 children (me included) to Canada to study. And we are all thankful for the good life we have now.

Now we are into another health crisis on the Swine Flu, and then what did we see?/

: 农业部:墨西哥猪流感疫情可能来自福建毫无根据_资讯_凤凰网.

How do you feel after reading this? Let's stick together!

This post will be my last one for this thread, but I will stick around in the others.
 
During the outbreak of the SARS in 2003, there was a woman (let's disregarding her race) called during a phone-in show in a radio station in Toronto. Here was what she said (not in exact words): "The Chinese are filthy and dirty, they live like pigs, now they are bringing these deadly decease to our country".



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很正常的反应, 如果你听说非洲某个国家爆发黑死病啥的, 你肯定也躲着黑鬼走。
 
很正常的反应, 如果你听说非洲某个国家爆发黑死病啥的, 你肯定也躲着黑鬼走。

正常的反应?

墨西哥州长妄言:“猪流感来自中国游客”

东方早报

  面对世人对猪流感“零点地带”的指责,墨西哥韦拉克鲁斯州州长贝尔川竟然谎称,猪流感病毒并非源自该州,而是从中国传来。

  东方早报报道,韦拉克鲁斯州州长办公室发布的消息称,猪流感起源于亚洲,并否认该州的养猪场是病毒源头。

  而事实上,韦拉克鲁斯州一个名为拉格洛里亚的小镇的一座大型养猪场被认为是此次猪流感的源头。

  墨西哥大使日前称,这次猪流感的起源并不是墨西哥,而是欧亚大陆。

  而韦拉克鲁斯州州长的表态似乎更有泼脏水的嫌疑。“源头是亚洲,是中国,由中国来的旅客把病毒带到北美,然后传到墨西哥,这跟拉格洛里亚的农业无关。”

  从去年12月到今年3月,小该镇拉格洛里亚共有500人患上呼吸道疾病,其中2起死亡案例据说是因为得了“肺炎”。
 
墨西哥韦拉克鲁斯州州长是个蠢货。中国来的病毒,怎么到现在中国也没有发现一例啊!

对了,这走题走得太离谱了吧?
 
Census Shows Growing Polarization of Income in Canada

May 16, 2003

Analysis of the Spring 2003 Census Release on Income in Canada

It shows The median income in Ottawa is $69,518 (higher than Toronto).
can't believe 41% Chinese in Ottawa earned less than 20k!
Ottawa-Hull
  • The median income in Ottawa Hull increased 2.1% between 1990 and 2000
  • The median income was $69,518 significantly higher than the Ontario provincial medium of $61,024 and the national medium of $55,016
  • The lowest 10% of families in Ottawa had an average income of $12,800 while the wealthiest 10% had an average income of $214,000 or one dollar for every $16.70 for the richest group
  • On average families in Ottawa Hull received $32,00 in government transfer payments in 2000 representing 3.9% of total family income in Ottawa Hull
Toronto
  • In Toronto, the lowest 10% had an average of $9,600 while those in the highest 10% had an average of $261,000. The average income of the top 10% was higher in Toronto than in any other city in the country
  • For every dollar of income of the 10% of Toronto families with the lowest incomes the 10% with the highest was $27.30
  • The median income of families in Toronto declined 4.2% between 1990 and 2000
  • In 2000 half of the families in Toronto had an income of $63 700 down from $66 520 in 1990, higher than the provincial and national average
 
我注意到一个细节,本地华人3万1回复中,2万多是单复,只有4千多是多复,不知道这个是否意味着很多人都是单身在这里,同样的情况也存在于黎巴嫩和南印度分组。一般来说,单身的购买能力要弱于家庭。但另一方面,如果大多数的单身把家属都接过来,再生一两个,总人口要多两三倍。

你将 "Single Response" 和 "Multiple Response" 理解成“单复(单身)”和“多复(??)”是不正确的。

根据统计局的解释:
Single Response: Occurs when a respondent provides one ethnic origin only。

Multiple Response: Occurs when a respondent provides two or more ethnic origins。

Total Responses: Are the sum of single and multiple responses, and indicate the number of persons who reported a
specified ethnic origin, either as their only origin or in addition to one or more other ethnic groups.

http://www.eco.gov.yk.ca/pdf/ethnic96.pdf
 
Census Shows Growing Polarization of Income in Canada

May 16, 2003

Analysis of the Spring 2003 Census Release on Income in Canada

It shows The median income in Ottawa is $69,518 (higher than Toronto).
can't believe 41% Chinese in Ottawa earned less than 20k!
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我仔细读了你给的连接中的文章,$69,518是家庭平均收入(The median famiy income ); 41% Chinese in Ottawa earned less than 20k 指的是个人收入。因此,二者并不矛盾。举个例子,一个中国人家庭有一对夫妻和两个孩子,丈夫在政府部门工作,年收入是$80k, 妻子没有工作,两个孩子还没到工作年龄与父母住一起,那么,这个家庭的收入是$80K(已经高于$69,518的平均数), 而这个家庭3个人(75%)中收入每个人(都为0)低于$20k.
 
大统华能来,真是太~~~好了! 我已经开始向身边的老外朋友们介绍了,他们也都很期待哦~~~口水流ing~~~

讨论渥太华中国人人均收入,恕我直言,没有冒犯任何一方的意思,我个人觉得没意义——就像我们必须去Chinatown买一些菜一样,不管收入多少,将来也得去大统华呀~

希望大统华能顺利开张,环境干干净净,把中国超市又脏又乱的形象剔出掉!

有一老外朋友,从多伦多来的,她在多伦多时就常去大统华,说那里的购物环境好,东西又新鲜~我说我从没去过,她就兴致勃勃地给我描述那边的大统华如何如何,听得我都很兴奋,盼着渥太华的大统华开张呢~
 
多谢CCC的辛苦工作!

从统计研究结果看,渥太华的华人购买力也不是太强。

41%的渥太华华人收入低于2万。

渥太华华人的平均收入只有渥太华全体居民平均收入的77%。 比在渥太华的黎巴嫩和索马里难民强不了多少。


http://www.spcottawa.on.ca/Document...mic_characteristics_VM.ppt#320,17,Significant Differences in Median Income

我仔细读了你给的连接中的文章,我的理解,$69,518是家庭平均收入(The median famiy income ); 41% Chinese in Ottawa earned less than 20k 指的是个人收入。因此,二者并不矛盾。举个例子,一个中国人家庭有一对夫妻和两个孩子,丈夫在政府部门工作,年收入是$80k, 妻子没有工作,两个孩子还没到工作年龄与父母住一起,那么,这个家庭的收入是$80K(已经高于$69,518的平均数), 而这个家庭3个人(75%)中收入低于$20k.

似乎这两组数字无法吻合。如果那两万是家庭人均收入的话,那么华人的收入可是不低了。
 
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