渥村的房价会跌多少?

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预测只是一种猜测,一种可能性趋势。
房价在短期(几个月到一年多的时间)内下降是肯定的了,但究竟会下降多少呢?
希望你能举出推测的前因后果。(遵守公共道德,不要乱扔“垃圾”。)

个人认为,20% -40% 之间, 也就是30%左右最有可能. 当然有很多条件和因素都会改变房价的走向.
1. Unemployment rate. A lot of people is talking about the government employment, but the affect of government is always very limited in a economic recession in the history. The "unemployment" wind will reach the capital region soon if the price of oil and metal kept as current low for another several months. The only hope for Canada is that the price of oil and metal will go back to high enough in 6 months, otherwise the unemployment rate will be 8% in Ottawa. There is no hope for US and most of Europeans countries so far.

2. Cost & supply. The price of a new house has increased from 200K to 400K in about 9 to 10 years. But the cost of building a house has not changed so much and the average house income has not increased a little. There must be an adjustment for the "over heat". I guess the price will go back to about 280k based on the price of Hull. The market of the crossing river is less "over heat" and more reasonable. The builders will continue to build new houses if the price makes sense because they can still make money(maybe still a lot) on it. So, we don't need worry about the supply.

3. Foreclosure. Some owner (none Chinese!) will enter into foreclosure if it they lost their jobs and they have bought very expensive house in the last two or three years. (more to be added). This activity will add a lot of used houses into the inventory and accelerate the price dropping.

4. Inflation. The mortgage rate is so low that nobody can imagine that it can reach 7%, 10%, 15% or more in a few years. Look back the history chat, the average is 7%. Also the inflation is inevitable almost based on the current circumstance and the historical analysis. Do you know what a 8% mortgage rate means? It is a double of 4% and the monthly payment will be increased dramatically.

5. The real Depression. All my assumption is based on that now we are entering into a depression and at the beginning of the depression. I hope my assumption is wrong, but more and more evidences are coming out.

Wait to see.


(打字太累,我的慢慢补充。)
 
Just my own 2 cents.

The federal will move about $30,000 employees to Kanata (rumor has it that DND will take over Nortel campus at Moodie) in a couple of years. 300 federal employees will be relocated to the old Mitel Building very soon. So I guess the house price at Kanata will drop by a small margin this year, maybe also next year, given the bad economic time. But in a couple of years, the price will bounce back.

I heard from some of my colleagues (they have lived in Ottawa for over 30 years) that in the 90's, the house price in Ottawa dropped by about 10%, but after the recession, when the economy recovered, the price jumped a lot, especially in some good areas.

If you are not selling or buying a house, then the price fluctuation means almost nothing to you except the impact on your property tax bill.

Whatever comes, take it easy......
 
那 3 万政府雇员是从外地迁来, 还是从渥太华市区搬过来 ?如果只是从渥太华市区搬至 Carling & Moodie,对 Kanata 地区居民的住房价格的影响,恐怕很有限吧 ?
 
That 30,000 employees will work/their offices will be in the Kanata area. It doesn't mean they will live in that area. Of the 30,000 employees, how many are from the Ottawa region?
 
Just my own 2 cents.

The federal will move about $30,000 employees to Kanata (rumor has it that DND will take over Nortel campus at Moodie) in a couple of years. 300 federal employees will be relocated to the old Mitel Building very soon. So I guess the house price at Kanata will drop by a small margin this year, maybe also next year, given the bad economic time. But in a couple of years, the price will bounce back.

I heard from some of my colleagues (they have lived in Ottawa for over 30 years) that in the 90's, the house price in Ottawa dropped by about 10%, but after the recession, when the economy recovered, the price jumped a lot, especially in some good areas.

If you are not selling or buying a house, then the price fluctuation means almost nothing to you except the impact on your property tax bill.

Whatever comes, take it easy......

几年前就说rcmp 要搬到barrhaven ,N年过去了,连个影都没有
 
Take over NORTEL campus? That is still far from happening.
 
That`s just what I heard. People have been saying that approximately $30K federal employees will move from downtown core to Kanata --- but I assume especially for young employees such as new graduates who will be working in Kanata, they will look to buy or rent in Kanata. At least this will be a positive impact to the housing market in Kanata.

But even if the house price drops, so what, life still goes on and this is nothing but a small episode in it.
 
total employees of federnal government including military is 115000 across the country base on the static canada data and NCR(National Capital Region) only covered 30% which means all the federnal department will move to Kanata? that is no true, by the way, I am federnal employee.

Here is the link:

Table 1.1 Number of employees, federal, provincial, territorial and local governments, Canada, 1991 to 2005

看帖不认真。

2005年federal已经30多万人了,这几年扩招这么狠,很可能翻番到60多万了。

有空再查查统计局的数字,现在渥太华地区federal雇员应该15,6万左右。
 
total employees of federnal government including military is 115000 across the country base on the static canada data and NCR(National Capital Region) only covered 30% which means all the federnal department will move to Kanata? that is no true, by the way, I am federnal employee.

Here is the link:

Table 1.1 Number of employees, federal, provincial, territorial and local governments, Canada, 1991 to 2005
错了。你给出的链接所给出的数据是平均每 1000 个居民中有多少个政府雇员。比如,表中所列的 2005 年全国联邦政府雇员为 11.5,意思是说平均每 1000 位居民中有 11.5 名是联邦政府雇员。如果那年全加拿大的人口为 3 千万,那么联邦政府雇员的人数应该是 11.5x3 = 34.5 万。

根据加拿大统计局给出的数据 (请看以下网页), 2005 年联邦政府在全加拿大的雇员总人数为 36.93 万,其中在首都地区的人数为 11.38 万。到 2006 年 9 月,联邦政府在全加拿大的雇员总人数为 37.77 万,其中在首都地区的人数为 11.78 万。

The Daily, Wednesday, November 29, 2006. Federal government employment in census metropolitan areas
Survey: Federal jobs continue to grow in capital region | Voluntary Gateway

有一种说法,认为平均每一个联邦政府的职位,大约需要 3 个额外的人员支持。这么说来,整个首都地区大约有 40 万人的工作与联邦政府的工作有关。如果这么多人工作稳定,旱涝保收,该地区的经济应该不至于有过大的衰落,倒并不在乎他们在本地区内搬过来搬过去的。即便因为目前大气候不好,一时有些放缓,恢复起来也应该不难。
 
total employees of federnal government including military is 115000 across the country 。。。。?

that is no true, by the way, I am federnal employee.

。。。

I knew that the number cited above used to be the total number of feds in the Ottawa-Gatineau region.

I am not a federal employee, by the way.:p
 
a typical bear trap.

cheap guys will pay a price.
 
预测只是一种猜测,一种可能性趋势。
房价在短期(几个月到一年多的时间)内下降是肯定的了,但究竟会下降多少呢?
希望你能举出推测的前因后果。(遵守公共道德,不要乱扔“垃圾”。)






(打字太累,我的慢慢补充。)

Ottawa housing prices off 2.9 per cent from year ago

I can see it will go down another 10% at the minimum in 12-18 months.

For people who bought an average single house last Feb with 0% down payment and have to sell now due to bad economic, there's a lot to lose.
 

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