昨晚教育局关于Gifted Program 的讨论会

你是想说家长除了要抓中学成绩,还要抓大学成绩?然后抓就业,婚姻?
正相反,我就是想说,家长不要管的太多。
中学绩好,不见的以后的成绩就好。反之,亦然。
 
正相反,我就是想说,家长不要管的太多。

中学绩好,不见的以后的成绩就好。反之,亦然。



也就是说什么事儿都没准儿(好的可以变不好,不好的可以变好),所以小孩儿随意了?或者“家长不要管的太多”,小孩儿自己管大部分?
 
孩子乐意上哪儿就上哪儿。家长管那么多干吗。
 
也就是说什么事儿都没准儿(好的可以变不好,不好的可以变好),所以小孩儿随意了?或者“家长不要管的太多”,小孩儿自己管大部分?
不可以吗?有些家长就是愿意把孩子从头管到脚,弄的孩子一点都不自立。但是家长自己没意识到。
你是指Gifted就是好,非gifted就不好了?我不那么认为。
还说一个。大学9月份开学,有个孩子不到感恩节就退学了。原因是从没离开过家,到大学不适应自己生活。
 
不可以吗?有些家长就是愿意把孩子从头管到脚,弄的孩子一点都不自立。但是家长自己没意识到。

你是指Gifted就是好,非gifted就不好了?我不那么认为。

还说一个。大学9月份开学,有个孩子不到感恩节就退学了。原因是从没离开过家,到大学不适应自己生活。



我也不认为Gifted就是好,非gifted就不好。
但我也不认为家长应该不管,不应该做决定。
让孩子高兴很容易。比如说男孩子,让他玩游戏他肯定很高兴。


我想说的是,家长和孩子的关系不是管与被管的关系。和孩子有关的决定应该让孩子参与;家长与孩子应该互相倾听。不能一名话“孩子乐意上哪儿就上哪儿。家长管那么多干吗”。不然的话,还要家长干什么?

至于Gifted的好坏,仁者见仁,智者见智。

但是我想问那些考过gifted的孩子的父母,你们真正花过时间和你们的孩子坐下来谈一些他们感兴趣、但课堂未必能找到答案的话题吗?你们发现没,沿着他们的兴趣,你们可以就一下话题不断的往深入谈?你们发现没也许你会觉得很吃力的去回答他们的问题?如果没有,我建议你们花几个小时的时间和他们聊一下。然后你再考虑上gifted有没有必要。

下面是从Ottawa School Board上搞来的,
The aim of the Gifted Program is to provide enrichment rather than acceleration. The program is designed to encourage the development of complex thinking and problem-solving skills using extension activities. As well the program encourages cooperative work; peer and self evaluation tasks are based on criteria determined by both teacher and students. The program allows children of similar abilities and interests to work together

所以gifted program目的很清楚,不是要教育出成绩好的,不是要把他们送到好大学,不是要把他们教育成乖孩子。是要provide enrichment。
 
很多吧。俺娃考过,不过一天也没有在program里。现在看来不后悔。当然了,俺永远无法知道娃如果上了gifted program会怎么样。





这里有没有中国的家长没有把自己Gifted的孩子送进Gifted Program的?今天我才知道我儿子的两个老师,他们都没有把自己Gifted的孩子送进Gifted Program,我有点惊讶。
 
娃的18岁生日到了,这些天心中颇多感慨。总结了一下对娃的教育心得:就简单的一句话:要从孩子一生下来,就把他/她当成一个人来对待,一个大写的
 
昨天晚上又去旁听了教育局有关Gifted Program 的讨论会,参加旁听的家长非常少(大概大家早都知道了结果?),不管如何,贴出来与大家分享,尤其是关心此事的Lisgar 的家长们。
基本决定已经形成:
A: Bell high school,Lisgar,Merivale High school 三个学校作为Gifted Program中心继续保留。Lisgar 继续Offer 英语Gifted 课程以及extend french;Bell 和Merivale 将Offer 英语和French Immersion的 gifted program。

想请教一下关于学校的事:如果学生家住Kanata, 小学时上EFI或者MFI,到高中再选择去上gifted program, 那么可以在Bell 和 Lisgar 中任选一个吗?
 
啊?:mad: 失望... 那可能就不去上了。不过还早着呢,以后再烦;)



多谢信息,给您加声望了!

传个谣...新政策后, 去Lisgar理论上还是有机会的,只是名额极少.
 
They actually live somewhat shorter lives

灌些水:

Ambition = success = happiness? Not quite.
March 7, 2012: 10:29 AM ET


Graduating from a top school and scaling the corporate heights won't necessarily lead to a long, happy life, says a new study.

By Anne Fisher, contributor

FORTUNE -- How do you define success?

That's the question at the core of an exhaustive research project by Timothy Judge, a professor of management at the University of Notre Dame's Mendoza College of Business. "Despite their many accomplishments, ambitious people are only slightly happier than their less-ambitious counterparts, and they actually live somewhat shorter lives," says Judge.

His study tracked 717 go-getters, born in the early years of the 20th century, and measured ambition, achievement, and various indicators of health and happiness at key points in the subjects' lives, from childhood into young adulthood and beyond.

Many in the group graduated from Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, and other prestigious schools, and then went on to demanding, high-status, highly paid careers. Yet, when compared with a control group of more laid-back peers -- folks with the personality profile psychologists sometimes label Type B -- the high-achieving group was not markedly happier. What's more, the slackers, on average, outlived the high-achievers.

"We discovered that ambition has, at most, only a very slight positive effect on life satisfaction, and actually a slightly negative impact on longevity," says Judge. "So, yes, ambitious people do achieve more successful careers, but that doesn't seem to translate into leading happier or healthier lives."

Although the study doesn't address the reasons for higher mortality rates among ambitious people, Judge speculates that "perhaps the investments they make in their careers come at the expense of the things we know affect longevity," such as "healthy behaviors, stable relationships, and deep social networks."

Note to parents: Pushing kids to aim for the stars, get into a prestigious school, and pursue a high-powered career may not do them any favors in the long run.

"If your biggest wish for your children is that they lead happy and healthy lives, you might not want to overemphasize the importance of professional success," says Judge. "There are limits to what our ambitions can bring us -- or our kids."

The study, "On the Value of Aiming High: The Causes and Consequences of Ambition," will appear in a forthcoming issue of the Journal of Applied Psychology.

http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2012/03/07/ambition-success-happiness-not-quite/
 
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