有做法律方面工作的人士吗？最近遇到了房屋纠纷，请指教！

[悠哉客]

很好理解，没有结果就是LZ在small claim court 输了他的case。

 

[timmy]

What was the result?

不会有结果的，楼主可能已经输了。
争得是旧房、管道、广告词，凭日常知识俺觉得楼主是无理取闹。

 

[uglyducking]

Small claim court may take some time ( I tried to search normally how long it would take small court claim getting a result but can't find any useful info), anyone here has the small court experience and how more details?
I had purchased a house, a month after closing, found flat roof over carport leaked badly. I called back the inspector, he said the leaking place was not observable and weather wasn't right at the time he did inspection(not raining, sorry) so he had no responsibility. I let my lawyer to send a letter to seller's lawyer, no response. It ended that I paid over 2k to get the roof fixed. Lost a chance to gain some experience to share Actually, for me it wasn't bother me too much and I just decided to wrap it up, flip the page over and life goes on. But if lz believes it's a big loss and worth the time and effort to go after the unethical house seller, he/she should go for it without hesitate.

 

[uglyducking]

Even lost the case, still gain some good experience, and get a peace in mind

 

[草根阶级]

There seems to be a busy duckling on CFC

 

[timmy]

Even lost the case, still gain some good experience, and get a peace in mind

如果是无理取闹, 那么这种经验不要也罢(至少不提倡, 和谐好些).
像你那样的验了房, 结果都没人理, 谁也没责任; 楼主的情况, 不知怎么就好意思提. 以俺的理解, 再多嘴几句:
首先, 那是旧房, 一般约定就是AS IS的, 检查验证责任全在楼主;
其次, 广告词是可以不准确的, 有错误一般是免责的, 不负法律责任的(俺见有标少价离谱的呢);
第三, 有没有预留水管, 楼主和看客搞N天都不敢肯定有没有, 卖家糊涂也合理的嘛;
第四, 房子才两年旧, 一定是按规范建的, 有没有怪谁去;
第五, 那个管对于房子来说是芝麻那么小, 不应该拿来说事.

 

[lovepig]

如果案子输了，那有多大的损失呢？如果对方请了律师的话，要赔付对方的律师费吗？

 

[uglyducking]

There seems to be a busy duckling on CFC

陪LD看无聊电视剧,闲来在网上聒噪几句,就扰了您的清梦,真过意不去啊.

 

[泰迪宝贝]

楼主消失了，从去年底卖洗衣机发帖后就消失了，也许穿上了新马甲，似乎是一事一帖哈。

感觉这个案子的结果可能是不合楼主的心意，

对吗，楼主？

 

[uglyducking]

如果是无理取闹, 那么这种经验不要也罢(至少不提倡, 和谐好些).
像你那样的验了房, 结果都没人理, 谁也没责任; 楼主的情况, 不知怎么就好意思提. 以俺的理解, 再多嘴几句:
首先, 那是旧房, 一般约定就是AS IS的, 检查验证责任全在楼主;
其次, 广告词是可以不准确的, 有错误一般是免责的, 不负法律责任的(俺见有标少价离谱的呢);
第三, 有没有预留水管, 楼主和看客搞N天都不敢肯定有没有, 卖家糊涂也合理的嘛;
第四, 房子才两年旧, 一定是按规范建的, 有没有怪谁去;
第五, 那个管对于房子来说是芝麻那么小, 不应该拿来说事.

for my case, the leaking was there for years for sure. it was the seller choose not to disclose it or get it repaired before put up on market and crossed his finger to hope buyer won't find it out before closing(it worked). the buyer has right to go after the seller for the damage.

resale house normally isn't AS IS unless you state it clearly in the purchase agreement. normally power of sale by bank will attach a very detail schedule-A along with standard OREA agreement (still, lots of sections will be crossed out from that standard agreement), to statethat the property is sold AS IS, anything wrong after closing, bank holds no responsibility. buyer be better do good dudiligence before remove all conditions.

 

[和风溪流]

"困扰我和我家人的生活" ... 至于么？

等事情过后，您再回来看看我的打扰、废话是否有什么用。

村长是不想再看到前面那个众所周知的购房事件重演

 

[和风溪流]

村长是不想再看到前面那个众所周知的购房事件重演

看贴不认真，还当是这两天的事呢。

 

[timmy]

...resale house normally isn't AS IS unless you state it clearly in the purchase agreement...

俺的表述可能不够严谨，应该只限于静态硬指标方面，比如材料、尺寸、布局、裂缝等。不适合于动态方面的，比如家用电器、空调暖炉，不说明就必须保证能工作的。

 

[uglyducking]

俺的表述可能不够严谨，应该只限于静态硬指标方面，比如材料、尺寸、布局、裂缝等。不适合于动态方面的，比如家用电器、空调暖炉，不说明就必须保证能工作的。

agree most of your listed items but there could be some argument over foundation 裂缝 if not disclosed might arise after close. i remember there's post regarding a fight between buyer/seller on foundation issue.

in the purchase agreement, you should have a clause, says, all included appliances/fixtures must be in working condition at closing time. if you have that statement and find out the furnace doesn't work first day after closing, for sure you should go after the seller for your own right

I guess it all depending on how the purchase agreement was written. if you don't have that specific items in the agreement, it will be very hard to argue with seller afterward.

just my 2 cents.

 

[timmy]

如果案子输了，那有多大的损失呢？如果对方请了律师的话，要赔付对方的律师费吗？

输了的损失上不封顶，具体看牵扯了多少人财物进去，以及惩罚性部分有多大。
正常情况，律师费最大头，最差的律师也是每小时$2-3百起，通个电话、查点资料、写个邮件等都算时间。一般也就两种情况可以请律师，要么很穷、要么很富。