给RIM支招之一：一机双系统

[qsblxwh]

还有一点，不欠债正好说明轮毂没有投资项目，做企业管理都知道，好的企业都是负债经营的，把资金用到最大化。轮毂在股票高位筹来的钱根本没投到新的项目中，现在资金短缺，更难上新项目了。负债的企业不一定死，没创新和危机感的企业肯定死。大家等着看吧，加拿大的企业都或多或少有同样的毛病，对市场和竞争不敏感，不象真正商人，而像官商，我做什么你就用什么，而且不能有怨言，喜欢垄断，一旦遭遇竞争，立刻完蛋。

 

[superlover]

如同一男2妻

1个风光男人从中年走向没落，为了挽救他的颓势，却还给他娶个正风情万般的 Android 女子做偏房，你觉得管用么》？

 

[eggplant]

BB最大的优势主要有三方面：Email、加密、和连接到企业网。
这三个优势，是任何其它智能手机都不具备的。只要RIM能够做到如我上文所说的，坚强和巩固自己的优势，弥补自己的劣势，它还是有很大生存空间的。与北电最大的不同，RIM没有很多的债务。

Help me out here.
Why so many people say these are BB advantages? Aren't they basic function of all smartphones?

 

[cxu123]

BB最大的优势主要有三方面: Email、加密、和连接到企业网。
这三个优势，是任何其它智能手机都不具备的。只要RIM能够做到如我上文所说的，坚强和巩固自己的优势，弥补自己的劣势，它还是有很大生存空间的。与北电最大的不同，RIM没有很多的债务。

这三点iPhone和Android做不到，但是微软都做得到。其实大部分企业都在用微软的Exchange邮件服务器，和用微软的软件组企业网。等诺基亚的Windows Phone 7手机出来，RIMM就差不多了。

 

[白米饭]

这三点iPhone和Android做不到，

谁说做不到的？证据呢？我在的这个小公司的企业网都可以接受 iPhone 和 Android 的连接，也可以用来连 exchange server。但是 it 部门要我们签一堆waiver，说是可以随时删我们手机上的关于公司东西。

 

[简单简单]

Help me out here.
Why so many people say these are BB advantages? Aren't they basic function of all smartphones?

RIM给企业用户都是配套BES服务器的
所谓的email，他们是push功能，不是所有smartphone都支持的

 

[cxu123]

RIM给企业用户都是配套BES服务器的
所谓的email，他们是push功能，不是所有smartphone都支持的

第二个支持Push的是微软的Active Sync技术，基本iPhone和Andriod都是从微软哪里拿到的授权。RIMM的BES服务器的功能，微软的最新版Exchange服务器也基本都提供了。微软的Windows Phone 7其实是RIMM最大的敌人

 

[eggplant]

RIM给企业用户都是配套BES服务器的
所谓的email，他们是push功能，不是所有smartphone都支持的

That's from technology point of view. But what difference they make on user experience? Client pay for user experience, not the technology!
The only difference I can think of between push email and push email is Push email can deliver instantly, but pull email will wait 2-3 minutes for sync period. However, if the email sender expecting immediate response, they most likely won't send email at all, they will make phone call instead
I believe that is the reason why RIM is dying: exaggerate they technology and ignore user experience. While Apple is at opposite, that's why they are successful.

 

[wiiwii]

However, if the email sender expecting immediate response, they most likely won't send email at all, they will make phone call instead
I believe that is the reason why RIM is dying: exaggerate they technology and ignore user experience. While Apple is at opposite, that's why they are successful.

you don't understand business at all, everybody need their a$$ covered.
phone call? how could you prove i said sth? record all phone calls?

 

[miaomiao2012]

先申请专利啊！

专利局你有股份啊?一大早让这个申请,让那个申请的

 

[eggplant]

you don't understand business at all, everybody need their a$$ covered.
phone call? how could you prove i said sth? record all phone calls?

If you just want to cover your axx, what difference between push and pull? you send email , and you really don't care if and when the recipient get it.
Can you give me a real business case that you have to use push?

 

[mybaby]

没有研究过BES，请高人点拨一下。以前的公司用Notes平台，很强大，也早就有了基于WEB的客户端。为什么不能在Android上搞个Notes的client端，上述的三点功能不是全部都有了吗？连ERP啥都有了。

这三点iPhone和Android做不到，但是微软都做得到。其实大部分企业都在用微软的Exchange邮件服务器，和用微软的软件组企业网。等诺基亚的Windows Phone 7手机出来，RIMM就差不多了。

 

[简单简单]

如果你有办法把所有系统完美的结合在一起的话，你其实可以考虑自己开个公司了，因为这就是个卖点。

 

[wiiwii]

If you just want to cover your axx, what difference between push and pull? you send email , and you really don't care if and when the recipient get it.
Can you give me a real business case that you have to use push?

who cares the push or pull?
the truth is the government and lots of big company in NA are using BB,they will keep using it.

 

[资深马甲]

who cares the push or pull?
the truth is the government and lots of big company in NA are using BB,they will keep using it.

离不开Push的过来Mark一下。