举手问问题:大功率抽油烟机的负压问题

那还跟着起啥哄,HRV的送气管道大概有10”,那气还不够您吸的?:D

要不upgrade到20”的管道?:D
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那还跟着起啥哄,HRV的送气管道大概有10”,那气还不够您吸的?:D

要不upgrade到20”的管道?:D

这回又该跟你抬杠了:p,没有十寸,大多是六寸,老式的HRV甚至有四寸的。

负压的事儿,没那么邪乎但也不是捕风捉影,这事儿细说起来就没完了。另外这类没谱的东西,对人的心理影响常常比生理影响还大。比如,你胆大不信邪,连SUV都敢开:D,可是胆小的人也有不少,还有人担心街上变压器的电磁场呢。

反正我是没买HRV也没加甚么mak-up air,但我常开门窗通风,冬天也开。
 
中文讲, 事不过三。 Had you given me three relaxes, I could have put my feet up. You certainly knew how high efficient furnace works ( the combustion air goes directly into the t furnace). I don't have fresh air intake near furnace and hot water tank any more. I bear in mind to keep opening the window when rang hood is on. Also I need to pay attention to any research refers to this issue. It will be grateful if you can give some solid evidence or tell me some HVAC codes in Ontario.

There are 3 CO detectors in my house. One in the basement did not go off when gas slowly leaked from hot water tank.




Relax, relax:).

In most of the houses there is a make-up air (combustion air supply)intake near furnace/hot water tank. Because the furnace/water heater is much closer to the make-up air than to the range, at the place of the combustion, the draft from the range hood is ignorable under most of the situations.

And fireplace. If you have a gas burning fireplace (most models less than 20 years old), its intake and exhaust are all ended at the exterior so, again, no worry. If you have a wood-burning fireplace, just don't use it when your hood fan is on.

CO detector is a life saving gadget. Houses built after 2003 should have a CO detector installed by builder. I've installed 2 CO detectors in my house, one in the second floor hall, the other in the basement.
 
中文讲, 事不过三。 Had you given me three relaxes, I could have put my feet up. You certainly knew how high efficient furnace works ( the combustion air goes directly into the t furnace). I don't have fresh air intake near furnace and hot water tank any more. I bear in mind to keep opening the window when rang hood is on. Also I need to pay attention to any research refers to this issue. It will be grateful if you can give some solid evidence or tell me some HVAC codes in Ontario.

There are 3 CO detectors in my house. One in the basement did not go off when gas slowly leaked from hot water tank.


Your CO detector did not warn you the GAS leak? I don't see any problem here.:blink:
 
这回又该跟你抬杠了:p,没有十寸,大多是六寸,老式的HRV甚至有四寸的。

负压的事儿,没那么邪乎但也不是捕风捉影,这事儿细说起来就没完了。另外这类没谱的东西,对人的心理影响常常比生理影响还大。比如,你胆大不信邪,连SUV都敢开:D,可是胆小的人也有不少,还有人担心街上变压器的电磁场呢。

反正我是没买HRV也没加甚么mak-up air,但我常开门窗通风,冬天也开。

您老看好了,我说的是“送气管”,不是指吸气口。:D 吸气口多大我没注意,我只看见室内的送气管还是很粗的,一个很粗的出气口分出四根6”管,所以我想那出口怎么也得10”。:D 出来的6”管有两根又各分出两根4”奔小卫生间,厨房和主卫是6”管直接上去了。我那小厨房还分去一个,嘿嘿。我要引一条给basement的卫生间,买的是4”管还得用大小头分支,所以还是研究了一下的。

负压,估计是单位惹的事儿。一说有1000帕的压差就觉得不得了,其实吹口气都比这压力大。:D 谁要是能用抽油烟机抽出高原反应来,那不是神了?:D:D:D
 
您老看好了,我说的是“送气管”,不是指吸气口。:D 吸气口多大我没注意,我只看见室内的送气管还是很粗的,一个很粗的出气口分出四根6”管,所以我想那出口怎么也得10”。:D 出来的6”管有两根又各分出两根4”奔小卫生间,厨房和主卫是6”管直接上去了。我那小厨房还分去一个,嘿嘿。我要引一条给basement的卫生间,买的是4”管还得用大小头分支,所以还是研究了一下的。

负压,估计是单位惹的事儿。一说有1000帕的压差就觉得不得了,其实吹口气都比这压力大。:D 谁要是能用抽油烟机抽出高原反应来,那不是神了?:D:D:D

您那十寸,别是周长吧:D。暂且信我一回如何?咱们通常见到的家用HRV,机器上的进、出口大都是六寸,偶尔能见到五寸的。老机器还有四寸的。

负压的事儿,该担心的不是高原反应:D,是空气的流向,特别是有害气体(比如氡气)的流向。老房子还好,新房子,四周太过严实。
 
中文讲, 事不过三。 Had you given me three relaxes, I could have put my feet up. You certainly knew how high efficient furnace works ( the combustion air goes directly into the t furnace). I don't have fresh air intake near furnace and hot water tank any more. I bear in mind to keep opening the window when rang hood is on. Also I need to pay attention to any research refers to this issue. It will be grateful if you can give some solid evidence or tell me some HVAC codes in Ontario.

There are 3 CO detectors in my house. One in the basement did not go off when gas slowly leaked from hot water tank.

If you have combustion air supply goes directly into the furnace (you have 3 PVC (or ABS) vent pipes run to the outside), you may not have make-up air in the mechanic room. I don't have gas code in my hand but that's the common practics in the area.
 
您那十寸,别是周长吧:D。暂且信我一回如何?咱们通常见到的家用HRV,机器上的进、出口大都是六寸,偶尔能见到五寸的。老机器还有四寸的。

负压的事儿,该担心的不是高原反应:D,是空气的流向,特别是有害气体(比如氡气)的流向。老房子还好,新房子,四周太过严实。

越说越玄乎,您那意思是说抽油烟机只抽出去“好”气,房子太严实,只能进来“坏”气。这好像比膜分离都厉害!:D
 
我家那个gas fire place直接有个管子连到外头去,没过furance.
 
依我看,负压问题最严重的后果在于可以引起太阳系毁灭!
众所周知,空气是含有水分的,绝对干燥的空气是不存在的。水的最主要成分就是氢和氧,特别是氢原子核基本上就是纯质子,负压会将室外空气压缩,压缩到一定程度,质子间就会结合发生核聚变(就是太阳上正在发生的那种类型),氢核聚变到一定程度就会引发更高阶的氦(空气中最多的惰性气体)聚变然后点燃碳、氧、氮热核聚变,一旦发生这个级别的聚变,空间将会扭曲,大量黑洞就会形成,瞬间吞噬地球以至于整个太阳系,据初步估计,大半个银河系都难以幸免!悲剧了!
因此:安装抽风机不安装空气补偿装置的住户应当立刻逮捕,以反人类罪起诉。
 
越说越玄乎,您那意思是说抽油烟机只抽出去“好”气,房子太严实,只能进来“坏”气。这好像比膜分离都厉害!:D

我说,咱别那么好坏分明行不?要是负压真的不是问题,make up air这事儿也不至于被写进building code不是?

我不是说了吗,空气流向。这毛病出在压差上。不好意思,我这儿没法画图也实在懒得敲那么多字。简单点,还是氡气的例子。氡气特别能钻,那儿压力低它就往那儿钻。通常的basement slab都是素混凝土,透气的,而房子的墙、顶棚都是密封的,要是屋子里面再稍稍有点负压,氡气含量一下就上去了。这可不是我编的,真有人测过。

还是那句话,这事儿没那么邪乎,但也不是捕风捉影。
 
我说,咱别那么好坏分明行不?要是负压真的不是问题,make up air这事儿也不至于被写进building code不是?

我不是说了吗,空气流向。这毛病出在压差上。不好意思,我这儿没法画图也实在懒得敲那么多字。简单点,还是氡气的例子。氡气特别能钻,那儿压力低它就往那儿钻。通常的basement slab都是素混凝土,透气的,而房子的墙、顶棚都是密封的,要是屋子里面再稍稍有点负压,氡气含量一下就上去了。这可不是我编的,真有人测过。

还是那句话,这事儿没那么邪乎,但也不是捕风捉影。

首先说basement地面比整个house外表面小的多,所以说氡气透的多说服不了人,再说了哪天大气压一低的话,漏的氡气比这差的多少哇?

有人测过也说明不了什么,想忽悠什么还不得有点科学根据?:D 给你讲个故事,说有人考虑问题是抽象思维,有人是逻辑思维。遇到个人手指头割个口子,抽象思维的人就说了,你这个口子不处理会死人的,你可能会把血流干了死了,可能感染病毒死了,可能得破伤风死了。可逻辑思维的人就会明白,又没割到动脉,血流一会就停了,有可能感染,也有可能得破伤风,但这么小的伤口概率很低,吃饭还噎死人呢?所以有人会马上跑到医院,又是打破伤风,又是抗生素。有人还不是该干嘛干嘛,吃嘛嘛香。:D:D:D 

行,就算咱俩是一拨的。不抬了:D
 
我还是觉得引发室内氡核裂变以及室外氢核聚变的威胁更大一些,都不是好玩儿的,两者一起来更可怕。
 
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