加拿大的種族歧視真厲害
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1. MacLeans doesn't represent Canada, it represents conservative Canada.
2. Asian Canadians are one of the best assimilated immigrant groups: pay taxes, low crime rate, hardworking, ther kids are getting good grades and excelling in schools, now it's suddenly "too Asian"? That is outrageous! It's fxcking racism in it's rotten core! That's why the article was removed.
3. CIC minister Jason Kenny just said this: Canadians have 2 options to continue the level of social security that they do today, either produce more babies or accept the current immigration level.
4. I have a mixed feeling re affirmative action: on/5 one hand I think Asian Americans are being victimized; on the other hand I can see where it's coming from, that certain groups of people haven't had equal opportunity just because they were born, by pure chance, into this particular ethnic group. Refer to Rawls veil of ignorance for further justification.
5. Ultimately though, everything comes down to money and power: no one dares to mention anything negative about the Jews, because that's where money and power is. I may be overly optimistic but I think Chinese are getting there too.
2. Asian Canadians are one of the best assimilated immigrant groups: pay taxes, low crime rate, hardworking, ther kids are getting good grades and excelling in schools, now it's suddenly "too Asian"? That is outrageous! It's fxcking racism in it's rotten core! That's why the article was removed.
3. CIC minister Jason Kenny just said this: Canadians have 2 options to continue the level of social security that they do today, either produce more babies or accept the current immigration level.
4. I have a mixed feeling re affirmative action: on/5 one hand I think Asian Americans are being victimized; on the other hand I can see where it's coming from, that certain groups of people haven't had equal opportunity just because they were born, by pure chance, into this particular ethnic group. Refer to Rawls veil of ignorance for further justification.
5. Ultimately though, everything comes down to money and power: no one dares to mention anything negative about the Jews, because that's where money and power is. I may be overly optimistic but I think Chinese are getting there too.
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这让我想起【红高粱】里巩利她爹说的话：
你以为当年我跟你娘弄你的时候容易吗？
The article has been reloaded back to the magazine's website. They are effectively declaring a war against the Asian communities in Canada. Like wiki said, they see Asians as an easy target, the "geeky Chinamen".
When I arrived in Canada from Hong Kong in 1990s, they bitched and complained about "yellow perils" in every single way possible, sometimes directly and most often obliquely just like what this article did. I remember that at that time the media complained endlessly about Chinese malls (claiming that someone "knew" some whites who "were told to leave because they did not speak Chinese"), monster houses, increased traffic, too much funds for ESL courses at school, immigrants asking city halls to take down Christmas decorations (turned out that they did due to complaints from some other religious groups). Of course, it is NEVER about racism! Yeah, right!
I remember I once went for a job interview in Vancouver in 1994, that white women interviewer asked me this question: "Why do you want to work for us? There are so many Chinese companies here."
I grew up in Hong Kong among the British. I also have many friends who grew up in Britain and are now living there. I can attest to you that racism against Chinese/East Asians is far worse in Canada and the US than Britain and anywhere in Europe, including the common bogeymen countries that North American likes to set up as racist monsters such as Germany, etc. No country in Europe, including Germany, has ever interned their own citizens or even foreign nationals of an enemy state due to race even during World War II. I personally know a number of Chinese nationals (citizens of the Republic of China, which was part of the Allies) who studied and practised medicine in Nazi Germany in 1930s and 1940s and were married to German citizens. Mind you, ethnic Chinese and Japanese were not allowed to study law or medicine or practise these professions in Canada and the US before 1950s, and they were forbidden to marry whites. Of course, Japanese Canadians and Americans were rounded up and sent to concentration camps during WWII. They were never subject to this treatment in Britain.
Racism against Asians are very deeply ingrained in this society, and it is part of their DNA. I was naive when I was young and came to this country, but I have learnt the truth over time, and now I regret my choice.
In Hong Kong, many people discriminated against the Mainland Chinese, the Filipinos, etc, and they still do. However, after living abroad for so many years, I come to realize that no matter where you are from, be it China, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, no matter what language you speak, as long as you look Asian, you are branded an outsider and inferior by the whites. I am very tired of this. I have made a terrible mistake for my life and now I have to suffer the consequences. This article has touched upon a sore wound in me, and I am very angry over this.
When I arrived in Canada from Hong Kong in 1990s, they bitched and complained about "yellow perils" in every single way possible, sometimes directly and most often obliquely just like what this article did. I remember that at that time the media complained endlessly about Chinese malls (claiming that someone "knew" some whites who "were told to leave because they did not speak Chinese"), monster houses, increased traffic, too much funds for ESL courses at school, immigrants asking city halls to take down Christmas decorations (turned out that they did due to complaints from some other religious groups). Of course, it is NEVER about racism! Yeah, right!
I remember I once went for a job interview in Vancouver in 1994, that white women interviewer asked me this question: "Why do you want to work for us? There are so many Chinese companies here."
I grew up in Hong Kong among the British. I also have many friends who grew up in Britain and are now living there. I can attest to you that racism against Chinese/East Asians is far worse in Canada and the US than Britain and anywhere in Europe, including the common bogeymen countries that North American likes to set up as racist monsters such as Germany, etc. No country in Europe, including Germany, has ever interned their own citizens or even foreign nationals of an enemy state due to race even during World War II. I personally know a number of Chinese nationals (citizens of the Republic of China, which was part of the Allies) who studied and practised medicine in Nazi Germany in 1930s and 1940s and were married to German citizens. Mind you, ethnic Chinese and Japanese were not allowed to study law or medicine or practise these professions in Canada and the US before 1950s, and they were forbidden to marry whites. Of course, Japanese Canadians and Americans were rounded up and sent to concentration camps during WWII. They were never subject to this treatment in Britain.
Racism against Asians are very deeply ingrained in this society, and it is part of their DNA. I was naive when I was young and came to this country, but I have learnt the truth over time, and now I regret my choice.
In Hong Kong, many people discriminated against the Mainland Chinese, the Filipinos, etc, and they still do. However, after living abroad for so many years, I come to realize that no matter where you are from, be it China, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, no matter what language you speak, as long as you look Asian, you are branded an outsider and inferior by the whites. I am very tired of this. I have made a terrible mistake for my life and now I have to suffer the consequences. This article has touched upon a sore wound in me, and I am very angry over this.
This is so not true. Basically white people are all the same in their blood.
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It is unfortunate that you feel that way. I feel exactly the opposite. I find Canada the most non-racist country in the western world. Articles such as those that appear in Maclean meant to stir up hatred towards Asians. They tend to mix half truths with outright lies. Yes Asians are dominating the academic achievement and that draws resentment from the other races. It should be expected. But as long as the competition is on equal footing and the media is focusing on a sensible explanation of why Asians do better in schools, only the ignorants should still feel resentful.
I count a lot of white Canadians as my good friends. They are all great.
Yes, over the years I have been on the receiving end of some racist remarks. They are far and few in between though.
I tend to side with Wiki. Her general assessment is pretty accurate.
On the other hand, I find Chinese have more racist attitude. Before you pooh-pooh it. Just consider this: what if white immigration starts to appear in China en mass? You think us, Chinese, would welcome them in open arms or would they decry their 'filthy' habits or complain about the loss of jobs? Think about that hard. Think about your own attitude towards racism before you call other people racists.
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Tongjiya: BTW I am from HK too and I am happy as a clam here.
I understand where you are coming from but unfortunately my view of Canada has been forever tainted by my experience in Vancouver in 1990s. That was the most harrowing experience I have ever had. I have good white friends here but they are all either francophones or people from Britain.
As for whether Chinese people are racist, I can only tell from my own experience. During the British administration in Hong Kong, I have to admit that we basically licked the boots of the British and anybody who was white. Chinese people in HK discriminated against everybody, including Mainland Chinese, but sucked up to the whites. The same happened in Singapore and Japan. There is a global racial hierarchy, in which whites are on top wherever they go. It is rather sad but true. The good thing is the situation has improved a lot in HK since the Chinese takeover in 1997. People told me that now it is the foreign-born Chinese who have chips on their shoulder, especially those "who speak English with an American accent", according to my friends in HK. I guess a large part of them is actually Canadian-born.
I envy my friends and relatives who have never left Hong Kong or went home just a brief stint abroad. They are not bitter and have a much more open-minded attitude towards the world and other cultures compared to me. They are very happily living in Hong Kong and embracing China as their new country without any problems. And me - I am bitter, wounded and psychologically imbalanced due to my years in Canada (yes, I admit it). Some days I just want to move back to Hong Kong, living in a small village house in the New Territories and never to speak English again.
As for whether Chinese people are racist, I can only tell from my own experience. During the British administration in Hong Kong, I have to admit that we basically licked the boots of the British and anybody who was white. Chinese people in HK discriminated against everybody, including Mainland Chinese, but sucked up to the whites. The same happened in Singapore and Japan. There is a global racial hierarchy, in which whites are on top wherever they go. It is rather sad but true. The good thing is the situation has improved a lot in HK since the Chinese takeover in 1997. People told me that now it is the foreign-born Chinese who have chips on their shoulder, especially those "who speak English with an American accent", according to my friends in HK. I guess a large part of them is actually Canadian-born.
I envy my friends and relatives who have never left Hong Kong or went home just a brief stint abroad. They are not bitter and have a much more open-minded attitude towards the world and other cultures compared to me. They are very happily living in Hong Kong and embracing China as their new country without any problems. And me - I am bitter, wounded and psychologically imbalanced due to my years in Canada (yes, I admit it). Some days I just want to move back to Hong Kong, living in a small village house in the New Territories and never to speak English again.
Good for you. I guess if you have come Ottawa directly, you will be fine. Ottawa, Montreal or anywhere to the east, to be frank, are the best places in Canada when it come to racism. Anywhere west of Toronto, including Toronto, is horrible.
Tongjiya: BTW I am from HK too and I am happy as a clam here.
