Petition: Minto must refund $66K to a single mother!请大家签名支持!

你这有点拔得太高了。

不管对错,华人就应该支持楼主?过两天,某白人也搞个运动,口号是“白人应团结”,你觉得怎么样?

本来就是个商业纠纷,碰巧一方是华人,您就搞个“华人应团结”,如果Minto搞一个“白人应团结”运动,你觉得怎么样?

幸好你不是犹太人,or Christians,否则看了这篇文章,还不立马就崩溃了:D。犹太人虽少,强敌又多,仍能立足以色列,并不是偶然的。中国人多却一盘散沙,也不是么有原因的:blink::blink::blink:

http://samsonblinded.org/blog/jewish-charity-is-only-for-jews.htm


Jewish charity is only for Jews

Jewish aid to non-Jewish causes bothers me. Look at the Israeli government, which “economically develops” Palestinian areas while lacking adequate funding to fortify Sderot schools.

The issue of government funding is never clear cut. Is it moral to pay for infrastructural projects while the same money can directly save lives if invested in healthcare? At least, such questions pit Jewish life versus the quality of Jewish life. Often enough, it is Jewish life versus the quality of the others’ lives.

The Torah law is straightforward: we only aid fellow Jews and proselytes (gerim, which is often mistranslated as strangers). The legist does not indulge in political correctness. We don’t need his omniscience to understand that any money devoted to foreign causes is money taken from Jewish ones. In effect, aiding foreigners means robbing Jews.

This logic is particularly relevant to Jewish charity organizations, whose donors count on their money being spent for Jewish causes. Robbery or breach of trust, you choose. The charities often misrepresent that their large, politically motivated donors are content with aiding foreigners. In truth, the large donors are really small. For many years the Bronfmans posed as the financial pillar of the World Jewish Congress, which allowed the alcohol manufacturers great financial clout. Not long ago, internal strife in the WJC brought out the ugly fact that Bronfman donations accounted for only a small percentage of the budget, with most of the money coming from the very small donations of hard-working Jews. Had they wished to support foreign causes, they had plenty of appropriate charities to give to. The fact that they gave money to Jewish charities confirms beyond doubt their intention to subsidize Jewish causes only.

The rabbis expanded the law a bit. First they allowed foreign visitors to Jewish towns to benefit from local charity—but only after Jewish needs were satisfied. Perhaps that was their tongue-in-cheek way of saying, “never.”

The Exile necessitated further expansion: Jewish charity funds were made available for gentile neighbors. Permission for this was nominal at best: in their closed communities, Jews rarely interacted with gentiles on social matters. More important is the rabbinical reasoning behind the permission: we only give money to gentile paupers lest they harm us. The harm might stem from the paupers themselves or from their communities.

The criterion for aiding the foreign poor is this: they will harm us unless we aid them. Thus, we don’t give money to nations at war with us (like Indonesian tsunami aid), neutral nations (like Brazil), those unable to realize their hostility (like Poland), or nations where we don’t fear violence even if we refuse donations to local gentile causes (like the United States). Certainly we should not donate to Israeli Arabs. If there is the slightest reason for Jews to fear them, the commandment tells us to expel them.

Charity to hostile gentiles is appeasement at best, extortion at worst. The rabbinical view on extortion is clear: we don’t ransom Jewish hostages because that endangers other Jews. Channeling Jewish charity funds to Israeli Arabs increases their demands and induces them to stay in Israel, endangering many Jews. A strong Jewish state has no reason to submit to extortionists.

Jewish charity to others is immoral, as it leaves needy Jews without aid. Hundreds of Jewish organizations aid thousands of irrelevant causes while many American Jewish families cannot afford to send their children to Jewish schools. To me—indeed, to any normal Jew—a Jewish child’s education is more important than any number of people left homeless by the tsunami in Muslim Indonesia. Consider the impropriety of taking money from the United States government and pro-Israeli Christian organizations while spending Jewish money on Muslims and pagans.

If that sounds rude, think of the good Christians who bequest their money to specifically Christian causes, from churches to orphanages. The exclusion is offensive; inclusion is not. It would be offensive, though not necessarily wrong, for a Christian to be willing to help any group except Jews, or for a Jewish charity to aid anyone but Poles. It is normal to benefit one’s own: Christians help Christians, and Jews help Jews.

Aiding one’s own is charity’s raison d’etre: we help those who are statistically likely to help us.
 
刚才看了一下 已经255个签名 虽然不足够。。。。。。。。

但是,我们华人还不是彻底的一盘散沙。 CFC还是给了我们一个积聚力量的平台。

坚持支持楼主!
 
~~~。中国人多却一盘散沙,也不是么有原因的:blink::blink::blink:

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你这样说,我想汶川地震救援的时候,你没看电视吧,那段时间,我天天看~~

有不明真相的,你说怎样让人家支持~~:confused::blowzy::rolleyes:
 
你说的我能理解!
你希望明白了你再签字,这是当然。
其实这是个简单的商业纠纷,大家也都知道。 你想,她一个人而且是个女性站在街头抗议;写出经过;出视频等,她已经--晒出自己!!!若再有“真相”两个字那样的潜藏的隐瞒、欺骗观众实在没有必要,也不明智。 换了你,你会吗?

要了解更多,其实这也是一种真切的帮助,你可以QQH给她;E给;见见她等多种途径
我选择后者,所以,我支持她。
 
说得句句在理
你说的我能理解!
你希望明白了你再签字,这是当然。
其实这是个简单的商业纠纷,大家也都知道。 你想,她一个人而且是个女性站在街头抗议;写出经过;出视频等,她已经--晒出自己!!!若再有“真相”两个字那样的潜藏的隐瞒、欺骗观众实在没有必要,也不明智。 换了你,你会吗?

要了解更多,其实这也是一种真切的帮助,你可以QQH给她;E给;见见她等多种途径
我选择后者,所以,我支持她。
 
你说的我能理解!
你希望明白了你再签字,这是当然。
其实这是个简单的商业纠纷,大家也都知道。 你想,她一个人而且是个女性站在街头抗议;写出经过;出视频等,她已经--晒出自己!!!若再有“真相”两个字那样的潜藏的隐瞒、欺骗观众实在没有必要,也不明智。 换了你,你会吗?

要了解更多,其实这也是一种真切的帮助,你可以QQH给她;E给;见见她等多种途径
我选择后者,所以,我支持她。
我有三个原因没有支持,可我不会反对你的支持~~

也请,支持者,冷静一点,不要动不动给没有支持的扣帽子~~(没有说你)

理解万岁!!!

肯定一下说,你对楼主的判断千真万确是对的~~

可你的判断思维,有待提高~~
因为我是一位女性,因为我有文字,因为我晒了我自己,所以我不会隐藏,所以我不会欺骗吗?

:confused::blowzy::(:rolleyes:
 
你这有点拔得太高了。

不管对错,华人就应该支持楼主?过两天,某白人也搞个运动,口号是“白人应团结”,你觉得怎么样?

本来就是个商业纠纷,碰巧一方是华人,您就搞个“华人应团结”,如果Minto搞一个“白人应团结”运动,你觉得怎么样?

支持"华人应团结"。

如果BDW是其他族裔,虽然认为MINTO欺客,我不会去签。
如果BDW是其他族裔,小C和一些人还会如次跟贴吗?难道是你们担心签的人掉井里?
 
支持"华人应团结"。

如果BDW是其他族裔,虽然认为MINTO欺客,我不会去签。
如果BDW是其他族裔,小C和一些人还会如次跟贴吗?难道是你们担心签的人掉井里?

其他族裔会上CFC?说话前,先用用脑子。
 
说句和楼主案例无关的话,
难道华人抢了银行你也要去支持?
难道其他族的人被华人无辜打了,你也不分青红皂白去补上俩拳?

去看看当年的陈旺的案,有没有其他族支持,有没有外族律师自愿帮忙~~不少加拿大各个省份的华人都伸手援助了~~

都快2012了,地球上还这样的人,思维这么白!让人@#$%^&*(*()_:rolleyes::blowzy::(
 
你这样说,我想汶川地震救援的时候,你没看电视吧,那段时间,我天天看~~

有不明真相的,你说怎样让人家支持~~:confused::blowzy::rolleyes:

您的意思是当年您天天看电视,就象现在天天上网看BDW事件进展一样?:confused: :blink:当年您不了解大地震到底是天灾还是人祸(有一说大地震是由于三峡大坝储水压力过高造成的,DG又犯一祸国殃民的大错)所以你不能支持大家同情地震受害者?:confused::rolleyes:
 
您的意思是当年您天天看电视,就象现在天天上网看BDW事件进展一样?:confused: :blink:当年您不了解大地震到底是天灾还是人祸(有一说大地震是由于三峡大坝储水压力过高造成的,DG又犯一祸国殃民的大错)所以你不能支持大家同情地震受害者?:confused::rolleyes:
:confused::rolleyes::(:p:D

您说的好复杂,好复杂啊~~

您先沉住气沉住气,看清我引的您的那一句话才说的那句话~~~~

如果还不明白,我再给您解释~~








一听您说话,就知道您当年没看电视,光粘CFC了吧~~:blowzy::p:D那么多百姓们手牵手救人的感人场景,您都没看到,难怪您就凭BDW的事得出"中国人多却一盘散沙,也不是么有原因的"的结论~~:blowzy::p:D
 
复杂吗?一点也不复杂。;)
您可以断章取义,我也可以歪曲理解。:D 我说过从BDW的事儿看出了中国人一盘散沙啦么?中国人一盘散沙论或多个中国人虫论以前提的人还少么?您怎么就看出来我是从BDW的事儿才悟出的这个道理呢?:confused:
现在理解您了,当年您是被感动了,忘记追寻事件真相了。BTW,除了天天看电视,可否采取点儿任何实际行动?:blink::rolleyes::p

:confused::rolleyes::(:p:D

您说的好复杂,好复杂啊~~

您先沉住气沉住气,看清我引的您的那一句话才说的那句话~~~~

如果还不明白,我再给您解释~~








一听您说话,就知道您当年没看电视,那么多百姓们手牵手救人的感人场景,您都没看到,难怪您就凭BDW的事得出"中国人多却一盘散沙,也不是么有原因的"的结论~~:blowzy::p:D
 
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