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[ForwardRetreat]

讨论问题，请就事论事不要跑题好不好？

can't you understand by now, my old pal. I don't "discuss "with anyone who doesn't follow the rule of logic. religionists fall into this category. Besides debating here through a thread doesn't do anything other than gaining some personal satisfaction and that's not what I want. What I want to do is to present a different view and let other see and they use their own mind to make a judgement as to believe or not to.

 

[飞来客]

飞老，红教那人就在渥太华。 我有次在Rideau center 看见过他

你是有福之人！

 

[raid]

灌水有时候也能起这样的效果；但是一个灌不好，也会血压上升、怒发冲冠

呵呵，cfc 看来有必要成立灌水教，，，谁当教主？

 

[Mikejia]

呵呵，cfc 看来有必要成立灌水教，，，谁当教主？

这个有ccc在，不敢班门弄斧

 

[focus on today]

I have read the bible numerous times when I was "young and stupid". the distorted " interpretations" of the church is a normal practice. you turning a blind eye on the dark side of it doesn't mean they are not there and nobody is going to point it out.

As an atheist, you can call me anything as you are the "chosen one" and I am already "condemned" to "burn in hell for eternity".

I trust you have read bible numerous times and what you see in church or in the society is largely different from what is said in Bible. I agree with you on your observation but not on your reasoning.

However, no one has the right to condemn you to"burn in hell for eternity", no one, except yourself. When you are still alive, God is giving you time to change your mind - not to condemn yourself born for hell. You are not. Open your mind, you are just one of sinners like all other people. Almighty God has the power to let you live on the earth also has the power to save your soul.

 

[Mikejia]

您好！我的比喻确实不恰当~~ 请相信我的本意不是那样的。
对于基督徒来说，耶稣基督的福音，比世上的一切珍宝都可贵。我是想把这个珍宝介绍给别人！^-^

"天国又好像买卖人寻找好珠子，遇见一颗重价的珠子，就去变卖他一切所有的，买了这颗珠子。”（太13：45）

我真心希望大家都去了解一下，不要因为对耶稣、对基督教的误解，或者因为别人的言行，而阻挡了去寻找真理的路。

我真心觉得耶稣和基督不是上帝。是另外一个存在导致了宇宙的存在，而宇宙的存在导致了生命的存在。跟这个叫耶稣的一点关系没有。耶稣是个人，但不是那个存在。因为这个存在依然存在，整个宇宙就存在这个存在之中。因为他/她/它存在，所以宇宙存在，所以人存在。

当这个存在依然存在的时候，让大家去膜拜、认识一个已经不存在的人，这是多么讽刺的事情。

 

[ForwardRetreat]

您好！我的比喻确实不恰当~~ 请相信我的本意不是那样的。
对于基督徒来说，耶稣基督的福音，比世上的一切珍宝都可贵。我是想把这个珍宝介绍给别人！^-^

"天国又好像买卖人寻找好珠子，遇见一颗重价的珠子，就去变卖他一切所有的，买了这颗珠子。”（太13：45）

我真心希望大家都去了解一下，不要因为对耶稣、对基督教的误解，或者因为别人的言行，而阻挡了去寻找真理的路。

if you happen to be a falungong follower or a mulsim, you could well replace christianity with zhuanfalung or koran. well, it is not your fault, you are a victim of a fraud.

 

[ForwardRetreat]

如何抢仇敌的靓女做老婆申命记

21:10你出去与仇敌争战的时候、耶和华你的神、将他们交在你手中、你就掳了他们去。
21:11若在被掳的人中见有美貌的女子、恋慕他要娶他为妻．
21:12就可以领他到你家里去、他便要剃头发、修指甲、21:13脱去被掳时所穿的衣服、住在你家里哀哭父母一个整月、然后可以与他同房．你作他的丈夫、他作你的妻子

 

[Mikejia]

讨论多了， 有时候觉得都心急。平和的心境慢慢不在，真的替你们盲目信教而着急。

俗话说 一叶障目不见泰山，思维和言行真的被局限在了你信的理论里了。

要发散性思维，逆向推理，不能说神说什么就是对的。这个世界上都没有绝对的对和错。

 

[CHRIS88]

无神论的悲哀 (Atheism of sorrow)

 

[ForwardRetreat]

I trust you have read bible numerous times and what you see in church or in the society is largely different from what is said in Bible. I agree with you on your observation but not on your reasoning.

However, no one has the right to condemn you to"burn in hell for eternity", no one, except yourself. When you are still alive, God is giving you time to change your mind - not to condemn yourself born for hell. You are not. Open your mind, you are just one of sinners like all other people. Almighty God has the power to let you live on the earth also has the power to save your soul.

of course, no one can condemn me to burn in hell. because Hell doesn't exist, God or gods don't exist. Your bible has numerous spots that condemn the nonbelievers to hell. sure you can turn your blind eye on it and choose the one that you see. That does matter to an atheist like me. God does not exist, nor does Hell.

 

[Kay007]

你未必了解我的意思：1，《四书五经》说明了中国古代有敬天敬神传统。 2，《道德经》和《圣经》的比较，可以看出道教的“道”和基督信仰道成肉身的“道”有相似处，当然还不能说完全相同，其实，有些基督徒如远志明等，都有这样的看法。

1. 我同意。2. 我不同意。远志明说古人在探索宇宙时的思索。道教的“道”和基督信仰道成肉身的“道”有相似处，那是在牵强附会。

 

[Mikejia]

呵呵，谢谢你！ ^-^

也谢谢你，每次你的回帖就很让人平和。

 

[urus]

您好！我的比喻确实不恰当~~ 请相信我的本意不是那样的。
对于基督徒来说，耶稣基督的福音，比世上的一切珍宝都可贵。我是想把这个珍宝介绍给别人！^-^

"天国又好像买卖人寻找好珠子，遇见一颗重价的珠子，就去变卖他一切所有的，买了这颗珠子。”（太13：45）

我真心希望大家都去了解一下，不要因为对耶稣、对基督教的误解，或者因为别人的言行，而阻挡了去寻找真理的路。

我相信你的本意是好的， 也相信你的实际行动阻碍了别人寻求真理的路。
你们老这么主动出击干啥？ 一个信仰系统应该是自我完善但被动（passive）的一个系统。说的不好听一点，应该等着别人来自投罗网。 你这么一搞， 就跟那些在高速路收费站发放楼盘广告的人没区别了。

听我一句劝， 只要回去做好功课， 打开大门等着， 无论谁来，都是诚心相待，虚心请教， 一来二去，自然会增加信徒。 万万不可操之过急，急吼吼的拉郎配。

要亲切自然， 但一定不能不矜持。

 

[ForwardRetreat]

您好！看得出您对圣经很了解！也谢谢您贴的那些经文！^-^

那些内容，也正说明，圣经是一本真实的书。它毫无保留的、忠实地记录了神的创造、人的罪恶，和耶稣基督的救赎；完全没有粉饰太平。

若是为了吸引人，只留下动听的言语，那你现在就看不到你贴的那些内容了。

至于为什么旧约时代那么多杀戮，那不是一两句能说明白的。若你真地想知道，可以跟牧师请教，甚至我也可以给你短信，如果不介意的话。

typical theist ideology. if someone asks a priest about if bible is believable, it beats the purpose. you wouldn't ask a liar if he is lying to you, would you?