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7 Ways to Discipline Your Wife
OCTOBER 3, 2015/BIBLICALGENDERROLES

Biblically speaking all those who are under various authorities can and should be disciplined by those authorities. The husband wife relationship is no exception to this rule. So how should a Christian husband go about his duty of disciplining his wife whom God has placed under his authority? This is a question that we will seek to answer here.
When we hear the word discipline in the context of wives this can be a scary term for many. It invokes images of husbands beating their wives and knocking them around or locking them in closets. It might invoke images of husbands standing over their wives yelling and screaming at them and using all kinds of obscenities. This is not the type of discipline that we are talking about in a Biblical context. Men who behave in such ways will answer to God for this abusive treatment of their wives.
Arguments against the discipline of wives by their husbands
Before we can get into how to discipline your wife as a Christian husband we need to address the arguments against any form of discipline by husbands toward their wives.
Argument #1A Partner cannot discipline their other partner
The first and most common argument against Christian husband’s disciplining their wives is the belief that a husband and wife are equal partners in marriage. The Bible does not show marriage as a partnership, but rather a Patriarchy (male lead hierarchy). See my post “Is Marriage a Partnership or a Patriarchy?” for all the Scriptures that present marriage as a Patriarchy and not a partnership.
Argument #2Discipline infantilizes a wife
Some would argue that if a man disciplines his wife in any way that this is treating her (an adult) as a child. This could not be further from the truth. The discipline of a wife is certainly different than that of a child and we will discuss that later in this post.
But discipline is something that applies to adults as well as children. Governments have the power to discipline their adult citizens, military commanders have the ability to discipline adults under their command, Churches have the power to discipline their adult members, and employers have the right to discipline their adult employees. Discipline applies to all of us as adults – both men and women.
No one would argue against discipline in these other spheres of authority or say that it infantilizes these adults. Certainly there is also the potential to abuse one’s authority and discipline in wrong ways, but the exercise of discipline itself is not wrong, only the abuse of it is.
Argument #3A wife’s submission to her husband is voluntary, therefore he cannot discipline her
Even some Christian complementarians and others who believe in male headship in marriage reject the husband’s right and responsibility to discipline his wife. They do so based on their belief that while a wife is commanded by God to submit to her husband, this is a voluntary submission on her part and cannot be compelled from her husband.
So in their reasoning if a husband cannot compel his wife’s submission, he cannot discipline her for failure to submit to his leadership. I have shown how the Scriptures refute the idea that a wife’s submission is voluntary but rather they show that her submission is mandatory and synonymous with obedience. See my previous post “Should a Christian husband make his wife submit?” for more on this subject.
Argument #4Christ does not discipline his bride
Some Christians, both complementarians and egalitarians, have attempted to argue that since we have no examples of Christ disciplining his bride (which is the Church) that husbands ought not to discipline their wives. This is actually not true.
Throughout the Scriptures God pictures his relationship with his people in two primary ways. The Bible pictures our relationship with God as individuals as that of a Father and his children. The Bible pictures God’s relationship with his people as a group as that of a husband and a wife with God being the husband and the people of God being his wife.
In the Old Testament God made a covenant with and married Israel as a nation (Ezekiel 16:1-14). Later he shows he had to divorce Israel because she failed to repent of her wicked ways and return to him (Jeremiah 3:8) despite the discipline that he had brought on Israel.
In the New Testament God has a new bride which is foretold in the Old Testament prophecies. But the Church (which a new body compromised of the remnant of Israel and Gentile believers) is pictured as bride that is betrothed to her husband which is Jesus Christ (II Corinthians 11:2). The marriage and consummation of the Church with Christ is seen in the marriage supper of the lamb in Revelation 19:9.
Even as a betrothed bride, Christ disciplined his Church through his Apostles who acted as the protector and guides of his bride.
“I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him.” – II Corinthians 11:2 (NIV)
“What do you prefer? Shall I come to you with a rod of discipline, or shall I come in love and with a gentle spirit?” – I Corinthians 4:21 (NIV)
When speaking the 7 churches in Revelation (chapters 2 & 3) Christ rebukes and disciplines all but one because of their failings and Christ says this to his churches:
“Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent.” – Revelation 3:19 (NIV)
So my point in all this is – Those who say God does not discipline his bride are ignoring passages of Scripture that show both in his previous marriage to Israel as well as his current betrothal to the Church that he in fact does discipline his bride.
I do not endorse Christian Domestic Discipline (CCD)
While I believe that a husband has the power and responsibility to discipline his wife that does not mean I think that discipline looks the same as with his children. I do not ascribe to or support the Christian Domestic Discipline (CCD) movement or their methods. I do NOT advocate for or teach that men ought to physically discipline their wives.
Different Types of Discipline for Different Spheres of Authority
The discipline from each authority that God has established looks very different. The types of discipline that a government can bring on its citizens looks very different than the discipline that church authorities can bring on their members. The discipline of an employer toward his employees looks very different than the discipline of parents toward their children. In the same way a husband’s discipline toward his wife will look different that the discipline used in these other spheres of authority.
But what all these spheres of authority have in common is – in every sphere of authority God has established that authority has not only the right, but the duty to discipline those under their authority.
Discipline makes us a better person
The Bible has a lot to say about discipline. These are just a few of those passages.
“Whoever heeds discipline shows the way to life, but whoever ignores correction leads others astray.” – Proverbs 10:17 (NIV)
“Whoever disregards discipline comes to poverty and shame, but whoever heeds correction is honored.” – Proverbs 13:18 (NIV)
“Those who disregard discipline despise themselves, but the one who heeds correction gains understanding.” – Proverbs 15:32 (NIV)
Discipline should be measured
“I am with you and will save you,’ declares the Lord. ‘Though I completely destroy all the nations among which I scatter you, I will not completely destroy you.I will discipline you but only in due measure; I will not let you go entirely unpunished.’” – Jeremiah 30:11 (NIV)
As husbands our discipline should always start off gently and then move toward harder forms of discipline. So for instance, if your wife rarely speaks in a disrespectful or demeaning tone to you then if she slips up gently let her know that her tone was demeaning or disrespectful. If she apologizes then no further action is needed.
But what if your wife is acting defiant or publically speaks disrespectfully toward you as her husband? In this case a Christian husband may be compelled to use harder forms of discipline.
Discipline is about holiness
Christ did not sacrifice himself for his bride (the Church) in order for her to follow her own selfish ways, but rather he sacrificed himself to make her holy.
“Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish,but holyand blameless.” – Ephesians 5:25-27(NIV)
As we previously mentioned God says this to his churches in Revelation:
“Those whom I love Irebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent.” Revelation 3:19 (NIV)
No man who truly loves his wife takes pleasure in disciplining her. We as Christian’s husbands naturally want to see our wives happy we don’t want to rock the boat needlessly. This is why discipline on the part of a husband toward his wife if he is truly acting in love is a sacrifice on his part. It saddens him to have to take these measures with his wife whom he loves.
Discipline is about maintaining Order
I think the comparison of the family structure to military ranks is both Biblical as hupotasso (the Biblical term for submission in marriage) is a military term and it helps us to understand the discipline in the home as well.
God is like our General (4 star). In the home the husband would be like a Lieutenant General (3 star), and the wife would be like a Major General (2 star). The children would be the enlisted men. Imagine that a 4 star General came along and saw a 2 star General publically degrading her 3 star General in front of other officers or the enlisted men. What do you think the response would be from that 4 star General?
That 4 star General would first scold the 2 star General for her disrespect and then he would probably scold the 3 star General for allowing the disrespect to go on. It is the same with God as he looks at the relationships of husbands and wives.
He has given us different positions and we are to exercise and play out those parts he has given us. As a Christian husband you cannot allow your wife’s demeaning or disrespectful behavior to go unchecked because it is an affront to God’s established order. You are responsible for teaching both your wife and your children the ways of God. You are equally responsible for disciplining your wife and children when they rebel against God’s ways.
So now that we have addressed the arguments against a Christian husband disciplining his wife as well as the intended purpose of a husband disciplining his wife we can now look at practical examples of how a Christian husband can discipline his wife.
7 Ways to Discipline Your Wife
Discipline toward your wife should always start with the gentlest approach first and only move toward harder forms of discipline if the gentle approach does not yield results.Warnings should always be given before harder types of discipline are implemented. You should always pray and seek the Lord’s guidance before bringing these types of discipline on his wife.
Here are 7 ways you can discipline your wife if a gentle rebuke does not work:
#1 For Disrespect
If your wife is speaking in disrespectful and demeaning ways in public in front of others (whether this is toward you or others) this might require a public rebuke of her tone and actions.
#2 For Overspending
If your wife is spending money against your wishes – this may require confiscation of her credit cards and ATM cards. Of course this can be done in measured amounts. Perhaps you might just take away one or two cards that she has abused and if her spending continues to get out of control you would move toward removing the ATM card as well. This does not necessarily mean she would have no money, but you could give her a cash allowance each week.
#3 For failing to care for your children or contradicting your authority with your children
If your wife is failing to do her duties as a mother toward your children or she is continuing to contradict your authority with the children then perhaps you might put off buying that new car for her and have her continue driving her older car for a while as long as it is safe for her to drive. If you have to purchase another car – you could downgrade the type of car she will be able to get or buy her a used one instead. Maybe you put off the purchase of that new dishwasher she has been wanting.
#4 For too much TV watching
If your wife is watching too much TV you could cancel the cable or satellite TV and just have antenna service.
#5 For too much online time
If your wife is spending too much time online (like Facebook or other social outlets or online shopping) then if she does not respond to your warnings about this you could change your internet code on your router so that her devices will not have access to the internet.
#6 For neglect of the home
Maybe your wife is not watching too much TV or spending too much time online but she is still neglectful toward her duties in your home. If your wife is being neglectful of her duties to care for your home then you might put off that new living room furniture set you have been talking about or those new window dressings she has been wanting.
#7 For sexual denial
If your wife is un-submissive in the sexual arena and chronically denies your sexual advances (without legitimate medical or psychological reasons for doing so) then perhaps that upcoming trip you were going to take her on gets canceled. Maybe that wardrobe upgrade your wife was looking forward to gets downsized or canceled. The Bible says a man has to supply his wife with clothing, but it does not say it has to be the expensive clothing she wants!
Some of these disciplinary procedures may affect the family as a whole, but sometimes it is necessary to do this in an attempt to bring your wife to repentance.
These are just some examples of non-abusive ways that a Christian husband can discipline his wife in a way that honors God and his design for the home.
Conclusion
God not only give husbands the power to discipline their wives, but he also gives them to the duty to do this. Men should not discipline their wives out some sort of power trip or prideful arrogance. Instead men should discipline their wives from a place of love in order to bring about holiness and order in their homes. Even if a wife rejects her husband’s discipline as Israel did God as her husband – he should still discipline her and pray that God will bring his wife to repentance.
 
有什麽不对吗?我看了一下,虽然他举的那些具体例子即所谓的七种方式不一定可以全盘照搬,但总的原则挺好的。

男女平等不是男女相同。男女角色不同,男人是妻子的头,妻子应该顺服丈夫,这是天经地义的。在女权主义误导之下妻子对丈夫权威的挑战正是现代家庭矛盾冲突甚至破裂的一个主要原因。

男人要象个男人,承担起丈夫和父亲的责任,家才有可能被撑起来成为一个安全、温馨、稳定的家。
 
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有什麽不对吗?我看了一下,虽然他举的那些具体例子几所谓的七种方式不一定可以全盘照搬,但总的原则挺好的。

男女平等不是男女相同。男女角色不同,。妻子对丈夫权威的挑战正是现代家庭矛盾冲突甚至破裂的一个主要原因。

男人要象个男人,承担起丈夫和父亲的责任,家才有可能被撑起来成为一个安全、温馨、稳定的家。
男人是妻子的头,妻子应该顺服丈夫,这是天经地义的“ 哈哈 这个很好, 完全像个信上帝阿拉的人, 与回教并驾齐驱。 继续努力。我回头喝点小酒装个胆子给老婆说说女人服从男人是天经地意。good luck to me, haha.
 
男人是妻子的头,妻子应该顺服丈夫,这是天经地义的“ 哈哈 这个很好, 完全像个信上帝阿拉的人, 与回教并驾齐驱。 继续努力。我回头喝点小酒装个胆子给老婆说说女人服从男人是天经地意。good luck to me, haha.

如果真的这样,你应该要检查一下自己在婚姻中的定位了。

这麽说吧,如果你太太当初不恋慕你到愿意顺服你的地步,她是不会自愿嫁给你的。即使现在,她的许多争吵与不顺服,所表达的意思也并不是要和你争夺权威,而很可能是在你身上看不到她希望看到的权威的一种反应。

现代领导学中有一句话说“领导就是服务”。这句话是从圣经中来的。而这句话也适合丈夫与妻子间的领导与被领导的关系。
 
马可福音 第十章

35 这时候,西庇太的儿子雅各和约翰来到耶稣面前,说:“老师,如果我们向你求什么,希望你为我们成全。” 36 耶稣问他们:“要我为你们做什么呢?” 37 他们说:“请准许我们在你的荣耀里,一个坐在你的右边,一个坐在你的 m左边。”

38 耶稣就说:“你们不知道自己在求什么。我所喝的杯,你们能喝吗?我所受的洗礼,你们能受吗?” 39 他们回答说:“我们能。”

耶稣就说:“我所喝的杯你们将要喝,我所受的洗礼你们将要受。 40 但是坐在我的右边或左边,不是我所赐的,而是已经预备给谁,就赐给谁。” 41 其他十个使徒听了,就开始对雅各和约翰很不满。

42 于是耶稣把他们召来,对他们说:“你们知道,外邦人有所谓为首的压制他们,也有为大的管辖他们。 43 但你们当中却不是这样;相反,无论谁想在你们当中为大,谁就该做你们的仆人; 44 无论谁想在你们当中为首,谁就该做大家的奴仆。 45 要知道,就是人子来,也不是为了受人的服事,而是为了服事人,并且献上自己的生命,替许多人做救赎的代价。”
 
三纲五常?

三纲五常封建荒谬、压制妇女。应该唾弃。

权威与权威的使用是个大问题。不过圣经中有完美的答案。
 
服从权柄和执行自己的权柄都非常重要,搞错了,容易乱套。每个人都有需要服从的权柄,也都有一些权柄是你要做的,不能依靠他人。
 
如果真的这样,你应该要检查一下自己在婚姻中的定位了。

这麽说吧,如果你太太当初不恋慕你到愿意顺服你的地步,她是不会自愿嫁给你的。即使现在,她的许多争吵与不顺服,所表达的意思也并不是要和你争夺权威,而很可能是在你身上看不到她希望看到的权威的一种反应。

现代领导学中有一句话说“领导就是服务”。这句话是从圣经中来的。而这句话也适合丈夫与妻子间的领导与被领导的关系。
你是在给我说吗? 哈哈,我们家都是平起平坐, 力所能及。 不存在谁不服谁,不存在谁是权威。大家相安无事,合家欢乐。 倒是你的说法好像是一个曾被家暴的女人,听说过 Stockholm syndrome 吗?骨骼骨骼一下吧。哈哈。
 
男人是妻子的头,妻子应该顺服丈夫,这是天经地义的“ 哈哈 这个很好, 完全像个信上帝阿拉的人, 与回教并驾齐驱。 继续努力。我回头喝点小酒装个胆子给老婆说说女人服从男人是天经地意。good luck to me, haha.
这可不是你自己说的?

和太太说个话,就算是她不愿意听的,你犯得着战战兢兢要喝酒壮胆?这也是平起平坐?:) 当然啦,你说的其实也是现代家庭的常态。

我想说的是,婚姻可以更甜蜜 - 如果双方能意识到并尊重对方的需要的话。妻子最大的需要是丈夫无条件的爱(即使她有时候可能很不可爱)。丈夫最大的需要是妻子无条件的尊重(即使他有时候可能很不值得尊重)。
 
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有二个人或者更多的地方就有组织,有组织就得有次序,次序是靠权威维系的。所以问题不是要不要权威而是怎样产生权威和维系权威。

婚姻是人世间最紧密的组织了,因为夫妻二人要合为一体。这样的紧密的结合中没有次序是会乱套的。
 
这可不是你自己说的?

和太太说个话,就算是她不愿意听的,你犯的着战战兢兢要喝酒壮胆?这也是平起平坐?:)
哈哈,这个你也当真了? 你的培养一下你的幽默感啊。 不过, 我老婆和我倒是平起平坐,决不会有谁应该服从谁或谁是谁的权威的概念, 感觉很好啊。基督教,回教, 孔教等教导的男尊女卑,男人地位高一等和人类历史发展趋势背道而驰哦。还是那句话,不知你是男人还是女人, 如果是男人,我鄙视你,如果是女人,我真认为你是受过家庭不辛,为了给你丈夫, 也许是为了孩子,更为了你自己开脱这种男女不平等的现状,找基督教做个安慰。 这也是基督教乘人之危的一贯作风。
 
哈哈,这个你也当真了? 你的培养一下你的幽默感啊。 不过, 我老婆和我倒是平起平坐,决不会有谁应该服从谁或谁是谁的权威的概念, 感觉很好啊。基督教,回教, 孔教等教导的男尊女卑,男人地位高一等和人类历史发展趋势背道而驰哦。还是那句话,不知你是男人还是女人, 如果是男人,我鄙视你,如果是女人,我真认为你是受过家庭不辛,为了给你丈夫, 也许是为了孩子,更为了你自己开脱这种男女不平等的现状,找基督教做个安慰。 这也是基督教乘人之危的一贯作风。

这个我真不指望说服你。但你可以试一试在家里按圣经的教导做一个敢于负责、拥有权威、愿意服侍、充满爱心的大丈夫。看看婚姻家庭是否更甜蜜。

把discipline翻译成“教训”在这里不合适。改成“规范”更接近原意些。
 
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这个我真不指望说服你。但你可以试一试在家里按圣经的教导做一个敢于负责、拥有权威、愿意服侍、充满爱心的大丈夫。看看婚姻家庭是否更甜蜜。
你应该试试丢掉那本充满暴力黄色荒诞不经的圣经, 用自己的心去爱你的家庭而不是为了上帝去爱, 不是为了要上天堂去爱,看看能不能走出 Stockholm syndrom的阴影。
 
基督教男人有福了,男人要求性关系,妻子不能拒绝,拒绝时罪啊。靠,不难想象回教徒把女人当工具的原因。

Married Sexinthe Bible... "The husband must fulfill his (sexual) duty to hiswife, and likewise also thewife... If your husband wantssex, it is a sin to refuse him.
 
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