美国总统选举: 几个州重新点票

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Wisconsin prepares for vote recount
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Donald Trump has not commented publicly on the recounts issue
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Officials in Wisconsin are preparing to conduct a full recount of the votes from the US election in the state, which was narrowly won by Donald Trump.

A formal request for the recount was filed by the Green Party's Jill Stein.

Dr Stein, the Green Party's candidate, has also pledged to file for recounts in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Lawyers for Hillary Clinton's campaign say they will participate in the Wisconsin recount, though it is thought highly unlikely the result will change.

The result would need to be overturned in all three states to change the outcome of the election.

The Clinton campaign's general counsel, Marc Elias, said there was no evidence to conclude the election was sabotaged, but "we have an obligation to the more than 64 million Americans who cast ballots for Hillary Clinton to participate in ongoing proceedings to ensure that an accurate vote count will be reported".

Dr Stein reportedly wants to make sure computer hackers did not skew the poll in favour of Mr Trump.

$7m fundraising target
In statement, the Wisconsin Elections Commission said it had received two recount petitions from the Jill Stein campaign and from Rocky Roque De La Fuente, a businessman who ran unsuccessfully to be the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee.

"The Commission is preparing to move forward with a statewide recount of votes for President of the United States, as requested by these candidates," said Wisconsin election commission administrator Michael Haas.

He said the recount would begin in the week after Dr Stein's campaign has paid the fee, which the commission was still calculating.

Dr Stein's campaign needs to raise millions of dollars to cover the fees for the vote recount in all three states.

Dr Stein's website says nearly $5.3m (£4.2m) has already been raised toward a $7m target. It says this is enough to fund the recounts in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
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The Green Party's Jill Stein is leading the campaign for recounts

Concerns over possible Russian interference had been expressed in the run-up to the vote.

Voting rights lawyers who urged candidates to request recounts, John Bonifaz and J Alex Halderman, have said the results need to be closely analysed.

However, the fact that the results in the three states were different from what polls predicted was "probably not" down to hacking, Mr Halderman said.

"The only way to know whether a cyber-attack changed the result is to closely examine the available physical evidence ," he wrote.

The deadline for the petition for the recount in Wisconsin was Friday, while Pennsylvania's deadline is Monday, and Michigan's is Wednesday.

Wisconsin provides only 10 votes in the crucial electoral college that gave Mr Trump victory in the 8 November election.

Wins there for Mrs Clinton, as well as in Michigan (16 electoral votes) and Pennsylvania (20 electoral votes), would have clinched the presidency for the Democrat.
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Hillary Clinton has conceded defeat in the presidential elections

US officials have said there was no evidence of election tampering in the three states where Republican candidate Donald Trump had razor-thin victories over his Democratic rival.

Mr Trump's camp has made no public comments on the recounts issue.

Mr Trump won 290 electoral votes in the November election, while Mrs Clinton had 232 votes.

Michigan is yet to declare final results.
 
Ballot rules, hacking theories and recounts — why the U.S. election drags on
Answers to frequently asked questions about the election that won't end
By Mark Gollom, CBC News Posted: Nov 26, 2016 5:00 AM ET Last Updated: Nov 26, 2016 5:00 AM ET

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Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein wants a recount in three battleground states. (D. Ross Cameron/Associated Press)

More than 2½ weeks after the U.S. election, aspects of the vote are still dragging on. As votes continue to be counted, there have been accusations of possible vote hacking in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And now, a candidate for the presidency is petitioning for a recount in those states. Here's why the 2016 election results continue to make headlines.

Why are they still counting votes?
Every day seems to elicit another headline that Hillary Clinton's lead in the popular vote continues to grow. And that's because votes continue to be tabulated as each state has its own deadline for certifying the ballots.

"Since the 2000 election of Bush versus Gore ironically enough, some of the reforms, and well-intentioned and positive reforms, have had an unfortunate byproduct of delaying the counts," said Edward Foley, director of election law at Ohio State University.

Provisional ballots are the biggest factor in this. A person casts a provisional ballot if there's any question about his or her eligibility as a voter — if, for example, the voter hadn't registered or was trying to vote at the wrong polling place.

In 2002, Congress passed the Help America Vote Act, which required all states to have this provisional ballot process. So if a poll worker doesn't see the voter's name on the list of eligible voters, the worker still has to give the voter a provisional ballot, which then gets evaluated after the election to determine whether it should be counted. In a state like California, there's a large number of provisional ballots relative to population size, and those take time to evaluate.

Many states, for the sake of voter convenience, give people the option of sending an absentee ballot by mail. Voters used to need a compelling reason to vote this way, such as a disability or having to travel on business. But some states, like California, now have no excuse absentee voting, meaning any eligible voter can do it.

And states can set the deadline for when those ballots are received. California has said as long as those ballots are postmarked by election day, they can arrive days later.

But all the votes in all the states will have to be certified before Dec. 19, when the electoral college meets and casts its votes for the next president.

What's all this talk about hacked results?
A New York magazine article has created a lot of buzz, particularly among Clinton supporters, after reporting that "a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers" wants Clinton to call for a recount in three swing states — Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

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A group of election lawyers and data experts has asked Clinton's campaign to call for a recount of the vote totals in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. (Matt Rourke/ Associated Press)

According to the report, the group believes it found "persuasive evidence" that the results in those three states were manipulated or hacked. The article points to Wisconsin, for example, where Clinton received seven per cent fewer votes in counties that used electronic voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots.

"Based on this statistical analysis, Clinton may have been denied as many as 30,000 votes; she lost Wisconsin by 27,000," according to the story.

And, the theory goes, if Clinton really won Wisconsin, then maybe she also won Michigan and Pennsylvania. With those three states added to her tally of electoral college votes, she would be the next president.

What are the odds the results were hacked?
"Zero or close to zero," said election law expert Edward Foley. "Do I think there was a problem with the count? No, I don't see any reason to think that."

Many other experts have also dismissed the claims.

Foley said the nature of the results were consistent across all the states and he questioned why hackers would only target those three states and not larger ones like Florida and North Carolina.

Michael Cornfield, an associate professor at George Washington University's Graduate School of Political Management and Research, agreed. Citing the Wisconsin example, Cornfield said the hacking theorists are cherry-picking and over-interpreting coincidence or correlation without causation.

"There's no anomaly here. And that's what you look for when you suspect tampering.

So then why all this talk about recounts?
With high-profile hacks during the election campaign, and now the buzz over these three states, Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein has launched a fundraising campaign for recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Stein said she wants to investigate the "unexpected results of the election and reported anomalies."

"These concerns need to be investigated before the 2016 presidential election is certified. We deserve elections we can trust," she said in a statement.

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Electronic voting machines have become popular in many U.S. states. (Rick Wilking/Reuters)

Meanwhile, officials from the Clinton campaign have given no indication they plan to contest the results.

How likely is Stein to get recounts?
Well, it looks promising in at least two states.

On Friday, Stein's campaign organization filed a petition with the Wisconsin Elections Commission, which later said it was "preparing to move forward with a statewide recount of votes for president of the United States."

Under Wisconsin law, the petitioner for a recount must have been a candidate, must state a reason for a recount and must raise enough money to cover the filing fees if they didn't reach a certain percentage of the vote. Stein's campaign has estimated a Wisconsin recount will cost $1.1 million US, which the team says it has raised.

The problem could be the time constraints. There were about three million votes cast, and the Stein campaign wants the recount done by hand. The last recount in the state, in 2011, took more than a month to complete, meaning this recount could pass the Dec. 19 deadline for electoral college votes.

Stein's campaign said it has also raised enough money for a recount of the 4.8 million ballots in Michigan — a cost of $125 per precinct for the 6,300 precincts in the state, according to the Detroit Free Press. (Stein can't request a recount in Michigan until the vote is certified, which is expected on Monday.)

Pennsylvania might be a bit trickier. The state allows individual voters to petition for a recount, but the deadline was last Sunday. A candidate can also contest an election in court, and the deadline for that is Monday.

Will a recount change anything?
Very doubtful, most experts say. Recounts often increase the vote tallies of both candidates. Trump beat Clinton in Pennsylvania by 70,000 votes, in Michigan by 10,000 votes and in Wisconsin by 27,000 votes.

Even Stein herself said they don't have any "smoking gun" evidence of voter fraud, and that she's not trying to overthrow Donald Trump and doubts that will be the outcome.

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Most experts say there's little chance recounts would overturn Donald Trump's victory. (Mike Segar/Reuters)

With files from Reuters
 
希拉里想翻盘是不可能的了。
另外重要的是,TRUMP已经不再追究希拉里了,所以,就算她权力欲再盛,也不可能再出来的了。
 
希拉里想翻盘是不可能的了。
另外重要的是,TRUMP已经不再追究希拉里了,所以,就算她权力欲再盛,也不可能再出来的了。

希拉里团队支持重新点票 川普嗤之以鼻(图)
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  特朗普(专题)对重新点票呼声嗤之以鼻,称那是绿党的计谋。

  希拉里·克林顿的竞选团队周六(11月26日)宣布将加入推动若干关键州重新统计总统选举投票的行动。

  威斯康星州正在为选票全部重算作准备。大选中特朗普在这个州以微弱优势险胜克林顿。

  绿党候选人吉尔?斯泰因(Jill Stein)周五提出重新点票申请,该州选举机构已经批准。

  当选总统特朗普称这是绿党的“诡计”,并提醒大家,连克林顿都表示应该接受选举结果。

  他发表声明说,选举结果应该得到尊重而不是挑战和侵犯;后者就是斯泰因在做的事。

  他还声称重新计票只是斯泰因为自己“敛财”的一种方式,大部分筹到的资金根本不会用于重新点票。

  “确保公平”

  
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  克林顿竞选团队律师称没有发现选举系统遭黑客入侵的证据,参与推动重新点票是为了确保对全体选民都“公平”。

  克林顿竞选团队律师马克?艾里亚斯(Marc Elias)在媒介(Medium)网站透露了这个消息。他在声明中也表示,克林顿团队自己的调查没有发现投票系统被黑客侵入的证据。

  他的声明是目前克林顿阵营关于重新点票问题发表的最具体的评论。

  他写道,克林顿团队不准备对投票结果本身提出质疑,但还是决定参加重新点票,因为要对6400多万把选票投给克林顿的美国选民负责,有义务参与正在进行的程序,确保“对各方都公平”。

  只有10张选举人票的威斯康星州还不足以让民主党参选人希拉里重新赢得大选。但如果加上16票的密歇根州以及20票的宾夕法尼亚州,希拉里就能从特朗普手中赢回总统宝座。

  斯泰因还要求密歇根和宾夕法尼亚两州重新计票。

  威斯康星州竞选委员会在社交媒体推特上称,涉及近300张选票人工重新计票将于下周早些时候开始。

  关键州

  斯泰因的竞选团队将为此支付费用。

  斯泰因的网站称已经募集了530万美元用于重新计票,目标募集700万美元。

  网站称这笔钱已足以支付威斯康星和宾夕法尼亚两州的计票费用。

  威斯康星州申请重新计票的时限是周五,宾夕法尼亚和密歇根的最后时限分别是下周一和周三。

  特朗普和希拉里在大选中分别赢得290张和232张选举人票。

  密歇根还未宣布最终的投票结果。
 
Ballot rules, hacking theories and recounts — why the U.S. election drags on
Answers to frequently asked questions about the election that won't end
By Mark Gollom, CBC News Posted: Nov 26, 2016 5:00 AM ET Last Updated: Nov 26, 2016 5:00 AM ET

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Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein wants a recount in three battleground states. (D. Ross Cameron/Associated Press)

More than 2½ weeks after the U.S. election, aspects of the vote are still dragging on. As votes continue to be counted, there have been accusations of possible vote hacking in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And now, a candidate for the presidency is petitioning for a recount in those states. Here's why the 2016 election results continue to make headlines.

Why are they still counting votes?
Every day seems to elicit another headline that Hillary Clinton's lead in the popular vote continues to grow. And that's because votes continue to be tabulated as each state has its own deadline for certifying the ballots.

"Since the 2000 election of Bush versus Gore ironically enough, some of the reforms, and well-intentioned and positive reforms, have had an unfortunate byproduct of delaying the counts," said Edward Foley, director of election law at Ohio State University.

Provisional ballots are the biggest factor in this. A person casts a provisional ballot if there's any question about his or her eligibility as a voter — if, for example, the voter hadn't registered or was trying to vote at the wrong polling place.

In 2002, Congress passed the Help America Vote Act, which required all states to have this provisional ballot process. So if a poll worker doesn't see the voter's name on the list of eligible voters, the worker still has to give the voter a provisional ballot, which then gets evaluated after the election to determine whether it should be counted. In a state like California, there's a large number of provisional ballots relative to population size, and those take time to evaluate.

Many states, for the sake of voter convenience, give people the option of sending an absentee ballot by mail. Voters used to need a compelling reason to vote this way, such as a disability or having to travel on business. But some states, like California, now have no excuse absentee voting, meaning any eligible voter can do it.

And states can set the deadline for when those ballots are received. California has said as long as those ballots are postmarked by election day, they can arrive days later.

But all the votes in all the states will have to be certified before Dec. 19, when the electoral college meets and casts its votes for the next president.

What's all this talk about hacked results?
A New York magazine article has created a lot of buzz, particularly among Clinton supporters, after reporting that "a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers" wants Clinton to call for a recount in three swing states — Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

election-recount-push.jpg

A group of election lawyers and data experts has asked Clinton's campaign to call for a recount of the vote totals in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. (Matt Rourke/ Associated Press)

According to the report, the group believes it found "persuasive evidence" that the results in those three states were manipulated or hacked. The article points to Wisconsin, for example, where Clinton received seven per cent fewer votes in counties that used electronic voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots.

"Based on this statistical analysis, Clinton may have been denied as many as 30,000 votes; she lost Wisconsin by 27,000," according to the story.

And, the theory goes, if Clinton really won Wisconsin, then maybe she also won Michigan and Pennsylvania. With those three states added to her tally of electoral college votes, she would be the next president.

What are the odds the results were hacked?
"Zero or close to zero," said election law expert Edward Foley. "Do I think there was a problem with the count? No, I don't see any reason to think that."

Many other experts have also dismissed the claims.

Foley said the nature of the results were consistent across all the states and he questioned why hackers would only target those three states and not larger ones like Florida and North Carolina.

Michael Cornfield, an associate professor at George Washington University's Graduate School of Political Management and Research, agreed. Citing the Wisconsin example, Cornfield said the hacking theorists are cherry-picking and over-interpreting coincidence or correlation without causation.

"There's no anomaly here. And that's what you look for when you suspect tampering.

So then why all this talk about recounts?
With high-profile hacks during the election campaign, and now the buzz over these three states, Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein has launched a fundraising campaign for recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Stein said she wants to investigate the "unexpected results of the election and reported anomalies."

"These concerns need to be investigated before the 2016 presidential election is certified. We deserve elections we can trust," she said in a statement.

electronic-voting-machines.jpg

Electronic voting machines have become popular in many U.S. states. (Rick Wilking/Reuters)

Meanwhile, officials from the Clinton campaign have given no indication they plan to contest the results.

How likely is Stein to get recounts?
Well, it looks promising in at least two states.

On Friday, Stein's campaign organization filed a petition with the Wisconsin Elections Commission, which later said it was "preparing to move forward with a statewide recount of votes for president of the United States."

Under Wisconsin law, the petitioner for a recount must have been a candidate, must state a reason for a recount and must raise enough money to cover the filing fees if they didn't reach a certain percentage of the vote. Stein's campaign has estimated a Wisconsin recount will cost $1.1 million US, which the team says it has raised.

The problem could be the time constraints. There were about three million votes cast, and the Stein campaign wants the recount done by hand. The last recount in the state, in 2011, took more than a month to complete, meaning this recount could pass the Dec. 19 deadline for electoral college votes.

Stein's campaign said it has also raised enough money for a recount of the 4.8 million ballots in Michigan — a cost of $125 per precinct for the 6,300 precincts in the state, according to the Detroit Free Press. (Stein can't request a recount in Michigan until the vote is certified, which is expected on Monday.)

Pennsylvania might be a bit trickier. The state allows individual voters to petition for a recount, but the deadline was last Sunday. A candidate can also contest an election in court, and the deadline for that is Monday.

Will a recount change anything?
Very doubtful, most experts say. Recounts often increase the vote tallies of both candidates. Trump beat Clinton in Pennsylvania by 70,000 votes, in Michigan by 10,000 votes and in Wisconsin by 27,000 votes.

Even Stein herself said they don't have any "smoking gun" evidence of voter fraud, and that she's not trying to overthrow Donald Trump and doubts that will be the outcome.

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Most experts say there's little chance recounts would overturn Donald Trump's victory. (Mike Segar/Reuters)

With files from Reuters


有人分析说是Green party想炒作自己。
 
”他发表声明说,选举结果应该得到尊重而不是挑战和侵犯”

川普现在是理直气壮地接受这个他曾口口声声谴责的Rigged选举结果了 :D
 
希拉里想翻盘是不可能的了。
另外重要的是,TRUMP已经不再追究希拉里了,所以,就算她权力欲再盛,也不可能再出来的了。


如果希拉里翻身做总统,她怕川普追究吗?
 
有人分析说是Green party想炒作自己。

美国奇葩事儿也不少。这次选举多么具有戏剧性啊。
 
”他发表声明说,选举结果应该得到尊重而不是挑战和侵犯”

川普现在是理直气壮地接受这个他曾口口声声谴责的Rigged选举结果了 :D

选举结果出来前他怎么不说,"选举结果应该得到尊重而不是挑战和侵犯”啊。:D
 
选举结果出来前他怎么不说,"选举结果应该得到尊重而不是挑战和侵犯”啊。:D


他之前就说了,只是加了一个条件:
如果他当选的话。
可见他是说话算数的。
 
他之前就说了,只是加了一个条件:
如果他当选的话。
可见他是说话算数的。

是么,高人。
 
Is this why they always finish up with a prayer "God bless America"? ;)
美国奇葩事儿也不少。这次选举多么具有戏剧性啊。
 
如果希拉里翻身做总统,她怕川普追究吗?
如果希拉里想翻盘,她的下场会更糟糕,你相信吗?万一,她真的翻盘成功,那么,必将致美国分裂,你相信吗?
 
如果希拉里想翻盘,她的下场会更糟糕,你相信吗?万一,她真的翻盘成功,那么,必将致美国分裂,你相信吗?

我不信。240年,他们白活了。:p:D
 
选举结果出来前他怎么不说,"选举结果应该得到尊重而不是挑战和侵犯”啊。:D
但是他并没有象希拉里那样的幻想着赢了、连报纸都印好了的姿势呀。:)
 
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