法科，近日，美国宇航局发出警告，漫长的寒冷“冬季”即将在几个月内袭击大气层表面，并带来创纪录的低温

[zhangulei]

有人攻击，我就take。
但是，敌意解决不了基本问题。

看看这段视频，看看左派多么的激情澎湃，老右派又是多么的冷血和理性。看视频的时候，就觉得，左派右派分别来自两个不同的星星。haha

 

[zhangulei]

 

[笃悠悠]

听Jordan Peterson 砍气候变化？ 世界上第一个有关全球变暖的计算机模型在普林斯顿大学的GFDL 问世时，Jordan 还只有7岁，支持全球变化观点的戈尔大概还在大学里抽大麻，泡妞呢。科学问题不会因为政治人物的支持或反对而改变其科学问题的本质。对一个科学问题的认识用左右去评判不觉得太可笑了么？有喷的功夫，去了解一下有关这个问题的常识，对一个很注重教育的人很难么？

 

[m234]

如题，
近日，美国宇航局发出警告，漫长的寒冷“冬季”即将在几个月内袭击大气层表面，并带来创纪录的低温

有出处吗？

 

[zhangulei]

听Jordan Peterson 砍气候变化？ 世界上第一个有关全球变暖的计算机模型在普林斯顿大学的GFDL 问世时，Jordan 还只有7岁，支持全球变化观点的戈尔大概还在大学里抽大麻，泡妞呢。科学问题不会因为政治人物的支持或反对而改变其科学问题的本质。对一个科学问题的认识用左右去评判不觉得太可笑了么？有喷的功夫，去了解一下有关这个问题的常识，对一个很注重教育的人很难么？

后人一定比前人傻？科学本质上是逻辑支持的认知过程。一个化学反应，得到一个确实的结论，都需要排除一切其他的可能。何况气候变化，哈哈。

温室效应没错。但是，到底占多大比例，人类是否需要干预，人类活动由对温室效应有多大影响，如何干预，拐点在哪里？干预不了的话，是不是应该把资源用于更重要的可以干预的事情上去。

有人上来就排除太阳活动，等等更为主要的因素。要知道，对太阳的认知，人类还很浅。更不要说历史数据了。这里面还有其他比太阳次要，但是依然比温室效应更为重要的因素。JBP所说的度量的问题，更是一大讽刺。那些地球历史温度数据的误差和统计办法，现在地球的温度衡量方法。

你不如现身说法。上来就大棒，不如说点有趣的科学。

反正越来越冷了。反正“气候变化拐点已经过去|这可不是我说的，这是很久以前，科学家说的。

 

[rottenmelon]

这个？
https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/16/a-mi...-and-its-going-to-get-very-very-cold-8146529/

 

[rottenmelon]

大鹅赶紧买起来...要扛-50c这种。。。

 

[zhangulei]

振聋发聩一下，这才是理性

All weather on Earth, from the surface of the planet out into space, begins with the Sun. Space weather and terrestrial weather (the weather we feel at the surface) are influenced by the small changes the Sun undergoes during its solar cycle.

太阳因素得重要性远远在地球上发生的任何事情之上。

 

[rottenmelon]

 

[zhangulei]

Something's Happening to the Sun Right Now, Here's What It Means for Earth
11-13-2018
Benjamin Gill

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Scientists say Earth's atmosphere is about to get hit by some record cold – but it's not because of anything caused by humans. It's because of a lack of sunspots which means a major decrease in ultraviolet waves coming in our direction.

Dr. Tony Philipps of SpaceWeatherArchive.com says there have been practically no sunspots in 2018, and that's causing earth's upper atmosphere to cool down and even shrink. He cites some experts from NASA.

"We see a cooling trend," says Martin Mlynczak of NASA's Langley Research Center. "High above Earth's surface, near the edge of space, our atmosphere is losing heat energy. If current trends continue, it could soon set a Space Age record for cold."



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If the trend continues, the NASA scientist says we could see record cold in a matter of months.

"The thermosphere always cools off during Solar Minimum. It's one of the most important ways the solar cycle affects our planet," Mlynczak said.

NASA's space weather website further explains, "All weather on Earth, from the surface of the planet out into space, begins with the Sun. Space weather and terrestrial weather (the weather we feel at the surface) are influenced by the small changes the Sun undergoes during its solar cycle."

So NASA has created a Thermosphere Climate Index (TCI) described as "a weather metric that tells us how the top of Earth's atmosphere (or 'thermosphere') is responding to solar activity."

The TCI shows that, right now, "the top of Earth's atmosphere is approximately 10 times cooler than it was during the record-setting Solar Max of 1957-58."

Meanwhile, SpaceWeatherArchive.com also reports that when sunspots decrease, atmospheric radiation actually increases, and that's been happening across the USA. That increased radiation from the sun can be a cancer hazard for airline workers who are exposed to more radiation since they operate at higher altitudes. There's also speculation that this radiation affects heart rate and cardiac arrhythmias on Earth's surface.

And the article explains, "Weather and climate may also be affected, with some research linking cosmic rays to the formation of clouds and lightning."

 

[rottenmelon]

休士顿在下雪...气候？天气？还是大气？不开森了？

 

[zhangulei]

你大概都没有听 Jordan Peterson 说什么，他砍的不是气候，而是应对气候的政策。这个完全是政治问题。

科学本质是可以证伪而已。如果把科学等同于真理，那就不是科学。是宗教信仰。以前流行过全球变冷理论，后来被全球变暖推翻了。以后对全球变暖的那些解释就不可能被推翻吗？ 那可说不准。

他说的三点。
人类活动导致的气候变暖，测量hehe，误差呵呵。
转变气候，人类还嫩还嫩。
在globalwarming框架下人类伟大的统一，呵呵。

 

[zhangulei]

weather 和 climate，太阳从逻辑上都是首要因素，。在研究清楚，并且排除太阳这一因素之前，
何谈其他？还人类，人类跟太阳的万有引力比起来，真的就那么重要吗？

 

[zhangulei]

休士顿在下雪...气候？天气？还是大气？不开森了？
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得，滑雪的爽了。

 

[rottenmelon]

得，滑雪的爽了。

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