ZT 辉瑞疫苗有效率只有29%?美国实验真造假吗?

好像说中国疫苗在巴西实验最后结果50%的有效率。然后辉瑞疫苗有效率还是比不上啊。

统计方法不一样

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CFC上有几个实在是没法说,只为攻击中国而生。打疫苗的问题和人类基因有关,
建议小孩(或是要繁衍后代的)的至少到目前为止还是不要打mRNA疫苗,在没100%明确的情况下,后果还真不好说。
 
打过疫苗以后,蒙特利尔一个中心7个人感染了病毒。 一个楼就感染了7个,即使第一针50%有效,也是很高的数字。
这个不说明问题。是10个人打了疫苗有7个被感染,还是1万个人打了,或是100万个人打了疫苗?你的结论“也是很高的数字”让人摸不着头脑。
 
这个不说明问题。是10个人打了疫苗有7个被感染,还是1万个人打了,或是100万个人打了疫苗?你的结论“也是很高的数字”让人摸不着头脑。
这个好像是个犹太人养老中心,一个大楼住的人不会很多。
注意,感染人数当然跟总人数有关,但是不能混淆, 不是所有人都会感染。比喻1000人,感染率是5%, 那么如果不打疫苗的感染人数就是50,而且这么短时间感染了。 pfizer 4万人打疫苗,几个月总共也只有170 confirmed cases
所以,7个人感染对一个大楼来说,怎么讲都是很高的数字。
 
这个说了是养老院住户, 所以实际人数可以参考其他养老院人数跟感染率。
这上面说第一针以后有90%的防疫效果,这个就是bullshit,打了疫苗有90%, 还能阻止病毒传播给其他人,算算看如果不打疫苗要多少人感染(算上阻止感染的)?而且这上面说三周前打的疫苗,现在才报道感染,估计俩周已过
“Please rest assured that this change will not affect your health or well-being. In fact, research has shown that the Pfizer vaccine achieves 90% effectiveness two weeks after the first dose has been administered. The second dose is a “booster” shot that enhances the already high level of protection,” Dr. Rosenberg wrote in a statement.
 
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打过疫苗以后,蒙特利尔一个中心7个人感染了病毒。 一个楼就感染了7个,即使第一针50%有效,也是很高的数字。

哈哈哈,美帝疫苗估计只有百分之一的有效,快去服用板蓝根
 
据谁说?巴西自己报告说,对于阻止中重程度的成功率是100%,不需要进医院的轻症率阻止率78%。
你自己上网查新闻。
 
如果这个是真的, FDA的专家们必须刨腹自尽了
一个反对一切疫苗的疯子的疯话,“发表”在一个医学杂志的评论区,被一个坏人描绘成一个专家在一个顶级杂志发表的论文,去骗一群傻子,在华人媒体里流传。
 
hold your horse, 这个会是一个很好的疫苗实际效果案例。等等看这7个感染的人有没有转重症状或者死亡的,如果没有,说明疫苗还是比较好的, 老人院。
 
19% or 95%? US expert challenges Pfizer vaccine’s efficacy, triggers debates in China
By Leng Shumei and Bai YunyiPublished: Jan 13, 2021 10:55 PM

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An illustration shows vials of a COVID-19 vaccine and syringes with the logos of US pharmaceutical company Pfizer and German partner BioNTech. Photo: AFP

Questions raised by Peter Doshi, an assistant professor of pharmaceutical health services research at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy, have triggered heated discussion on Chinese social media.

Doshi's opinion was disputed among Chinese vaccine experts interviewed by the Global Times. Many experts agreed that Pfizer should provide more raw data for peer review but said Doshi's methodology may be flawed.

Chinese experts also noted that disputes often arise from clinical trial data of COVID-19 vaccines, given the difference in participant groups and how different pharmaceutical companies define COVID-19 symptoms differently. They said that the efficacy rate of a vaccine should be evaluated in a more comprehensive manner, citing Sinovac as an example.

Sinovac vaccine received a 50.3-percent efficacy rate on Wednesday, based on phase III clinical trials in Brazil. But the figure was largely due to the fact that participants in Brazil are all medical workers with a very high infection risk, experts said.

Doshi on January 4 released an article on a blog platform under the UK pharmaceutical journal The BMJ, questioning Pfizer's efficacy rate.

Pfizer revealed that it discovered 170 PCR confirmed COVID-19 cases during the phase III clinical trials and 3,410 suspected cases in total.

However, if taking these suspected cases all as confirmed ones, the Pfizer vaccine's efficacy would be dramatically reduced to 19 percent. Even after omitting cases occurring within seven days of vaccination, which should include the majority of symptoms due to short-term vaccine reactogenicity, the efficacy rate remains as low as 29 percent, Doshi said in the article.

Doshi also questioned the standards of how Pfizer excluded cases and the influence of the use of medication on the vaccine's efficacy.

Doshi's comments triggered controversy on Chinese social media platforms, with some Chinese experts doubting Doshi's counting method for efficacy as he takes all participants showing symptoms to be confirmed COVID-19 cases, even if PRC tests show negative results.

"The PRC test is of very high sensitivity, 98.6 percent in the last year. But its sensitivity could be only 5 percent under Doshi's counting method," Zhuang Shilihe, a Guangzhou-based vaccine doctor, told the Global Times on Wednesday.

Zhuang noted that Doshi's doubts may be related to the anti-vaccine movement in the US, noting that Doshi has previously criticized other vaccines like the flu vaccines.

A Beijing-based vaccine expert who required anonymity expressed distrust of Pfizer's efficacy, but he did not directly comment on Doshi's doubts.

Despite different opinions on the Pfizer vaccine's efficacy, both experts said that Pfizer should reveal the raw data for peer review to better analyze the vaccine, so as to exclude the influence of any environmental or other elements on the efficacy.
 
一个医生,只看过两个病人。一个死了,一个痊愈。他逢人便说我的病人50%都痊愈了,只有一人死亡。他没说谎。
 
3,410 suspected cases假如都经过PCR test negative, 而且PCR又有98.6%的sensitivity, 可以认为Pfizer排除这3410个疑似病例是对的, 即使考虑误差,不到5%而已。
 
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