2021年大学录取EA/ED开始,滑大热门专业提高门槛

@bonjour 说的5分是AP 证书 微积分的,和我说的IB 6/7分不是一回事情。 IB MATH HL 6+真不好拿,一个IB学校一届没多少人能在MATH HL 拿6+。

在另外一个关于几个家庭条件较差的美国高中生励志考上MIT的, 有个IB生被MIT生物录取,IB 生物还不是HL, 但拿了2个AP 微积分证书的最高分5分,如果他没有这2个AP 微积分证书的最高分5分,凭他的IB几个分数,也没戏。
靠AP Calculus 5分进MIT太扯了,肯定是因为其他条件好。娃班上考AP Calculus 时,将近一半得5分,老师email 里说的。
 
我和你的说法不冲突。 就是如果大学不SPECIFY IB的具体科目和分数的要求, 就按ONTARIO OSSD(IB 加权加分后)

如果大学特意对特定IB科目的要求,我的理解是站得住脚的。

特意看了一下另外5大金刚之一的,多大ES对IB的要求, 它对IB 的MATH HL 的要求就松了很多,3个都可以,没有必须但就是强烈建议 选MATH AA HL。 更没有对MATH AA HL 6+的要求、

International Baccalaureate​


Candidates completing their First Assessment in May 2021 must present:​

  • Mathematics — one of the following:
    • Analysis and Approaches HL*
    • Analysis and Approaches SL
    • Applications and Interpretations HL
  • Chemistry
  • Physics
  • English
* Mathematics: Analysis and Approaches HL is strongly recommended.

Candidates who have completed the IB Diploma prior to November 2020 must present:

  • Mathematics **
  • Chemistry
  • Physics
  • English

  • ** Recommended at the Higher Level; Math Studies is not acceptable.
上面那位网友说的学校的回答好像不是这样。
应该是即使是IB学生,但是以Ontario OSSD申请入学,和IB没关系吧?
 
靠AP Calculus 5分进MIT太扯了,肯定是因为其他条件好。娃班上考AP Calculus 时,将近一半得5分,老师email 里说的。
再给你贴一下这个波兰移民IB青年进MIT 生物之路。

又一个进MIT 本科的励志的,波兰裔, 中低收入,IB 学生,同时有3+2 AP证书 (其中两门AP微积分 最高分5分))

Demographics

Gender: Male

Race: White

Residence: Midwest

Bracket: Lower Middle Class

Type of School: Public, Big City

Hooks: First-generation college student, first-generation immigrant

Intended Major: Biology/Pre-med

Academics

GPA: 3.91 UW / 4.77 W

Class Rank: 13/775

Honors/APs/IBs/Dual-Enrollment/etc.: 11 Honors, 3 APs: APUSH (4), Bio (5), Chem (5), 7 IBs (Senior Year included): Math Studies SL (7), Rest in spring

Two APs outside of school: AP Calc AB (5), AP Calc BC (5)

Senior Year Courses: IB Lang. + Lit. HL, IB History HL, IB Film HL, IB Bio SL, Theory of Knowledge, IB French HL, AP Gov.

Test Scores

SAT I: 1550 (760 ERW, 790 M)

SAT II: Math II (800), Chem (800)

ACT: 35 (36 M, 36 S, 35 W, 34 R)

Extracurriculars

  1. Volunteered at local church working at the food pantry for the poor and as a babysitter at the daycare they provided.
  2. Volunteered at my polish school as an assistant teacher and as a bookkeeper, also worked in maintenance.
  3. Math tutor since freshman year for students in high school, teaching mainly algebra, geometry, trig, pre-calc, and calc.
  4. Worked in my dad''s construction company
  5. Started a after-school course at my school to teach other students how to code in Python.
  6. Shadowed at children''s hospital
  7. Worked at a local polish publication in my area as a columnist.
  8. Was a part of a internationally-recognized polish folk group that (before COVID) traveled about 5 months in the year throughout the world. Also was a student teacher in the younger categories in this group.
Awards

  1. Student of the Month (High School) x5
  2. School Honor Roll
  3. Multiple literary contests for my poems and columns that I have written.
LORs

Biology Teacher: 9.5/10, Kind of the only teacher that I was actually close with in school, to the point that we are on a first-name basis. Wrote about my progress from not paying attention in his class to becoming a hard worker. Mentioned my constant obsession with asking for more resources.

History Teacher: 9/10, The only other teacher that has seen my growth due to IB classes being two-year courses. Talked about my improvement as a writer and leadership in the classroom. Mentioned a story about the time I got stuck in the history department''s walk-in safe.

Counselor: 6/10, Kind lady, but never spoke to her before senior year. She had my mother call and talk about me so that she could better understand who I am.

Polish School Principal: 8/10, Wrote about my evolution as a student and all the various organizations in the polish community that I participated in over the years. Probably the most personal letter of them all as she has known me since I was 3.

Personal Doctor: 10/10, Talked about his experiences with me as his patient and how those translated to me eventually shadowing at the same hospital. Mentioned our mutual friendship and plans to work on research papers in the near future.
 
上面那位网友说的学校的回答好像不是这样。
应该是即使是IB学生,但是以Ontario OSSD申请入学,和IB没关系吧?
我觉得是惯例和特例的关系吧,

如同找工作,人家有个啥最低要求比如大学本科啥专业学位之类,这是惯例, 如果人家不特指别的,你在中国拿的移民部认可的相关中国大学专业学历确实可以满足要求,但如果人家又加了一条特别的条件,这就是人家非常在意CARE的东西了,就是特例。如果缺少这个特指的而被拒,人家一点错都没有。
 
再给你贴一下这个波兰移民IB青年进MIT 生物之路。

又一个进MIT 本科的励志的,波兰裔, 中低收入,IB 学生,同时有3+2 AP证书 (其中两门AP微积分 最高分5分))

Demographics

Gender: Male

Race: White

Residence: Midwest

Bracket: Lower Middle Class

Type of School: Public, Big City

Hooks: First-generation college student, first-generation immigrant

Intended Major: Biology/Pre-med

Academics

GPA: 3.91 UW / 4.77 W

Class Rank: 13/775

Honors/APs/IBs/Dual-Enrollment/etc.: 11 Honors, 3 APs: APUSH (4), Bio (5), Chem (5), 7 IBs (Senior Year included): Math Studies SL (7), Rest in spring

Two APs outside of school: AP Calc AB (5), AP Calc BC (5)

Senior Year Courses: IB Lang. + Lit. HL, IB History HL, IB Film HL, IB Bio SL, Theory of Knowledge, IB French HL, AP Gov.

Test Scores

SAT I: 1550 (760 ERW, 790 M)

SAT II: Math II (800), Chem (800)

ACT: 35 (36 M, 36 S, 35 W, 34 R)

Extracurriculars

  1. Volunteered at local church working at the food pantry for the poor and as a babysitter at the daycare they provided.
  2. Volunteered at my polish school as an assistant teacher and as a bookkeeper, also worked in maintenance.
  3. Math tutor since freshman year for students in high school, teaching mainly algebra, geometry, trig, pre-calc, and calc.
  4. Worked in my dad''s construction company
  5. Started a after-school course at my school to teach other students how to code in Python.
  6. Shadowed at children''s hospital
  7. Worked at a local polish publication in my area as a columnist.
  8. Was a part of a internationally-recognized polish folk group that (before COVID) traveled about 5 months in the year throughout the world. Also was a student teacher in the younger categories in this group.
Awards

  1. Student of the Month (High School) x5
  2. School Honor Roll
  3. Multiple literary contests for my poems and columns that I have written.
LORs

Biology Teacher: 9.5/10, Kind of the only teacher that I was actually close with in school, to the point that we are on a first-name basis. Wrote about my progress from not paying attention in his class to becoming a hard worker. Mentioned my constant obsession with asking for more resources.

History Teacher: 9/10, The only other teacher that has seen my growth due to IB classes being two-year courses. Talked about my improvement as a writer and leadership in the classroom. Mentioned a story about the time I got stuck in the history department''s walk-in safe.

Counselor: 6/10, Kind lady, but never spoke to her before senior year. She had my mother call and talk about me so that she could better understand who I am.

Polish School Principal: 8/10, Wrote about my evolution as a student and all the various organizations in the polish community that I participated in over the years. Probably the most personal letter of them all as she has known me since I was 3.

Personal Doctor: 10/10, Talked about his experiences with me as his patient and how those translated to me eventually shadowing at the same hospital. Mentioned our mutual friendship and plans to work on research papers in the near future.
这份成绩单你稍微看下就该明白他为啥在校外考了两门AP Math。。因为校内IB Math选的是SL,虽然成绩是7分,不得不用两个AP 5分来背书。如果校内选的HL Math,也是7分,根本用不着。。
 
这份成绩单你稍微看下就该明白他为啥在校外考了两门AP Math。。因为校内IB Math选的是SL,虽然成绩是7分,不得不用两个AP来背书。如果校内选的HL Math,也是7分,根本用不着。。
是这个意思。

另外在美国申请牛校,AP比例或权重更高一点,别拍砖啊,我看到的那些在美国申请进牛校的,AP是大部分。当然还有一堆客观的统考:SAT 普项,SAT 专项,ACT,

加拿大仅剩的EQAO得保全了,如果把这客观的还不算全面的统考取消了,加拿大的教育真的被拉下太远了。
 
是这个意思。

另外在美国申请牛校,AP比例或权重更高一点,别拍砖啊,我看到的那些在美国申请进牛校的,AP是大部分。当然还有一堆客观的统考:SAT 普项,SAT 专项,ACT,

加拿大仅剩的EQAO得保全了,如果把这客观的还不算全面的统考取消了,加拿大的教育真的被拉下太远了。
IB HL Math AA主要是在广度上远大于AP Math,深度上微积分这个分支难度也许类似。。如果有能力,HL当然是能学最好学,为今后的大学学习打基础。

另外,college board已经明确取消了今后的sat 专项,sat 普项也被更多学校变成可选项。。。所以你之前推崇的美国客观化考试也是越来越没参考价值,真不知道北美大学选人,在系统上怎么和中国的高考比。。
 
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我和你的说法不冲突。 就是如果大学不SPECIFY IB的具体科目和分数的要求, 就按ONTARIO OSSD(IB 加权加分后)

如果大学特意对特定IB科目的要求,我的理解是站得住脚的。

特意看了一下另外5大金刚之一的,多大ES对IB的要求, 它对IB 的MATH HL 的要求就松了很多,3个都可以,没有必须但就是强烈建议 选MATH AA HL。 更没有对MATH AA HL 6+的要求、


"我和你的说法不冲突"? 冲突 or不冲突 I don't know and careless. But 你的说法 contravenes CB Guidance Counselor Sarah Storey response: "You are applying with your Ontario OSSD. You will use your IB Diploma for some advanced standing in the first year". Mark her words.
 
"我和你的说法不冲突"? 冲突 or不冲突 I don't know and careless. But 你的说法 contravenes CB Guidance Counselor Sarah Storey response: "You are applying with your Ontario OSSD. You will use your IB Diploma for some advanced standing in the first year". Mark her words.

各自解读吧,不求所有人同意我观点。
我坚持认为几个少数大学或PROGRAM(都是有特定或某方面竞争非常激烈)有自己的判据。

去MATH HL 也好(针对IB学生),还是TAKE 几个可能绝对分有些影响的AP课程(针对EOM学生), TAKE MORE RISK AND challenge的理应得到相应认可和回报。

EOM的AP的REWARD很明显。 当初很多EOM家长和学生,都有类似犹豫,但我知道的,EOM去TAKE AP的,如果能拿到85+都得到了相对应的REWARD。去竞争激烈或好的PROGRAM的基本大多数都是选AP的学生。

IB 的MATH HL以前这个REWARD因子不明显。 因为以前TAKE MATH HL毕业的人数太少。以后这个REWARD因子会更明显。

JUST MY 2 CENTS
 
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"我和你的说法不冲突"? 冲突 or不冲突 I don't know and careless. But 你的说法 contravenes CB Guidance Counselor Sarah Storey response: "You are applying with your Ontario OSSD. You will use your IB Diploma for some advanced standing in the first year". Mark her words.
各自解读吧,不求所有人同意我观点。
我坚持人家几个少数大学PROGRAM(都是有特定或某方面竞争非常激烈)有自己的判据。

去MATH HL 也好(针对IB学生),还是TAKE 几个可能绝对分有些影响的AP课程(针对EOM学生), TAKE MORE RISK AND challenge的理应得到相应认可和回报。

EOM的AP的REWARD很明显。 当初很多EOM家长和学生,都有类似犹豫,但我知道的,EOM去TAKE AP的,如果能拿到85+都得到了相对应的REWARD。去竞争激烈或好的PROGRAM的基本大多数都是选AP的学生。

IB 的MATH HL以前这个REWARD因子不明显。 因为以前TAKE MATH HL毕业的人数太少。以后这个REWARD因子会更明显。

JUST MY 2 CENTS
你们两人的说法应该只能有一人是正确的,在这录取标准上不应各自解读。
 
@ert0000
借楼咨询热老师:草原省的小女孩,自愿学CS,现在的向往是AI,UT和McGill的EA已到手,申请的时候就自信稳拿。Waterloo CS 也申请了,也有可能。家长不喜欢Waterloo的魔鬼式COOP,希望去UT。小女孩想去McGill,唯一的理由是想和姐姐在一起,姐姐在蒙特利尔工作。
 
IB HL Math AA主要是在广度上远大于AP Math,深度上微积分这个分支难度也许类似。。如果有能力,HL当然是能学最好学,为今后的大学学习打基础。

另外,college board已经明确取消了今后的sat 专项,sat 普项也被更多学校变成可选项。。。所以你之前推崇的美国客观化考试也是越来越没参考价值,真不知道北美大学选人,在系统上怎么和中国的高考比。
曾有幸拜读过传说中的IB MATH HL 的课本,基本上就是蜻蜓点水,面面俱到。在当前的授课形式下面儿也减了一半,可以在一周4天里讲完等差/等比级数,排列组合,数学归纳法。对这种教法,和学生的学法很无语。
 
借楼咨询热老师:草原省的小女孩,自愿学CS,现在的向往是AI,UT和McGill的EA已到手,申请的时候就自信稳拿。Waterloo CS 也申请了,也有可能。家长不喜欢Waterloo的魔鬼式COOP,希望去UT。小女孩想去McGill,唯一的理由是想和姐姐在一起,姐姐在蒙特利尔工作。

如果是你这情况,我个人认为,小女孩去多大或MCGILL更好。


至于去多大还是MCGILL, 我个人倾向MCGILL。 毕竟人家有个姐姐在MONTREAL ,生活有个照应,小女孩个人也希望,MONTREAL 生活费用也比多伦多低很多。AI 几个大拿在MCGILL, 李飞飞就多次肯定MCGILL几个教授对AI的贡献,说MCGILL几个教授的AI 图形算法准确率最高。

MCGILL第一年不细分专业,第二年有个竞争考试,但MCGILL扩招的比例比多大低不少
多大扩招比例较大,第二年同样有个竞争和筛选。
 
如果是你这情况,我个人认为,小女孩去多大或MCGILL更好。


至于去多大还是MCGILL, 我个人倾向MCGILL。 毕竟人家有个姐姐在MONTREAL ,生活有个照应,小女孩个人也希望,MONTREAL 生活费用也比多伦多低很多。AI 几个大拿在MCGILL, 李飞飞就多次肯定MCGILL几个教授对AI的贡献,说MCGILL几个教授的AI 图形算法准确率最高。

MCGILL第一年不细分专业,第二年有个竞争考试
多大扩招比例较大,第二年同样有个竞争和筛选。
谢热老师。MCGILL第一年不细分专业,但也没有竞争考试,肯定可进CS。多大今年改了,直接申请CS
 
@ert0000
借楼咨询热老师:草原省的小女孩,自愿学CS,现在的向往是AI,UT和McGill的EA已到手,申请的时候就自信稳拿。Waterloo CS 也申请了,也有可能。家长不喜欢Waterloo的魔鬼式COOP,希望去UT。小女孩想去McGill,唯一的理由是想和姐姐在一起,姐姐在蒙特利尔工作。
EA 的是什么专业。
 
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