卡车司机组车队抗议 - 是不是过头了？支持还是反对？

[lindamy]

Thousands in Ottawa protest COVID mandates, many rebuked​

today

OTTAWA, Ontario (AP) — Thousands of protesters gathered in Canada’s capital on Saturday to protest vaccine mandates, masks and lockdowns.
Some parked on the grounds of the National War Memorial and danced on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, others carried signs and flags with swastikas and some used the statue of Canadian hero Terry Fox to display an anti-vaccine statement, sparking widespread condemnation.

 

[dreameratcfc]

Thousands in Ottawa protest COVID mandates, many rebuked​

today

OTTAWA, Ontario (AP) — Thousands of protesters gathered in Canada’s capital on Saturday to protest vaccine mandates, masks and lockdowns.
Some parked on the grounds of the National War Memorial and danced on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, others carried signs and flags with swastikas and some used the statue of Canadian hero Terry Fox to display an anti-vaccine statement, sparking widespread condemnation.
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[Summit]

Guardian news
@guardiannews

NHS England could employ unvaccinated staff after 1 April, says regulator

Trusts cleared to use unvaccinated health staff amid reports of Javid U-turn

Frontline staff in English hospitals who have not had jab may be able to work if dangerous understaffing deemed a greater risk, says regulator

www.theguardian.com

这是发现了什么吗？

好消息。英国上次因着首相府去年封城关停禁令期间的派对丑闻曝光之后，撤消了许多疫情强制令，应该和那有关。可见防疫政策不是如圣旨般不能质疑。灵活务实的人应该知错就改，不能永远伟光正。

 

[lifeisfun]

好消息。英国上次因着首相府去年封城关停禁令期间的派对丑闻曝光之后，撤消了许多疫情强制令，应该和那有关。可见防疫政策不是如圣旨般不能质疑。灵活务实的人应该知错就改，不能永远伟光正。

到这份上，许多措施就是给人看的，到底有多大作用鬼知道。土豆要是blame不打疫苗的，看看他和他的政府疫情以来做的臭事，需要blame的多了去了。所以别和我说不打疫苗就要死多少人。

 

[BFB_GMAIL]

为啥司机必须打了疫苗上岗？

我本来以为卡车司机抗议的是no jab no job, 但后来发现不是。

加拿大早就有要求, 从境外回加的旅客如果没疫苗就要隔离、PCR。以前这规定对卡车司机豁免， 但现在豁免期过了, 未苗司机可以上岗, 但返加后要隔离、PCR, 他们抗议的是这个。

Earlier this month, federal rules for unvaccinated or partially vaccinated Canadian truckers entering Canada from the U.S. took effect.

Truckers who are not fully vaccinated must get a PCR test and quarantine.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/convoy-protest-border-lethbridge-alberta-1.6332936

 

[BFB_GMAIL]

如果未苗的卡车司机返加可以不隔离不检测, 是否所有入境旅客也都取消隔离检测呢？

如果只单独豁免卡车司机, 这合理吗？？？

 

[贵圈]

司机是为了全体加拿大人争取取消

vaccine mandate

以后

想打疫苗的，没人拦着，占便宜可以没够，一人打八珍。

不想打疫苗的也没人逼你。

入境不再依赖疫苗。

疫苗不防感染
也不防传播。


这逻辑很清晰。是司机们在位加拿大宪法，和加拿大人，捍卫权利。

 

[BFB_GMAIL]

我看到的报道都是关于这个示威是否peaceful, 是否respectful, 但很少看到报道讨论这场抗议的究竟都提了啥要求、这些要求是否合理。

As trucking convoy approaches Ottawa, police warn of traffic slowdowns

A convoy of Ottawa-bound commercial truckers protesting vaccine mandates could cause slowdowns across eastern Ontario, provincial police have warned.

ottawacitizen.com

A “memorandum of understanding,” posted on the Canada Unity website says its coalition is opposed to restrictions and mandates related to COVID-19, rules it deems are “unconstitutional, discriminatory and segregating.”

The memorandum’s goal, it says, is to form a committee with the Senate and governor-general that would override all levels of Canadian government to stop the use of vaccine passports, waive fines linked to COVID-19 and reinstate employees who were fired for breaking COVID-19 rules.

If the Senate and governor-general refuse to join such a committee, the group says they should “resign their lawful positions of authority immediately.”

 

[lindamy]

我看到的报道都是关于这个示威是否peaceful, 是否respectful, 但很少看到报道讨论这场抗议的究竟都提了啥要求、这些要求是否合理。

As trucking convoy approaches Ottawa, police warn of traffic slowdowns

A convoy of Ottawa-bound commercial truckers protesting vaccine mandates could cause slowdowns across eastern Ontario, provincial police have warned.

ottawacitizen.com

A “memorandum of understanding,” posted on the Canada Unity website says its coalition is opposed to restrictions and mandates related to COVID-19, rules it deems are “unconstitutional, discriminatory and segregating.”

The memorandum’s goal, it says, is to form a committee with the Senate and governor-general that would override all levels of Canadian government to stop the use of vaccine passports, waive fines linked to COVID-19 and reinstate employees who were fired for breaking COVID-19 rules.

If the Senate and governor-general refuse to join such a committee, the group says they should “resign their lawful positions of authority immediately.”

顺着有人给的林克，查了一下wiki,没见到什么了不起的诉求，就是取消疫苗强制和疫苗护照。再加上安省一位乘机要求解散政府，当然现在人多理杂了，反联邦的，魁独，甚至纳粹的万字旗都出现了，虽然不能代表主流，都算是搭便车的。时间长了诉求会更多了。

 

[lifeisfun]

我本来以为卡车司机抗议的是no jab no job, 但后来发现不是。

加拿大早就有要求, 从境外回加的旅客如果没疫苗就要隔离、PCR。以前这规定对卡车司机豁免， 但现在豁免期过了, 未苗司机可以上岗, 但返加后要隔离、PCR, 他们抗议的是这个。

Earlier this month, federal rules for unvaccinated or partially vaccinated Canadian truckers entering Canada from the U.S. took effect.

Truckers who are not fully vaccinated must get a PCR test and quarantine.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/convoy-protest-border-lethbridge-alberta-1.6332936

隔离需要时间吧，对工作的卡车司机很不方便。政策不能一视同仁吧。而且政府许多政策也就是装装门面，比如机场检查隔离，漏洞百出。卫生官员也是说话没谱，自己经常打脸。

 

[lifeisfun]

顺着有人给的林克，查了一下wiki,没见到什么了不起的诉求，就是取消疫苗强制和疫苗护照。再加上安省一位乘机要求解散政府，当然现在人多理杂了，反联邦的，魁独，甚至纳粹的万字旗都出现了，虽然不能代表主流，都算是搭便车的。时间长了诉求会更多了。

有万字旗? 我是看到美国南方联邦旗，最多的是日土豆的

 

[lindamy]

有万字旗? 我是看到美国南方联邦旗，最多的是日土豆的

AP的报道，349楼，我狗了一下，只看到街上有人打这旗。

Some demonstrators parked on the grounds of the National War Memorial and others carried signs and flags with swastikas, sparking widespread condemnation.

 

[Summit]

我本来以为卡车司机抗议的是no jab no job, 但后来发现不是。

加拿大早就有要求, 从境外回加的旅客如果没疫苗就要隔离、PCR。以前这规定对卡车司机豁免， 但现在豁免期过了, 未苗司机可以上岗, 但返加后要隔离、PCR, 他们抗议的是这个。

Earlier this month, federal rules for unvaccinated or partially vaccinated Canadian truckers entering Canada from the U.S. took effect.

Truckers who are not fully vaccinated must get a PCR test and quarantine.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/convoy-protest-border-lethbridge-alberta-1.6332936

还是那句话，醉翁之意不在酒。某苗证不在苗，而在证。
不苗无工，不在工，而在苗。同样，＂未苗司机可以上岗, 但返加后要隔离、PCR＂，不在隔离检测，而在苗。不是强苗你，而是强你不苗⋯这智商，这玩儿法，绝了！
吾皇万岁，英明神武。决不强迫子民打苗、但我们的规定是让不苗子民生不如死。

 

[BFB_GMAIL]

隔离需要时间吧，对工作的卡车司机很不方便。政策不能一视同仁吧。而且政府许多政策也就是装装门面，比如机场检查隔离，漏洞百出。卫生官员也是说话没谱，自己经常打脸。

那就把所有旅客入境的隔离检测全停了算了:
1、在奥米面前, 根本管不过来那么多人, 形同虚设, 那干脆就不设
2、在奥米面前, 搞这个也防不了境外输入
3、楼上也说了, 疫苗不防感染, 那只隔离未苗者没道理, 苗不苗的者的隔离检测不应差别对待

 

[lifeisfun]

AP的报道，349楼，我狗了一下，只看到街上有人打这旗。

Some demonstrators parked on the grounds of the National War Memorial and others carried signs and flags with swastikas, sparking widespread condemnation.

万字旗不一定代表纳粹，其他旗应该个人打打，打个五星红旗镰刀斧头旗估计也没人管。