那些入了籍又回国的人,你们将来还想回加拿大吗?

最初由 孤星夜雨 发布
"LG担心一旦过几年我年纪大了不能再在国内找到合适的工作,又拿个外国护照。就得离开中国。所以他也想让我放弃入籍。"

没有工作留在国内做什么?(除非你不用为生活工作)

我的忠告是:
(1) 国内的职业生命比较短, 三十到四十还可以在工作十年
(2) 四十以后,如果没有自己的事业, 你呆在国内做什么呢?
(3) 四十以后,在加拿大工作的人,比比皆是

所以,你要末在国内四十前能搞定一切,否责怎么打算呢?

其实,做为打工族来说,在那里没有工作,生活都不会好.如果你不用为生活打工,在那里都能过得好.

你现在在国内有工作,在加拿大没有工作,当然是国内好,如果有一天,在国内没有工作,情况就会不一样的.

每个人情况不一样,所以有的说国内好,有的说加拿大好.其实,为生计奔波的时候,有工作的地方才好.就是这么简单.

其实,入籍是个不错的保障. 因为如果你在国内不用工作能生活的时候,或者有自己的business的时候,有个护照可以方便到出走走,有何不好? 在国内混不下去,也可以回来试一下机会.

我实在看不出入籍有什么坏处. 除非立刻影响你现在的工作. 如果这样,总有其他工作吧.如果连十年后的签证费和路费都算计在内,那也实在是没有什么理想. 在那都一样.

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对于大多数回流的人来说,不管在加拿大还是中国,恐怕都得靠为别人工作而谋生。能有自己business的毕竟是少数。同样是打工,恐怕还是国内的工作好找一些,在那里你到底已经有了一个比较广泛的社会关系网。在加拿大,不是一到找工作的时候,大家就说network。可扪心自问,就算我们的英语再流畅,我们又能有多大的network呢?同样,就算我们在加拿大工作了几年,我们究竟给自己打下了多坚实的基础呢?

我不知道回流且找到工作的朋友中,四十岁以上的人占多大比例。在这里有房有车的又占多大比例?有孩子的又占多大比例,这些孩子的教育问题又如何解决。我很想知道这些人回国后的感受和对将来的打算。

这次回国给我最大的感受是三十岁到三十五岁这个年龄段的人,他们的朝气、自信和工作的热情,真是出乎我的意料。想想我们为保留身份花费的时间、精力,以及在加拿大失业时所受的心理压力,我总是忍不住要想这是否值得。

同样的疑惑是,我们总在谈论在国内不能生活时回加拿大试一下机会。那时候,就算在加拿大,还有多少机会能留给一个已经离开加拿大近十年的人?国内的工资水平,恐怕还是没法为将来回加拿大作足物质上的准备。而且现在回国的人,很多工作一段时间,都怕是要往技术管理上发展,以这样的经历回加拿大,还有多大的可能性找到纯技术类的工作。而在加拿大,纯技术工作恐怕还是我们这样的外来人口的最佳的选择。

对我来说,最苦恼的就是,在那里养老的问题,在国内生活了四五十年后,再到一个陌生的地方养老,这简直不可想象。而养老问题正是很多人劝我保留加籍的主要原因,因为国内的养老保障不是很健全。退休后没有足够的社会保障是件痛苦的事,退休后离开中国找不到归属感也一样折磨人。

我们花费了巨大的精力和财力拿到加拿大国籍,为了以后买一份保险。然后,我们又开始为了在国内长期居留而奋斗,真有点儿此生飘荡何时休的味道。我们为十年后回加拿大留了一条路,可我们考虑过这本护照在这十年里将带给我们的不确定(不是不便)吗?还有如果我们再考虑远一些呢?我们究竟是谁,我们的根究竟在哪里呢?

对不起,我这个人就是爱瞎想。
 
人都了四十岁还为生活奔波,在那都一样
很难在翻身
 
Exactly. Lottery is the only hope.

最初由 孤星夜雨 发布
人都了四十岁还为生活奔波,在那都一样
很难在翻身
 
let's have some positive input

ok, i think it is the time to stope negative but get more and more positive in this point.

i know life is a bitch but you still have to face. the problem of you is that you constantly shifting your strategies that simply make your credit fleeting.

your life will be much better either in China or in Canada as long as you and your LG can hold your bottom line and work hard toward your goals consistently for a long time. The more passion you chip in, the longer you are and, the more important, you TWO hold it, the better the result will be.

i would rather believe of getting a Canadian passport is a minor thing. rather than that you need to know exactly in your deep heart what you want and act upon on it right away. do not think too much of monetary return right now, neither thinking of 30 years later where you will retire. listen, it is not important right now. the more you are worried about those remote things, the less likely that you will pay attention to your current stuff which in return hinder your future.

i have seen tons of people who immigrate from China to live in Canada. Except a few very lucky ones. A lot of them need fight for their existence, their diginity and their social status. To be frank, many people will fail, but as long as you are determined and shrewed implement their strategies of living in a new society, be open and flexible, then, time will prove they will prevail in the end.

I HATE TO ENGAGE any arguement and fight in the bbs beause i firmly believe this is our promble as Chinese. We spent too much time fighting for existence in our society. In our cultural, the only way you win is to set up someone. Here, it just does not work. This is my point, be yourself and set up your goals, do not worry the blames or easily overjoy a tiny achievement, work your ass out for something that is really worthy in your life day in and day out.

i would say by having the true strategy of life is more important of your posting here. i shall see you would smile soon
 
Re: let's have some positive input

最初由 kentridge 发布
ok, i think it is the time to stope negative but get more and more positive in this point.

i know life is a bitch but you still have to face. the problem of you is that you constantly shifting your strategies that simply make your credit fleeting.

your life will be much better either in China or in Canada as long as you and your LG can hold your bottom line and work hard toward your goals consistently for a long time. The more passion you chip in, the longer you are and, the more important, you TWO hold it, the better the result will be.

i would rather believe of getting a Canadian passport is a minor thing. rather than that you need to know exactly in your deep heart what you want and act upon on it right away. do not think too much of monetary return right now, neither thinking of 30 years later where you will retire. listen, it is not important right now. the more you are worried about those remote things, the less likely that you will pay attention to your current stuff which in return hinder your future.

i have seen tons of people who immigrate from China to live in Canada. Except a few very lucky ones. A lot of them need fight for their existence, their diginity and their social status. To be frank, many people will fail, but as long as you are determined and shrewed implement their strategies of living in a new society, be open and flexible, then, time will prove they will prevail in the end.

I HATE TO ENGAGE any arguement and fight in the bbs beause i firmly believe this is our promble as Chinese. We spent too much time fighting for existence in our society. In our cultural, the only way you win is to set up someone. Here, it just does not work. This is my point, be yourself and set up your goals, do not worry the blames or easily overjoy a tiny achievement, work your ass out for something that is really worthy in your life day in and day out.

i would say by having the true strategy of life is more important of your posting here. i shall see you would smile soon


这坛子上还是有有点“水儿”的人物啊!全说到点子上了!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

英语好还不是主要的,关键是人家这眼光和阅历,这份人生态度!给三个大拇指一点不过分。

可惜很少看到这位兄弟发言。
 
我看完了这个主题的谈论,我很赞同这位楼主的观点和意见,我目前就入籍问题和想法都与你相似,看了这个讨论后更坚定了我不入籍的决心。我能给你的意见就是:走你的路,任别人去说吧!
 
我看完了这个主题的谈论,我很赞同这位楼主的观点和意见,我目前就入籍问题和想法都与你相似,看了这个讨论后更坚定了我不入籍的决心。我能给你的意见就是:走你的路,任别人去说吧!
 
最初由 樱花情节 发布
我看完了这个主题的谈论,我很赞同这位楼主的观点和意见,我目前就入籍问题和想法都与你相似,看了这个讨论后更坚定了我不入籍的决心。我能给你的意见就是:走你的路,任别人去说吧!

一个能影响了你的后半生的帖子,我建议你一定要将它刻在光盘上,五年甚至一年以后再读一下。如果对了,应该为当时的决定高兴,并对未来充满信心,如果错了,应该吸取教训,也对未来充满信心。
 
最初由 visitor 发布


一个能影响了你的后半生的帖子,我建议你一定要将它刻在光盘上,五年甚至一年以后再读一下。如果对了,应该为当时的决定高兴,并对未来充满信心,如果错了,应该吸取教训,也对未来充满信心。


Visitor, 别瞎糊弄别人!!哪有那么严重??

这又不是什么一锤子买卖。就说这两年暂时不入加拿大籍,如果过了几年想入了还可以申请,满足法律要求就可以入。

如果入了加拿大籍后来又想恢复中国国籍,也没问题啊,很早以前就在这个坛子上看到《全国人大常委会关于中华人民共和国国籍法的解释 --- 关于海外华人华侨的中国国籍的管理和认定以及归国华侨重新加入/恢复中国国籍的有关规定和实施细则....》

来回的手续都可以办,祖国是永远欢迎我们回家的,不管是回国工作,旅游探亲,投资经商,退休养老,还是无聊溜达。中国永远是我们这些海外华人华侨的大本营![只是有一条,在外面要凭良心做事,不要做对不起国家民族的事、说损害祖国父老乡亲的话也最好有个限度。]
 
GOOD

ding!!!

最初由 hxp417 发布



Visitor, 别瞎糊弄别人!!哪有那么严重??

这又不是什么一锤子买卖。就说这两年暂时不入加拿大籍,如果过了几年想入了还可以申请,满足法律要求就可以入。

如果入了加拿大籍后来又想恢复中国国籍,也没问题啊,很早以前就在这个坛子上看到《全国人大常委会关于中华人民共和国国籍法的解释 --- 关于海外华人华侨的中国国籍的管理和认定以及归国华侨重新加入/恢复中国国籍的有关规定和实施细则....》

来回的手续都可以办,祖国是永远欢迎我们回家的,不管是回国工作,旅游探亲,投资经商,退休养老,还是无聊溜达。中国永远是我们这些海外华人华侨的大本营![只是有一条,在外面要凭良心做事,不要做对不起国家民族的事、说损害祖国父老乡亲的话也最好有个限度。]
 
但是入籍搞不好要两年时间, 将来再返回中国籍弄不好要更长时间.
两年可以错过很多机会, 所以也是没准的事.
 
Kent帅哥的座右铭是“每天省一个夸特” :D

帅哥还这么扣扣索索的??
 
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