Keep your Promise ? No More Taxes!

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May 17, 2004

11,000 Taxpayers Tell the Premier:
Keep your Promise ? No More Taxes!

TORONTO: The Canadian Taxpayers Federation (CTF) and Toronto Sun Money Editor Linda Leatherdale delivered a petition with 11,000 signatures calling on Premier McGuinty to keep his promise not to raise taxes and not to run a deficit in tomorrow’s budget. The petition was received by Finance Minister Greg Sorbara at Queen’s Park today.

“We are pleased that the Minister received our petition, but dismayed at continued media reports of increased taxes in tomorrow’s budget,” said CTF Ontario Director Tasha Kheiriddin. “Of particular concern is the proposed health tax. Such a tax could reverse much of the tax relief granted by the previous administration and would break another Liberal campaign promise.”

During the election campaign, Dalton McGuinty promised voters, in television commercials, that he would not raise their taxes. He also signed a pledge not to raise taxes or run a deficit. And in a news release, dated September 25, 2003, the Liberals promised to “keep personal income tax rates and the Ernie Eves’ Fair Share Health Levy exactly where they are today.” A copy of said release is attached.

“Imposing this health tax without a referendum would effectively increase the Health Levy, which forms part of the income surtax. This would violate the Taxpayers’ Protection Act, which says that you can’t increase income taxes without a referendum,” said Kheiriddin. “If the government does not abide by the law and consult the people, the CTF will consider all legal options to fight this tax.”

For more information, contact:
Ontario Director Tasha Kheiriddin at 416-725-0501

Online Petition To Premier Dalton McGuinty
 
对于一个控制着联邦和省两级政府的政党,在下次选举以前,他们不会听你的。

去年省选时,俺没投Liberal的票,所以我现在对Liberal的出尔反尔,没有受骗的感觉。去年省选时,渐渐投的谁? (个人隐私,不必回答)

个人以为Liberal控制联邦政府的太长了,所以才有各种丑闻和无所谓顾忌,建议这次联邦选举时,搞掉Liberal。
 
最初由 visitor 发布
对于一个控制着联邦和省两级政府的政党,在下次选举以前,他们不会听你的。

去年省选时,俺没投Liberal的票,所以我现在对Liberal的出尔反尔,没有受骗的感觉。去年省选时,渐渐投的谁? (个人隐私,不必回答)

个人以为Liberal控制联邦政府的太长了,所以才有各种丑闻和无所谓顾忌,建议这次联邦选举时,搞掉Liberal。

One difference between Chinese Canadian and Chinese American:

Chinese Americans as a group support right wing party (Repblican).

Chinese Canadians support left wing (the Liberal). Why is that I have no idea.
 
你怎么能相信一个政客的许诺呢。
咱那位新省长BROKE的PROMICE还少吗,
 
最初由 Xiaomimi 发布


One difference between Chinese Canadian and Chinese American:

Chinese Americans as a group support right wing party (Repblican).

Chinese Canadians support left wing (the Liberal). Why is that I have no idea.

会不会和Chinese Canadian and Chinese American在各自社会里所处的经济地位有关? 另外,我猜一下,美国的驴象间对於移民政策的分歧,不象加拿大的Liberal和其他政党那么大。
 
最初由 spacespace 发布
你怎么能相信一个政客的许诺呢。
咱那位新省长BROKE的PROMICE还少吗,

如果Liberal没有坐得这么大,那位新省长也不会这么轻易和经常BROKE PROMICE。
 
最初由 visitor 发布


会不会和Chinese Canadian and Chinese American在各自社会里所处的经济地位有关? 另外,我猜一下,美国的驴象间对於移民政策的分歧,不象加拿大的Liberal和其他政党那么大。



加拿大的Liberal和其他政党在移民政策上,有很大分岐吗?

以前感觉Liberal是非常支持移民的。
 
最初由 smartrabbit 发布

加拿大的Liberal和其他政党在移民政策上,有很大分岐吗?

以前感觉Liberal是非常支持移民的。

不错,Liberal是非常支持移民的,但其他的政党就没那么好了。不过当你成为移民并有较好收入之后,你就不会喜欢Liberal杀富济贫的税收和福利政策了。
 
最初由 visitor 发布


不错,Liberal是非常支持移民的,但其他的政党就没那么好了。不过当你成为移民并有较好收入之后,你就不会喜欢Liberal杀富济贫的税收和福利政策了。

其实我认为对於外来的移民来说,LIBERAL可能更符合移民的利益。如果右翼保守党上台,外来移民可能会大大减少,移民给家庭团聚移民将会非常困难。

一般的移民家庭,税上的加减,搞不出什么名堂。而在家庭团聚等移民政策上宽松与否,我认为才更符合我们新来者的利益。而NDP又太左了。

我还是支持LIBERAL。
 
最初由 visitor 发布


不错,Liberal是非常支持移民的,但其他的政党就没那么好了。不过当你成为移民并有较好收入之后,你就不会喜欢Liberal杀富济贫的税收和福利政策了。

不错.但有很多人有亲戚要移民,所以怕引起移民政策的波动.他们还是多半会投Liberal的.这就是为什么在Ontario, 联邦自由党的支持率那么高.
自由党在台上的时间的确太长了,政策过于左倾, 而且腐败滋生,那些官员的嘴脸另人生厌,只要拍好了高层的马屁,就会有官当.
 
最初由 smartrabbit 发布


其实我认为对於外来的移民来说,LIBERAL可能更符合移民的利益。如果右翼保守党上台,外来移民可能会大大减少,移民给家庭团聚移民将会非常困难。

一般的移民家庭,税上的加减,搞不出什么名堂。而在家庭团聚等移民政策上宽松与否,我认为才更符合我们新来者的利益。而NDP又太左了。

我还是支持LIBERAL。

50% right. Liberal opens the door wide. But what happened when many immigrants arrived? 过高的税收和过于左倾的政策会使自由经济受到压制,从而使就业市场萎缩.最终受伤害最大的还是新移民.

毕竟,移民和landing不是最终目的.
 
最初由 msft 发布


50% right. Liberal opens the door wide. But what happened when many immigrants arrived? 过高的税收和过于左倾的政策会使自由经济受到压制,从而使就业市场萎缩.最终受伤害最大的还是新移民.

毕竟,移民和landing不是最终目的.

Can anyone here deny that the real estate market in Canada is largely supported by new immigrants? New immigrants(especially from China) contributed much much more than they got from wealfare system. Anyone saw any Chinese apply free food or social welfare?

对於有很好工作的家庭来说,减税也许可以省下几百块。这点钱跟亲情团聚相比根本微不足道。

亲情亲人分离之痛远远超过物质上的损失。

自由党省政府的政策应该不影响移民政策,联邦政府选自由党是对的。

所以理想的是:

联邦政府请加拿大自由党来执政。
省政府请中国共产党来执政。毕竟中国共产党成功地让一部分人先富了起来。

咱先投中共一票。
 
最初由 smartrabbit 发布


Can anyone deny here that the real estate market in Canada is largely supported by new immigrants? New immigrants(especially from China) contributed much much more than they got from wealfare system. Anyone saw any Chinese to apply free food or social welfare?

对於有很好工作的家庭来说,减税也许可以省下几百块。这点钱跟亲情团聚相比根本微不足道。

亲情亲人分离之痛远远超过物质上的损失。

Correct me if I am wrong. For most immigrants who already become citizens (meaning can vote in an election now), their close relatives have already moved to Canada if they choose to do so. Of course, there are exceptions. But in most cases, 4 years is enough for them to sponsor any eligible family members.

If they didn't do that, there must be something more important than 亲情亲人分离之痛.
 
最初由 Xiaomimi 发布


One difference between Chinese Canadian and Chinese American:

Chinese Americans as a group support right wing party (Repblican).

Chinese Canadians support left wing (the Liberal). Why is that I have no idea.

As a minority group, those Chinese Americans who support the right wing are selfish, short-sighted...

As a matter of fact, I donot think, as a whole, Liberal is that bad....at least, in the federal government...
 
最初由 msft 发布


Correct me if I am wrong. For most immigrants who already become citizens (meaning can vote in an election now), their close relatives have already moved to Canada if they choose to do so. Of course, there are exceptions. But in most cases, 4 years is enough for them to sponsor any eligible family members.

If they didn't do that, there must be something more important than 亲情亲人分离之痛.

还有一点是,911后,以及美欧经济缓坡,美加保守势力抬头,社会上大量的舆论开始指向OUTSOURCING,和中印等少数民族抢它们的饭碗。自由党在促进多元文化方面确实做的很好。去年TORONTO闹SARS,出现很多排斥华裔,歧视华裔的事件。当时的省政府(保守党)没有人出来给华人站台。个别保守党阁员甚至在大庭广众下,取笑华人。倒是自由党联邦政府总理去TORONTO CHINA TOWN吃饭。这很难得,很需要勇气。人家给我们面子,给我们撑腰,我们如果还在几百块税钱上计较的话,以后就不要指望哪个政党来支持华人。

这年头,感觉很重要!!!
 
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