精华 [讨论] 家庭暴力

If you know more about China 农村 , you might know my points.

I just made a sample for discussion. If you do not like it, jut ignore it. All things depend upon your feelings.

One more thing, your words are too strong for this discussion. Educated poeple might use the words in friendly talk, but they would not write them down for 严肃话题. Hope that I could make my point more clear on this topic.
 
Although highly unconventional, I respect your style of communication, and as such I responded with a series of questions that might counterargue what your "persona" stands for.

If "smart-ass" is what you were feeling uneasy about, well get over it. :) "smart-ass" can be interpreted in different ways, if you don't like it, as you so eloquently put, just ignore it, because after all, all things depend upon your feelings. ;) In my mind, "smartass" is just like the word "geek", in terms of degree of harm/praise, so no offence was ever intended.

I wish you'd just say what you want to say out straight. Are we OK? Let's get back to the topic.
 
Maybe we should establish some basics:

1. Do we agree that beating up your wife or husband or children is simply WRONG? No maybes, buts or what ifs, it's just plein wrong.

2. Do we agree that violence can not solve problems? At least in a civilized society.

If we can agree on these 2 questions, maybe we could continue this discussion, otherwise, we don't live in the same world, and there is really no need to talk about this anymore.
 
最初由 渐渐 发布
Maybe we should establish some basics:

1. Do we agree that beating up your wife or husband or children is simply WRONG? No maybes, buts or what ifs, it's just plein wrong.

2. Do we agree that violence can not solve problems? At least in a civilized society.

If we can agree on these 2 questions, maybe we could continue this discussion, otherwise, we don't live in the same world, and there is really no need to talk about this anymore.

Yes and yes.

On the other hand, I would also like to see discusstion about WHY "家庭暴力" happens?
 
These are some examples of physical abuse:

hitting
pinching
slapping
pushing
punching
kicking
burning
shooting
stabbing or cutting

Other forms of abuse are not crimes, but they are still abuse. Some examples are:

humiliating you
insulting you
ignoring you
screaming at you
calling you names
telling what you can do, where you can go, who your friends can be
refusing to let you have any money


你的辩论上一直在明显的错误引导别人。。你却忽略了这些法律的制定不是但为女人的。。如果您在家里或单位对男人这样也是属于abuse, 你经常 humiliating me, insulting me, telling what I can do on this website!..are u abuse me??

不是我想和你争论, 我说了你一开始就是把男人放在你的对立面, 当成阶级敌人在批斗。。没矛盾也会出矛盾, 本来有矛盾的也会更加恶化。。。

这些都不是解决家庭问题的根本。。真的应该少点自私。。与人为善, 具有爱心。。付起家庭责任才是应该做的。。虽然你可能会说我在说大道理, 其实并不然。。我们真的应该这么做。。

一个离婚家庭本身就是个失败的人生, 无法经营自己的家庭就象经营一个自己辛苦创业的公司破了产一样, 成功的家庭就象营利的企业。。不但各种关系处理的好, 更是蒸蒸日上。。还是老话说的好。。家和万事兴<<< 在这点上双方都有着他们的牺牲和责任
 
毛主席教导我们,凡是敌人反对的我们就要坚决用护,凡是敌人用护的我们就要坚决反对。

反!
 
最初由 渐渐 发布
Maybe we should establish some basics:

1. Do we agree that beating up your wife or husband or children is simply WRONG? No maybes, buts or what ifs, it's just plein wrong.

2. Do we agree that violence can not solve problems? At least in a civilized society.

If we can agree on these 2 questions, maybe we could continue this discussion, otherwise, we don't live in the same world, and there is really no need to talk about this anymore.

憋了一天,总算可以用家中的计算机敲中文了。

你听说过:天上下雨地下流,小两口打架不记仇吗?中国电影里用过的。

先把这“小两口打架”限定在你踢我一脚我打你一拳的范围里。这个“打架”可能会造成一方身体表层伤--青紫了。 这属于你的beating up 和 family violence 吗?
 
最初由 Wanderer 发布


憋了一天,总算可以用家中的计算机敲中文了。

你听说过:天上下雨地下流,小两口打架不记仇吗?中国电影里用过的。

先把这“小两口打架”限定在你踢我一脚我打你一拳的范围里。这个“打架”可能会造成一方身体表层伤--青紫了。 这属于你的beating up 和 family violence 吗?
对於有这种疑惑的人来说,非常不幸,对不起,在加拿大而言,打架就是打架就是beating up 和family violence。语言威胁都算,更别说青紫了。
否则,你准备把打成什么程度的定为可以用法律保护的?:rolleyes: 这个口就不可以开:o
 
最初由 丫丫 发布

对於有这种疑惑的人来说,非常不幸,对不起,在加拿大而言,打架就是打架就是beating up 和family violence。语言威胁都算,更别说青紫了。
否则,你准备把打成什么程度的定为可以用法律保护的?:rolleyes: 这个口就不可以开:o

我前面的几个贴子里一直在强调:家庭暴力的定义,地域,和文化背景。在中国,小两口打架可能不是什么大问题,特别是当打架的频度不高时。两个不同生活背景的人开始厮守在一起,可能会有很多磕磕碰碰。如果双方都努力,磕磕碰碰会减少,家庭和睦会到来。

移民加拿大后,每个人都要调整自己去适应加拿大的环境。如果在中国不是什么大不了的事而到加拿大后立刻想到要用法律手段解决,特别是当不了解法律保护的结果时,移民们很可能在用法律手段寻求他们最不希望看到的结果。

因此,当我们谈法律保护的时候,我们是否也应该想到:我们是否能接受其保护的结果?如果我们不喜欢这个结果,我们是不是在用法律手段给自己找不痛快?
 
最初由 Wanderer 发布


我前面的几个贴子里一直在强调:家庭暴力的定义,地域,和文化背景。在中国,小两口打架可能不是什么大问题,特别是当打架的频度不高时。两个不同生活背景的人开始厮守在一起,可能会有很多磕磕碰碰。如果双方都努力,磕磕碰碰会减少,家庭和睦会到来。

移民加拿大后,每个人都要调整自己去适应加拿大的环境。如果在中国不是什么大不了的事而到加拿大后立刻想到要用法律手段解决,特别是当不了解法律保护的结果时,移民们很可能在用法律手段寻求他们最不希望看到的结果。

因此,当我们谈法律保护的时候,我们是否也应该想到:我们是否能接受其保护的结果?如果我们不喜欢这个结果,我们是不是在用法律手段给自己找不痛快?
如果报警的是别人呢?:blink:不要给动手找理由。打人就是不对的。
 
再提一个与此话题有关的引子:人活脸,树活皮。是男人就要维护自己的面子。我不知道加拿大本地人是否有类似的说法或传统。我相信:中国有。男子汉大丈夫如果没能力处理好自己家里的事,并被妻子告上法庭,他的面子何在?无颜见家乡人了,离婚是唯一出路。他的妻子是为此送丈夫上法庭的吗?
 
打人很有面子吧?多男人?多有颜面?打人的还有理了。
我怎么还听过,没本事的才打老婆?--------打老婆的是狗熊?
打人就解决问题吗?

谁结婚是为了离婚的?
可是谁结婚是为了挨打得?:blink:
谁又维持婚姻是为了以后有得挨打得?:smokin:
 
是不是打人都不对,不论男方女方?我很好奇,假如是妻子打了丈夫,男方报案,是不是一样要把女方抓起来呢?
 
:blowzy:

不是说加拿大警察向着女人吗?所以才有此一问。
 
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