自由党下台了,要大选了,大家想选谁?

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Seems like you have no problem with the total quoto of immigrants. What you are strongly against here is that too many asians immigrate to Canada (Actually total visible minority is still less than 20% in total population).
So why don't you tell us a BETTER scoring system which can block more asians and take in more whites, blacks, latinos, etc...as long as it is fair, objective?
 
说来说去,我怎么觉得还是牛克思主义和地球联盟党EUP比较好。可惜这个党还只是个设想,可以站着说话不腰疼,哈。虽然不算低收入,可减税这种招数,对牛克思主义者不灵。因为这招术太古老,当牛克思主义者做梦当关宁铁骑铁甲骑兵冲锋陷阵那时代,李自成就用过类似的招数。那时候叫做"迎闯王,迎了闯王不纳粮”。

用比烂的招数,对牛克思主义者也不灵,因为这是体制问题,那时候是皇帝坐久了都要烂的,所以还是体制问题,从古代起就不是换皇帝能解决问题的。那时候换皇帝,玩的是真刀真枪,据说比现在这个带劲。
 
最初由 quebecois 发布
有没有党多给正在读书的人或者失业但并不失技的人多点经济补助的?最讨厌拿着纳税人的钱去救济那些整天只会抽烟喝酒不干事的懒人!

NDP gives money to both of them. You can't want just one of them.
 
Why? Because Ralf Klain has always had the oil money to pay for everything. But, are we talking about provincial politics or Federal politics? There is a big difference between the two. Although the governing party of Alberta is a conservative party, this party is not exactly the same as the Federal conservative party currently lead by Harper. Although Albertan economy has been good, larely due to its oil and gas, the Mike Harris conservative party in Ontario didn't do nearly as well. So, you can not draw conclusions on Federal politics and federal parties based on provincial politics.

Also, based on the views you have expressed on the issue of immigration, I now understand why you support the Reform/Canadian Alliance/Conservative party.

最初由 lifeisfun 发布


But then why conservative party has been in power in Alberta for more than 10 years and they also send the most conservative MPs to Ottawa.
Calgary was just an oil city ten years ago and now due to the good policy, it has many hi-tech companies as well.
 
For the sake of humor, let me try to use your simple method of analysis and ask you this. Why has the Libral party been in power in Canada for more than 10 years? Canada was near bancrupcy under the conservative party before the Librals came in power. Now, after 10 years, Canadians are enjoying one of the best economies in the world. Ottawa has the most hi-tech companies in Canada. Does this kind of reasoning fit your frame of mind?
最初由 lifeisfun 发布


But then why conservative party has been in power in Alberta for more than 10 years and they also send the most conservative MPs to Ottawa.
Calgary was just an oil city ten years ago and now due to the good policy, it has many hi-tech companies as well.
 
first Liberal, second NDP. these are good choices for Chinese.

first Liberal, second NDP. these are good choices for Chinese.
 
最初由 haoren1 发布
For the sake of humor, let me try to use your simple method of analysis and ask you this. Why has the Libral party been in power in Canada for more than 10 years? Canada was near bancrupcy under the conservative party before the Librals came in power. Now, after 10 years, Canadians are enjoying one of the best economies in the world. Ottawa has the most hi-tech companies in Canada. Does this kind of reasoning fit your frame of mind?

Good point. You'd better brief those "conservatives" in CFC the history of the introduction of GST. Give them some facts, cause reasoning doesn't work sometimes.
 
最初由 smiling 发布

这个关于“传统价值观“的理解我觉得是一厢情愿的,Lowell Green有一次说“Canada lost it's tradition, ... immigration from traditional country..."。我们中国人再注重家庭,也不符合人家定义的传统价值观。

从个人利益来说,我也许该投保守党(低税收),但是从我少数族裔的身份,我绝不投保守党。

Once Lowell Green said, it's unfair for him to pay tax for school bus, students' parents should pay for it, it's called "pay as you go". A colleague of mine who's a lesbien, was so excited that she shouted on my face:"It is not fair! I don't have kids, I shouldn't pay tax for your kid's school bus." Here's how I shut her up:"when you retire, it's my kid who's going to pay tax for your pension. You'll suck his blood for about 20 years, what a sweat deal for you." Mr. Green wants to sell his traditional family value? I'd say, he's a brave man, cause he never hide his stupidness.

Don't let them take the right of definition from us for granted.
 
最初由 胡说之 发布


Once Lowell Green said, it's unfair for him to pay tax for school bus, students' parents should pay for it, it's called "pay as you go". A colleague of mine who's a lesbien, was so excited that she shouted on my face:"It is not fair! I don't have kids, I shouldn't pay tax for your kid's school bus." Here's how I shut her up:"when you retire, it's my kid who's going to pay tax for your pension. You'll suck his blood for about 20 years, what a sweat deal for you." Mr. Green wants to sell his traditional family value? I'd say, he's a brave man, cause he never hide his stupidness.

Don't let them take the right of definition from us for granted.

hahaha...Really like your counter argument!
 
最初由 chieftain 发布


减税基本是针对中产阶级,低收入阶层本来交税就少,对於低收入阶层来说,最好是对中产阶级抽高税,这样低收入阶层就可以在政府浪费之后剩余的钱里,享受更多的社会福利。NDP就是想这么干。

对於比较勤奋的华人,高税收的福利体制,基本是灾难。

I don't agree with you to say Chinese are in the higher income bracket. Took me a long time to realize what's rich in Canada, and all the Chinese I know are not rich. You can work at High tech company and have your stock options, you are not rich. the CEO who got paid 5 million dollars a year and 20 million dollars in Stock options is rich.

80% of the wealth are controled by 5% of the people. It's important to keep in mind, more tax have to be paid by the rich. Tax the poor will not solve the problem.

As for now with the tax loop holes, many of the top 5% are paying very little or no tax at all. Many of the firms are getting grants from the governement and paying no tax.

If you don't believe me, you can google it. You will find out the people who are paying Tax are the poor Chinese and so call middle incomer!
 
最初由 lifeisfun 发布



You were asking if Asian immigrants in total has passed half of total immigrants? Not Chinese itself. According to your data, Chinese plus Indian already takes 27%. So you should figure out how much if counting Pakistan, Philippine, Vietnamin etc.
1。你说温哥华多伦多象上海香港,所以给你看看2002年22万移民中,只有3万多中国人,你还要什么BALANCE?
2。亚洲移民[Chinese + Indian + Pakistan + Philippine, Vietnamin +。。。]是否超过50%,你可以figure out ?
3。欧洲人美国人不要签证呆在加拿大有多少,你知道吗?他们有的还是‘季节工’,你清楚吗?
 
Mr. Harper anounces GST sut commitment. If this will push Liberal to cut tax too, that would be great. Then we can vote Liberal.
 
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最初由 abner 发布


你以为保守党就不加税啊

the 7% gst was added in conservative days bcs of deficit
 
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