Assessment Review Board Hearing

[Timothy's]

I guess I am wrong about the 12%. It is about 2004 to 2005. But at some part of the city, like kanata, the average resale price raised about 10% at Jan 2006 comparing to Jan 2005.

http://dsp-psd.pwgsc.gc.ca/Collection/CMHC/HN/NH12-32E/NH12-32-2006-1E.pdf

I believe this is the data you should be looking into. It is very useful.


The MPAC price should be the market value of your house at Jan 2005. I were wrong at my last post. I put Jan 2006 on it.

If you bought your house new,you can find your builder's price at Jan 2005. This should be the strongest prove of your case.

 

[aiya]

最好prepare你邻居最近买房的资料,和你房子越接近越有说服力,若别人的房子和你面积差不多,专修比你好,价格比你便宜,你win的机会就很大.这个评估价本来就不合理,同样的房子两个买家出的价会差很员,卖不到好价的就会吃亏,多交地税.我看到市场上好多房子开价就说低与评估价1.5万到2万,可想评估的不精确.

 

[lilyofvalley2]

Thanks. They use estimated data to do other estimations.I can't tell how accurate they are.

 

[dingw]

MPAC process is not only in a mess, a credibility crisis, but also plainly wrong most of the times.

They have been investigated by the ombudsman and concluded they are "guilty"!!! You can find the obmudsman report on the internet I believe. If not, i have some related newspaper print that i can fax to you. It will help you to prepare your arguments in front of the board. You will win!

 

[lilyofvalley2]

在hearing以前，MPAC声称不会给我们降一分钱。昨天hearing, 赢了. Board 决定assessment value 回到我们的购买价.

 

[new2ottawa]

I knew you will win.

 

[0717]

最初由 lilyofvalley2 发布
在hearing以前，MPAC声称不会给我们降一分钱。昨天hearing, 赢了. Board 决定assessment value 回到我们的购买价.

congrats!
could you share your board appearance experience (procedure, what were presented and argued etc.)? thanks.

 

[lilyofvalley2]

最初由 0717 发布


congrats!
could you share your board appearance experience (procedure, what were presented and argued etc.)? thanks.

要准备一式3份资料带去。我把前因后果讲讲，供大家参考，特别是和我家情况相同的。我家是从builder那儿买的新房，assessment date 和我家的购买日期在一个月里。MPAC评估的结果比我们买的价格(包含GST)高了近30K。
我们的赢的主要理由是： assessment date was the same month and year as our purchasing date. We bought our property from a competition market. There was no price regulation and price ceiling. In a free market, the price presents the true market value, especially the seller is a big company with strong market research ability.
我们同时去拍了MPAC report 上每一个房子拿来给我家property比较的照片。制成表格，指出每一家的advantages. 我们同时也指出一家离我家50m远的地方的正在卖房子和我家一样，但是list价格却低很多。最后我们要求assessment 回到我们买的价格(包含GST)。 当时MPAC的人不服气，要求board的人看其它properties的照片，board的人说我不看其它的照片，他们从市场上同一时间买的价格怎么就不是市场价？为什么要用别的properties 来估计？除非你有证据他们和builder有personal relationship我们才会review. 我们这种情况很简单。大家如果是买旧房的话，能够证明房子在市场上listing的时间够长得话也行，其它更复杂的case大家再找找别的。注意不要迟到了。

 

[Timothy's]

最初由 lilyofvalley2 发布

要准备一式3份资料带去。我把前因后果讲讲，供大家参考，特别是和我家情况相同的。我家是从builder那儿买的新房，assessment date 和我家的购买日期在一个月里。MPAC评估的结果比我们买的价格(包含GST)高了近30K。
我们的赢的主要理由是： assessment date was the same month and year as our purchasing date. We bought our property from a competition market. There was no price regulation and price ceiling. In a free market, the price presents the true market value, especially the seller is a big company with strong market research ability.
我们同时去拍了MPAC report 上每一个房子拿来给我家property比较的照片。制成表格，指出每一家的advantages. 我们同时也指出一家离我家50m远的地方的正在卖房子和我家一样，但是list价格却低很多。最后我们要求assessment 回到我们买的价格(包含GST)。 当时MPAC的人不服气，要求board的人看其它properties的照片，board的人说我不看其它的照片，他们从市场上同一时间买的价格怎么就不是市场价？为什么要用别的properties 来估计？除非你有证据他们和builder有personal relationship我们才会review. 我们这种情况很简单。大家如果是买旧房的话，能够证明房子在市场上listing的时间够长得话也行，其它更复杂的case大家再找找别的。注意不要迟到了。

Great job!

 

[huagang]

Ontario puts freeze on property tax assessments:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2006/06/29/mpac-freeze.html

 

[aiya]

same as my case, assessment came only after we bought the house half month. and it is 70k more than we bought, and even the evaluator from city government told me that it is wrong," the assessment should'nt be higher than the purchase price just within a month". we have strong case too,but it is still waiting. congrulations!

最初由 lilyofvalley2 发布

要准备一式3份资料带去。我把前因后果讲讲，供大家参考，特别是和我家情况相同的。我家是从builder那儿买的新房，assessment date 和我家的购买日期在一个月里。MPAC评估的结果比我们买的价格(包含GST)高了近30K。
我们的赢的主要理由是： assessment date was the same month and year as our purchasing date. We bought our property from a competition market. There was no price regulation and price ceiling. In a free market, the price presents the true market value, especially the seller is a big company with strong market research ability.
我们同时去拍了MPAC report 上每一个房子拿来给我家property比较的照片。制成表格，指出每一家的advantages. 我们同时也指出一家离我家50m远的地方的正在卖房子和我家一样，但是list价格却低很多。最后我们要求assessment 回到我们买的价格(包含GST)。 当时MPAC的人不服气，要求board的人看其它properties的照片，board的人说我不看其它的照片，他们从市场上同一时间买的价格怎么就不是市场价？为什么要用别的properties 来估计？除非你有证据他们和builder有personal relationship我们才会review. 我们这种情况很简单。大家如果是买旧房的话，能够证明房子在市场上listing的时间够长得话也行，其它更复杂的case大家再找找别的。注意不要迟到了。

 

[shusheng]

http://www.comefromchina.com/newbbs...ew#%B9%D9%CB%BE%B2%BB%B4%F2%B0%D7%B2%BB%B4%F2

看看老运动员是怎样打官司的。

 

[cy25915]

为啥不是不含税的价格？assessment value 应该是税前价？

最初由 lilyofvalley2 发布

要准备一式3份资料带去。我把前因后果讲讲，供大家参考，特别是和我家情况相同的。我家是从builder那儿买的新房，assessment date 和我家的购买日期在一个月里。MPAC评估的结果比我们买的价格(包含GST)高了近30K。
我们的赢的主要理由是： assessment date was the same month and year as our purchasing date. We bought our property from a competition market. There was no price regulation and price ceiling. In a free market, the price presents the true market value, especially the seller is a big company with strong market research ability.
我们同时去拍了MPAC report 上每一个房子拿来给我家property比较的照片。制成表格，指出每一家的advantages. 我们同时也指出一家离我家50m远的地方的正在卖房子和我家一样，但是list价格却低很多。最后我们要求assessment 回到我们买的价格(包含GST)。 当时MPAC的人不服气，要求board的人看其它properties的照片，board的人说我不看其它的照片，他们从市场上同一时间买的价格怎么就不是市场价？为什么要用别的properties 来估计？除非你有证据他们和builder有personal relationship我们才会review. 我们这种情况很简单。大家如果是买旧房的话，能够证明房子在市场上listing的时间够长得话也行，其它更复杂的case大家再找找别的。注意不要迟到了。