精华 如何到美国买新车回加拿大?

[CCT]

Sorry more questions inccurred by your answers

(1) Why do I need a friend or relative to buy a car, as it is still under my name?
(2) Even in my name, as it is registered in States, will it be still considered as pre-registered one?

(1) When you buy a car from a dealer, the address you provide to the dealer has to match that on your driver's license. Do you have a US driver's license of yourself?
(2) As long as a car is registered, it is considered as a pre-registered vehicle no mater under whose name. It has no MCO any more and only has a "Title", sinece the original MCO has to be handed in to the MTO office where the vehicle is first registered. You can import a car under your name to yourself.

 

[ChinaFarmer]

(1) When you buy a car from a dealer, the address you provide to the dealer has to match that on your driver's license. Do you have a US driver's license of yourself?
(2) As long as a car is registered, it is considered as a pre-registered vehicle no mater under whose name. It has no MCO any more and only has a "Title", sinece the original MCO has to be handed in to the MTO office where the vehicle is first registered. You can import a car under your name to yourself.

Thanks for your explanation!

OK. I don't have a US driver's licsense. So the title is under my friend/relative's name. Then there seems to be an extra step to transfer the title, which are missing in the five steps you outlined in your previous reponse. Could you clarify?

On the other hand, it may not be that bad to ask local people to shop a car for us. They can bargain for the price and normally can cut between $1000-$2000 from MSRP. This may save the extra tax we have to pay for the price difference between two countries. I bet that US car dealer won't give Canadian such option.

 

[dell]

Thanks for your explanation!

OK. I don't have a US driver's licsense. So the title is under my friend/relative's name. Then there seems to be an extra step to transfer the title, which are missing in the five steps you outlined in your previous reponse. Could you clarify?

On the other hand, it may not be that bad to ask local people to shop a car for us. They can bargain for the price and normally can cut between $1000-$2000 from MSRP. This may save the extra tax we have to pay for the price difference between two countries. I bet that US car dealer won't give Canadian such option.

In US, people usually bargain for the price from the invoice price directly, not the MSRP.

 

[CCT]

Thanks for your explanation!

OK. I don't have a US driver's licsense. So the title is under my friend/relative's name. Then there seems to be an extra step to transfer the title, which are missing in the five steps you outlined in your previous reponse. Could you clarify?

On the other hand, it may not be that bad to ask local people to shop a car for us. They can bargain for the price and normally can cut between $1000-$2000 from MSRP. This may save the extra tax we have to pay for the price difference between two countries. I bet that US car dealer won't give Canadian such option.

I mentioned this (The Title) in my first respose to you. It is the third item I listed. That it, if a vehicle is pre-registered, you need to obtained a certified copy of "The Title" from a MTO office of the state you purchase from. Not just your friend/relative transfers "The Title" to you as here in Canada. If you go through Alexandria Bay from US to Canada, you have to drop the original (no copy or no Fax) "The Title" to the us export control office (at Alexandria Bay) 72 working hours before you can export and drive the car to Canada. But, you can fax "The Title" 72 working hours before you go through Queenston-Lewiston Bridge at Buffalo.

Based on my experience, I got the same discounts as US people: (us)$1250 cash rebate+(us)$300 internet discount. So, my final price is $1550 off from the sale price(invoice) and more than $3000 off from the MSRP. The only thing I pay more than the US customers is the $28 temporary plate.

 

[leizh]

请问各位去美国买车用的是哪家保险公司？我因为两年前有过TRAFFIC TICKET，保费涨得太多。有的保险公司不提供美国的保险。大家有么好的保险公司推荐？

 

[greenhand]

大家有没有注意到, 即使是同样的MODEL, 美国和加拿大的配置还是不一样的? (比如 TOYOTA-SIENNA LE, 如果要加到和加拿大一样的配置, 价钱差的就不多了).

 

[CCT]

大家有没有注意到, 即使是同样的MODEL, 美国和加拿大的配置还是不一样的? (比如 TOYOTA-SIENNA LE, 如果要加到和加拿大一样的配置, 价钱差的就不多了).

我比较过SIENNA CE, 两边的配置差不多. 我的SIENNA CE和加拿大的同样MODEL比, 只相差DAY RUNING LIGHTS (DRL) 和 ENGINE IMOBILIZER. 但我的车配置了Towing (3500lb) Prep Package (includes:Heavy Duty Radiator & Fan, 150 Amp Alt & Power Steering Oil Cooler). 在加拿大要配置这个要~$1000. DRL 可以自己ACTIVATE. 比较两边的配置时, 要看具体的车. 例如, 在TOYOTA.COM LISTED SPEC&FEATURES 上, 美国的SIENNA CE 没有CRUISE CONTROL, ROOF RACK, TOWING PRE PACKAGE. 但我的车都配置了这些.

 

[CCT]

请问各位去美国买车用的是哪家保险公司？我因为两年前有过TRAFFIC TICKET，保费涨得太多。有的保险公司不提供美国的保险。大家有么好的保险公司推荐？

Try Meloche Monnex at 1-800-268-8955. I only have to pay ~$350 per year more by adding my new US Toyota-SIENNA CE van to my old policy. But, you have to provide "Bill of Sales" and "Car History" (can obtain from CarFax or CarProof) before you can have your us vehicle insured.

 

[ChinaFarmer]

I mentioned this (The Title) in my first respose to you. It is the third item I listed. That it, if a vehicle is pre-registered, you need to obtained a certified copy of "The Title" from a MTO office of the state you purchase from. Not just your friend/relative transfers "The Title" to you as here in Canada. If you go through Alexandria Bay from US to Canada, you have to drop the original (no copy or no Fax) "The Title" to the us export control office (at Alexandria Bay) 72 working hours before you can export and drive the car to Canada. But, you can fax "The Title" 72 working hours before you go through Queenston-Lewiston Bridge at Buffalo.

Based on my experience, I got the same discounts as US people: (us)$1250 cash rebate+(us)$300 internet discount. So, my final price is $1550 off from the sale price(invoice) and more than $3000 off from the MSRP. The only thing I pay more than the US customers is the $28 temporary plate.

Thanks a lot for your clarification!

There is a title transferring between my friend/relative and me. I am wondering what impact will to my friend/relative for this transition. Any liability of sale tax for them.

BTW, congratualtion to your bargain deal. You got the job nice done!

 

[小傻]

大家有没有注意到, 即使是同样的MODEL, 美国和加拿大的配置还是不一样的? (比如 TOYOTA-SIENNA LE, 如果要加到和加拿大一样的配置, 价钱差的就不多了).

加拿大的 dealer 不会就此罢休吧？是不是随加元升高，进口车会在近期降价呢？

期待回复。。。

 

[CCT]

Thanks a lot for your clarification!

There is a title transferring between my friend/relative and me. I am wondering what impact will to my friend/relative for this transition. Any liability of sale tax for them.

BTW, congratualtion to your bargain deal. You got the job nice done!

I don't have actual experiece in importing a pre-registered vehicles from us. I think you should consul people who have the experiece for more accurate inf. As I know, the title transfer is done in the US MTO office when you ask them to issue you an official copy of "the tiltle". I don't think there are any impacts and tax liability on your friend/relative. I heard some people imported pre-registred cars from US and but I did not hear them telling these issues.

 

[ChinaFarmer]

I don't have actual experiece in importing a pre-registered vehicles from us. I think you should consul people who have the experiece for more accurate inf. As I know, the title transfer is done in the US MTO office when you ask them to issue you an official copy of "the tiltle". I don't think there are any impacts and tax liability on your friend/relative. I heard some people imported pre-registred cars from US and but I did not hear them telling these issues.

OK. Thanks!

If I can not find the Toyota dealer, then I am considering other dealer to save the trouble.

 

[Xiaoye]

Try Meloche Monnex at 1-800-268-8955. I only have to pay ~$350 per year more by adding my new US Toyota-SIENNA CE van to my old policy. But, you have to provide "Bill of Sales" and "Car History" (can obtain from CarFax or CarProof) before you can have your us vehicle insured.

非常感谢你的帖子. 有了你的指点迷津, 我增加了去美国买车的信心.

我也想买TOYOTA SIENNA, 问了许多DEALER, 都说不卖给CANADIAN, 我就放弃了. 以为全美国就是这个规定. 其实, 这只是个别的企业行为, 行业的内部约定.

有几个问题请教.

1. 楼上绿洲的帖子说, The title (也叫Manufacturer's Statement of Origin), 那末Manufacturer's Statement of Origin 和 Manufacturer's certificate of Origin有什么区别?
DEALER 在你要求后, 多长时间拿到这个Manufacturer's certificate of Origin?

2. 我问很多美国DEALER, 他们多数都不知道什么是RECALL CLEARENCE LETTER. 所以, 我得告诉DEALER如何得到它. 另外, 拿到它要等多长时间? 请赐教. 给RIV 打电话, 她们说没RECALL CLEARENCE LETTER 有VEHICLE INQUIRY REPORT　也可以.

3. 新车没有在美国注过册, 一定要出关时向US CUSTOM申报吗? 还是CANADA CUSTOM 需要US CUSTOM 的印章? 我的一个朋友, 几年前从美国移居CANADA. 据他回忆, 他只去了CANADA CUSTOM 申报他的在美国注册的车. 我们买其他商品, 也只是向CANADA CUSTOM 报关, 而不需要向US CUSTOM 报关的.

4. 关于临时保险, 是在CANADA 的保险公司申请, 还是在US 的保险公司申请?

谢谢.

 

[Xiaoye]

加拿大的 dealer 不会就此罢休吧？是不是随加元升高，进口车会在近期降价呢？

期待回复。。。

CANADIAN TOYOTA DEALER 太黑了. 美元的贬值, 使他们从美国进口汽车的成本大大降低, 可他们一直垄断着价格, 不肯降. 2008 的SIENNA 比2007的还要贵$500 多. 最近, CANADIAN TOYOTA DEALER的负责人还说: 我们的价格是合理的, 是有竞争力. 其背后, 却乞求美国老大哥的保护. 这种行业内部的保护是与北美贸易协定相饽的.

 

[CCT]

非常感谢你的帖子. 有了你的指点迷津, 我增加了去美国买车的信心.

我也想买TOYOTA SIENNA, 问了许多DEALER, 都说不卖给CANADIAN, 我就放弃了. 以为全美国就是这个规定. 其实, 这只是个别的企业行为, 行业的内部约定.

有几个问题请教.

1. 楼上绿洲的帖子说, The title (也叫Manufacturer's Statement of Origin), 那末Manufacturer's Statement of Origin 和 Manufacturer's certificate of Origin有什么区别?
DEALER 在你要求后, 多长时间拿到这个Manufacturer's certificate of Origin?

2. 我问很多美国DEALER, 他们多数都不知道什么是RECALL CLEARENCE LETTER. 所以, 我得告诉DEALER如何得到它. 另外, 拿到它要等多长时间? 请赐教. 给RIV 打电话, 她们说没RECALL CLEARENCE LETTER 有VEHICLE INQUIRY REPORT　也可以.

3. 新车没有在美国注过册, 一定要出关时向US CUSTOM申报吗? 还是CANADA CUSTOM 需要US CUSTOM 的印章? 我的一个朋友, 几年前从美国移居CANADA. 据他回忆, 他只去了CANADA CUSTOM 申报他的在美国注册的车. 我们买其他商品, 也只是向CANADA CUSTOM 报关, 而不需要向US CUSTOM 报关的.

4. 关于临时保险, 是在CANADA 的保险公司申请, 还是在US 的保险公司申请?

谢谢.

1. Only Pre-registered vehicles have a "TITLE". When a vehicle is registerd for the first time, its original "Manufacturer's Certificate(or Statement) of Origin" (MCO or MSO) will be confiscated and it (the vehicle) will only have a "TITLE" and no MCO any more from now on. Only new (never registered) vehicles have a MCO (or MSO). Some manufacturers call MCO while others may call MSO. MCO and MSO are the same thing. TOYOTA call it MCO. It took me about 2 weeks to obtain the MCO because my van was transfered from another dealership.

2. For TOYOTA vehicles, Recall Clearance Letter can be obtained from TOYOTA manufacturer at 1-800-331-4331. I think it is similar for other manufacturers.

3. If you don't claim your vehicle for exportation at the US border, the vehicle is not legally exported. You may have troubles when you drive it back to US some time later. The Canadian Border Officers usually don't care if you have claimed it for exportation at The US Border and will let you import the vehicle as long as it meets with Canadian importation requirements. So, my advise is that please claim your vehicle for exportation at the US Border. It does not cost you anything and it is a very easy process!

4. Call your current insurance company to add your will-be-imported US vehicle to your current policy. But do this at the last stage when you are for sure you will buy the car. Otherwise, you may have a penalty to cancell the insurance. My insurance company did not give me a temporary insurance. So, I had to take a risk for a penalty if I could not import my van for some reasons. I don't think any US companies will offer a temporary insurance with an aceptatble premium.