精华 如何到美国买新车回加拿大?

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我19天前到美国进口了一辆新的2007 TOYOTA-SIENNA (CE) 回加拿大. 包括ALL COSTS , TOTAL SAVING是 $9513 (加元).

我的经历和CVICTOR回复本贴的”美国买车记”大体一样. 只是我走KINGSTON 对面的Alexandria Bay 出关和进关. 在Alexandria Bay, 如是新车而且有MCO (MANUFACTURER’S CERTIFICATE OF ORIGIN) (原件)和DEALER 签发的BILL OF SALES (原件, 上面有你的NAME & CANADIAN ADDRESS),就可以顺利出关. 而且不须要提前72小时发这些文件给Alexandria Bay. 72小时的规定只是对已经在美国注册的车(只有TITLE, 没有MCO). 进加拿大海关时交GST 和$100 的AC FEE, 然后加拿大海关人员会给你他填好的FORM1 和 GST的收据. RIV 费自己回来后在网上交,并将FORM1和CLEARANCE RECALL LETTER的SCANNED COPIES 用E-MAIL送到RIV OFFICE. 两天后打电话到RIV OFFICE CONFIRM 后, 他们会马上E-MAIL “FEDERAL INSPECTION FORM” (FORM2) 给你. 打印出FORM2并带上FORM1 (原件:WHITE & YELLOW COPIES)和CLEARANCE RECALL LETTER(原件)到CANADIAN TIRE做检查. 检查通过后, 他们会FAX到RIV OFFICE并在FORM1&2 上盖章后还给你原件. 带上这些表和MCO(原件)及BILL OF SALES (原件)和GST的收据到MTO OFFICE 注册上牌照.

我的体会是, 如买TOYOTA车, 最难的是要找到愿意卖车给你的DEALER. TOYOTA车厂不容许其美国DEALER卖车给加拿大人. 和加拿大接壤的州的DEALER很清楚这一规定. 可能在南部的州的一些DEALER不知道这一规定.但到最后还是要知道的. 这就要靠你每一步的策略把他们套牢.我打了电话给很多离OTTAWA ~1000KM 的DEALER, 最后找到一个DEALER同意卖给我. 等我要MCO时, 他们发觉不能卖新车给加拿大人. 但这时已经为时晚了,因为我已经把钱WIRE他们的账上. 他们最后告诉我, 将再不会卖新车到加拿大, 并要我替他们保密.

非常感谢您的信息。请问您能告知KINGSTON 和对面的Alexandria Bay 出关和进关办公室的具体地址和联系方法吗?
 
非常感谢您的信息。请问您能告知KINGSTON 和对面的Alexandria Bay 出关和进关办公室的具体地址和联系方法吗?

US Alexandria Bay: Vehicle Exports, 0800-1600 hrs. Mon.-Fri., call 315-482-2261.

I don't have Canada side contact inf. You don't need to contact them. They open 24/7.
 
US Alexandria Bay: Vehicle Exports, 0800-1600 hrs. Mon.-Fri., call 315-482-2261.

I don't have Canada side contact inf. You don't need to contact them. They open 24/7.

第一页不是说丰田不让卖给加拿大吗?你居然可以买到? 可以在加拿大保修的吗?
 
第一页不是说丰田不让卖给加拿大吗?你居然可以买到? 可以在加拿大保修的吗?

Warranty is valid in Canada, same as in US.

As I explained before, Just keep trying until you find one and then hook it using your strategies. I called more than 50 dealers (in south states) before I found my dealer. I heard some Canadians bought TOYOTA cars in Texas.
 
Warranty is valid in Canada, same as in US.

As I explained before, Just keep trying until you find one and then hook it using your strategies. I called more than 50 dealers (in south states) before I found my dealer. I heard some Canadians bought TOYOTA cars in Texas.

50 dealers.....Texas...Wow.........
 
有些问题想问一下大家,我想买LEXUS,不知道是不是和丰田一样不卖给我呢?要是不卖给我,可不可以让我的朋友先买了,然后在转手给我.这样的话就算是二手车了吗!是不是价钱也可以相应的自己往下调一些.过关的手续是不是一样,还有不知道保修会不会跟到加拿大.谢谢
 
1. Only Pre-registered vehicles have a "TITLE". When a vehicle is registerd for the first time, its original "Manufacturer's Certificate(or Statement) of Origin" (MCO or MSO) will be confiscated and it (the vehicle) will only have a "TITLE" and no MCO any more from now on. Only new (never registered) vehicles have a MCO (or MSO). Some manufacturers call MCO while others may call MSO. MCO and MSO are the same thing. TOYOTA call it MCO. It took me about 2 weeks to obtain the MCO because my van was transfered from another dealership.

2. For TOYOTA vehicles, Recall Clearance Letter can be obtained from TOYOTA manufacturer at 1-800-331-4331. I think it is similar for other manufacturers.

3. If you don't claim your vehicle for exportation at the US border, the vehicle is not legally exported. You may have troubles when you drive it back to US some time later. The Canadian Border Officers usually don't care if you have claimed it for exportation at The US Border and will let you import the vehicle as long as it meets with Canadian importation requirements. So, my advise is that please claim your vehicle for exportation at the US Border. It does not cost you anything and it is a very easy process!

4. Call your current insurance company to add your will-be-imported US vehicle to your current policy. But do this at the last stage when you are for sure you will buy the car. Otherwise, you may have a penalty to cancell the insurance. My insurance company did not give me a temporary insurance. So, I had to take a risk for a penalty if I could not import my van for some reasons. I don't think any US companies will offer a temporary insurance with an aceptatble premium.

Thank you vary much.
 
US Alexandria Bay: Vehicle Exports, 0800-1600 hrs. Mon.-Fri., call 315-482-2261.

I don't have Canada side contact inf. You don't need to contact them. They open 24/7.

请问CCT,在加拿大方进关时交GST 和一系列的手续应在哪里办?有特别的“VEHICLE IMPORT” 办公室吗?多谢。
 
有些问题想问一下大家,我想买LEXUS,不知道是不是和丰田一样不卖给我呢?要是不卖给我,可不可以让我的朋友先买了,然后在转手给我.这样的话就算是二手车了吗!是不是价钱也可以相应的自己往下调一些.过关的手续是不是一样,还有不知道保修会不会跟到加拿大.谢谢

Yes, it will become used car if you get it from your friend. You could delare lower value, but it must be reasonable and let custom officer trust the number. You need to sign a bill of sale between you and your friend, and you'd better keep the original sales contract, in case there's a dispute. Otherwise, the custom officer could apply the Canadian market value to calculate tax.

You have to send the signed title to US board 72 hours before.

The warrenty depends on the policy of the maker. You'd better contact the customer relationship department of the maker.
 
请问CCT,在加拿大方进关时交GST 和一系列的手续应在哪里办?有特别的“VEHICLE IMPORT” 办公室吗?多谢。

When you across the broader, delare to the officer you bought the vehicle from the States. the officer will tell you to go to which room or window for the delaration.
 
When you across the broad, delare to the officer you bought the vehicle from the States. the officer will tell to go to which room or window for the delaration.

Exactly. At Alexandria Bay (Canada Side), Just go to the most left lane and tell the border officer that you want to import the vehicle you are driving. He/She will tell you where to go for the importation process. I don't think there is "Vehicle Import" at Office at the Canada Border.
 
请问各位去美国买车用的是哪家保险公司?我因为两年前有过TRAFFIC TICKET,保费涨得太多。有的保险公司不提供美国的保险。大家有么好的保险公司推荐?

If you are asking the insurance after you import and license it, you can buy insurance from any insurance company like other vehicles bougut in Canada. However, for the trip from US to Canada for taking the vehicle back when you import it, it is quite hard to find an insurer, because too much paper work for such a small business (one trip, a few days). When I did it, nobody sold it to me. So I added it to my existing policy and it effected from the Canadian boarder, I drove it to the boarder during the trip within US without insurance actually. It may not be a big issue, since insurance is not forced by law in most states. I took my own risk and drove carefully.
 
HONDA TOYOTA dealer can not sell new car to canadian but they can sell used car to us. So you can buy few monthes old used car and bring it back to canada.
 
If you are asking the insurance after you import and license it, you can buy insurance from any insurance company like other vehicles bougut in Canada. However, for the trip from US to Canada for taking the vehicle back when you import it, it is quite hard to find an insurer, because too much paper work for such a small business (one trip, a few days). When I did it, nobody sold it to me. So I added it to my existing policy and it effected from the Canadian boarder, I drove it to the boarder during the trip within US without insurance actually. It may not be a big issue, since insurance is not forced by law in most states. I took my own risk and drove carefully.

I did the same way by adding my US Sienna to my existing policy. But, my insurance company told me it (insurance) is valid in US. It is something like you drive your car to US and your car is covered.
 
(转帖) IMPORTING A CAR FROM THE USA INTO CANADA FAQ
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1) Why bother importing a car from the US?

- Partially of the recent strength of the Canadian dollar, many models are significantly less expensive in the US than in Canada. Also some models/trims are available in the US but not in Canada.


2) Can any car from the USA be imported?

- No, check the list at Registrar of Imported Vehicles RIV: How to import a U.S made vehicle into Canada. While many cars can be imported without any or with very little modifications, some might need modifications like the addition of Daytime running lights, and/or child tether anchors

3) Do I have to pay duty and taxes?

- There is no duty on cars built in North America. Cars from elsewhere will be charged 6.1% duty. You have to pay GST when you import the vehicle and PST when you register your vehicle as per your Province's regulations.


4) How do I know if I can import a car without paying duty?

- If the VIN starts with a number, it's made in North America and can be imported duty free. If they VIN starts with a letter, it's made elsewhere in the world and you will be charged 6.1% duty.


5) IS this only for new cars?

- Any car that can be imported (check point #1) can be imported new or used - does not make any difference and the process is the same (other than things like safety checks and clean air checks which really have nothing to do with importing the car).


6) Will the new car warranty be valid in Canada?

- This varies by manufacturer and you should contact the one for the car you wish to import. Some manufacturers (e.g. Subaru, Toyota) will honor the warranty, others will honor the warranty but under a few conditions (e.g. Nissan), while others void the warranty if the car is not registered in the US first (e.g. Honda)


7) Do I need a US address?

- No, but some dealerships (e.g. Toyota, particularly those near the Canadian border) may not want to sell you a car if you don't register it in the US first. In general dealerships very close to the Canadian border may not be as willing (because of pressure from the manufacturer) to sell to Canadians and you may have to travel further South.


8) I have a friend / relative / whatever with an address in the US, can I or they buy the car in the US and register it there before importing it to Canada?

- Yes but you may be charged sales taxes in the US and in Canada if you do that. Different states have different tax rates (and some none) so it may be possible to do it there. It has been confirmed that Canadian buyers pay NO sales tax in certain states like New York but are charged sales tax in Michigan. Also, there are certain conditions under which Customs Canada will allow you to import the car without paying taxes but this is only for those who are out of Canada for extended periods of time.


9) Can I get financing for a car purchased in the US?

- You cannot get financing through the dealership or manufacturer. You may be able to get a car loan from your bank but probably only once the vehicle is imported into Canada. Some Canadian banks are now offering US loans.


10) Can anyone do this for me?

- There are importers / brokers that will handle shipping and importing however they do charge a significant amount. Individuals can do it for themselve for the cost of a few hours time and the $200 RIV fee.


11) Are there any drawbacks from having a US car?

- Generally no. There are some inconveniences such as having an odometer in miles rather than kilometers and having the 'principal' display (outer ring) in the speedometer in MPH rather than KPH. It may be more difficult to resell an 'US' vehicle and you may get less for it. Dealer supplied bonuses (e.g. free oil changes for the first year) are usually not valid in Canada. Some automatic climate control and computer data information can also be in Imperial measurements. Some vehicles can easily switch between Imperial and Metric measurements while others cannot.


12) What should I pay for my car? What's fair? How to I compare?

This is a complicated question but if you're reading this you have the most valuable tool available to you. It's called THE INTERNET. Unlike Canada, the US readily promotes competition. While most manufacturers indicate a MSRP (Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price) most automobiles in the US are sold based on "invoice" pricing. This is closer to the true value of the car. This information is readily available on the Internet. The theory behind this is to ensure that a dealer in Iowa can sell a car for roughly the same price as one in LA. Unfortunately the fact of the matter is that large volume dealers also get additional discounts and incentives. Some could get free transmissions or moonroofs from the manufacturer. The dealer may choose to charge you for those items and keep it as straight profit. Others will discount the price accordingly.

In very rare cases, the car is so popular it exceeds demand. In those cases, the consumer might have to pay above invoice. If you can't get a car for US invoice price, shop around. Call dealers in other cities or states to get an idea what others are paying. Excellent sites like Edmunds.com have forums where "prices paid" are discussed.

Many of the RFDers compare prices the following way: Use US "invoice pricing" as the starting point. Add the exchange and a thousand or so dollars. Offer that to the Canadian dealer. NEVER compare US MSRP to Canadian MSRP unless you're researching prices. There is no doubt there is a price disparity in Canada. Many Canadian dealers will use all kinds of arguments to mislead you. There is a Canadian automotive analyst who is an expert at deception. They'll point out that model and trim levels aren't the same so true comparisons are not possible and that no real price disparity exists. Unfortunately for him, with the Internet at your disposal, you can compare options to options. This price disparity is huge and is now the subject of a $2 Billion dollar lawsuit filed in Canada in September, 2007.

Don't let taxation get into the discussion. You're paying taxes regardless of where you buy. Lucky for the Canadian buyer purchasing down south, your overall tax bill will be significantly reduced since the initial cost of the car is lower.

You'll be told that the cars aren't compliant and that "thousands" need to be spent to conform your car. Leave that the Transport Canada to decide. RIV.ca will tell you what needs to be done to the car. In the vast majority of cases, very little or in the case of many cars like the Subaru Outback NOTHING is required.

Dealers will tell you the Canadian market is small and can't support the US pricing. Another good one is that the cars in Canada are competitively priced in the market. That's the whole point of the lawsuit. There appears to be some collusion going on. There is an allegation that many Canadian car manufacturers have agreed to keep their prices artificially high.
 
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